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Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« on: August 19, 2013, 06:24:05 AM »
I keep seeing Papo's original Tyrannosaurus figure appearing other places as "stock" dinosaurs. Here are some examples I found:


I know it doesn't seem like much at the moment, but I swear I saw two kids' books at museums that had the Papo figure on their cover, but after spending fifteen minutes searching on Amazon I gave up. Does anyone else know of any products that use Papo's figure as a "stock" image?


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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 06:36:49 AM »


This whole book uses Papo dinosaurs, such as the Spinosaurus. A bit misleading for a book that's supposed to be educational :-\



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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 06:59:20 AM »
You bet! I've seen it on pens, books, posters - all kinds of things. Papo dinosaurs are often photographed for use as stock photos. Take a look here.

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 08:21:49 AM »
Yes, they are pretty common.


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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 02:42:14 PM »
I saw a billboard like this on the way to Atlantic City once.

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 05:38:01 PM »
The Papo green standing T. rex (55001) and the Papo Allosaurus seem to be everywhere, the images are widely available as "stock" dinosaur images, I suppose this goes some way to explain the sensitivity Papo have towards their images being used without their Papo logo.  We even saw an image of what looked like the Papo Running T. rex in an article published in the Economist.

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 05:59:57 PM »
I believe the reason behind this is that Papo dinosaurs look much like real living dinos.
So they look better than illustrations and better than other models. I`m not talking about accuracy, i`m talking about organic look.
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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 06:06:55 PM »
We even saw an image of what looked like the Papo Running T. rex in an article published in the Economist.

Ahah, you mean this?


It appears to be a composite of the running Papo rex with the digital model by Raul Lunia:


Also, the arms look like they may be made from photos of some kind of agamid lizard.

I believe the reason behind this is that Papo dinosaurs look much like real living dinos.
So they look better than illustrations and better than other models. I`m not talking about accuracy, i`m talking about organic look.

That's probably so, but it's distressing. Papo's inaccuracy issues aren't really a problem when they're just toys - but it's a shame to see them used in lieu of proper life reconstructions for kids' books and the like.

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 06:54:12 PM »
Is it actually legal to take a figure from Papo and use it to sell your own product? Isn't that stealing?

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2013, 06:57:24 PM »


I'm pretty sure this is one.

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2013, 08:00:26 PM »
The Papo green standing T. rex (55001) and the Papo Allosaurus seem to be everywhere, the images are widely available as "stock" dinosaur images, I suppose this goes some way to explain the sensitivity Papo have towards their images being used without their Papo logo.  We even saw an image of what looked like the Papo Running T. rex in an article published in the Economist.
Papo can hardly say anything about the use of some of their toys being used in images,especially the first T. rex they released.It's an exact copy of the one in the Jurassic Park movies,even down to the wrinkles and scales on it's body...Did Papo pay anything to Stan Winston Studios? ;)
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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2013, 09:58:10 PM »
The Papo green standing T. rex (55001) and the Papo Allosaurus seem to be everywhere, the images are widely available as "stock" dinosaur images, I suppose this goes some way to explain the sensitivity Papo have towards their images being used without their Papo logo.  We even saw an image of what looked like the Papo Running T. rex in an article published in the Economist.
Papo can hardly say anything about the use of some of their toys being used in images,especially the first T. rex they released.It's an exact copy of the one in the Jurassic Park movies,even down to the wrinkles and scales on it's body...Did Papo pay anything to Stan Winston Studios? ;)

No it's not.





Also, Papo are not using the Jurassic Park trademark for their toys, nor do they claim that their toys are official JP replicas. They can get away with it.

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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2013, 11:27:57 PM »
The Papo green standing T. rex (55001) and the Papo Allosaurus seem to be everywhere, the images are widely available as "stock" dinosaur images, I suppose this goes some way to explain the sensitivity Papo have towards their images being used without their Papo logo.  We even saw an image of what looked like the Papo Running T. rex in an article published in the Economist.
Papo can hardly say anything about the use of some of their toys being used in images,especially the first T. rex they released.It's an exact copy of the one in the Jurassic Park movies,even down to the wrinkles and scales on it's body...Did Papo pay anything to Stan Winston Studios? ;)

No it's not.





Also, Papo are not using the Jurassic Park trademark for their toys, nor do they claim that their toys are official JP replicas. They can get away with it.
Actually,my point was that those using the images of Papo's toys are doing to Papo what Papo did to Stan Winston Studios. :)
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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2013, 12:31:40 AM »
Papo dinosaurs are common on all sorts of things.   Like this puzzle i found at Wal-Mart



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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 12:37:39 AM »
Papo dinosaurs are common on all sorts of things.   Like this puzzle i found at Wal-Mart


They seem to have the Allosaurus and Spinosaurus confused for one another. :)
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2013, 01:01:41 AM »
Yes they do.  Dr. Admin said he wouldn't trust the most trusted name in learning because of it.
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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 02:30:27 AM »
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Actually,my point was that those using the images of Papo's toys are doing to Papo what Papo did to Stan Winston Studios
Maybe, kinda. But Papo are not directly ripping off JP's images, they are only taking inspiration from their designs. The images posted in this thread are directly stolen from Papo's stock images. Big difference.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2013, 05:23:56 AM »
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Actually,my point was that those using the images of Papo's toys are doing to Papo what Papo did to Stan Winston Studios
Maybe, kinda. But Papo are not directly ripping off JP's images, they are only taking inspiration from their designs. The images posted in this thread are directly stolen from Papo's stock images. Big difference.
When you think about it,Papo has a copyright on all the designs and images they have of their products so I would guess the images were used with permission. :)
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Re: Papo Tyrannosaurus - The stock dinosaur
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2013, 07:59:44 AM »
We think a number of the Papo images are actually out of copyright.  It is a subject we have never raised with Papo, but the green standing T. rex and the Papo Allosaurus images are ubiquitous and as we have worked on various projects including our "dino van" we were offered imagery of the Papo Dinosaurs mentioned above for use in the design.  We took a number of pictures of the Papo dinosaurs being used and we wrote a blog article about the process here: Dino Van becomes a reality].  When we told Papo management what we were doing they were delighted, so they did not have an issue with the images.  I think with most design companies if you ask them for dinosaur images to be used for any marketing purposes, it is a fairly safe bet to expect to see Papo imagery come up in the examples offered.   We have not seen any of the more recent Papo models used in this way, maybe others have.