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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2015, 10:54:45 PM »
And some books relevant to this forum:


I think most of the titles are legible, but to the left of The Cambrian Explosion is Lance Grande's monograph on the paleontology of the Green River Formation, and to the left of Dixon's breezy encyclopedia is a Grande & Bemis review on fossil and extant paddlefishes.


Moving to the right from Cenozoic Mammals of Africa, that's Long et al., Prehistoric Mammals of Australia and New Guinea, the Carvalho et al. monograph on Green River stingrays, and a Giarla et al. revision of Thylamys, a genus of mouse opossums. I did some sequencing work for the latter study when I was in college.


A few other great books. Without Darwin or someone like him, paleontology would make a lot less sense.
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2015, 01:52:17 PM »
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"Kitadaniryu" 2. I don't usually collect nomina nuda, but I stumbled across these for a song and decided to keep them. They're pretty good stand-ins for most dromaeosaurs, and have reasonably complete wings, unlike the Kaiyodo Deinonychus.
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2015, 01:39:07 PM »
Some Yowie fishes:


Arandaspis, Rolfosteus, Mcnamaraspis (or in Yowie speak, Arandaspis, Gogo tube-nosed fish, and Macnamaraspis [sic]).


Strepsodus and Umoonasaurus (according to Cadbury, Ducabrook rhizodont and Eric the pliosaur).
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2015, 01:56:06 PM »
The Triassic in ~1:40 scale. There isn't much available, to be honest!



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Kaiyodo Tanystropheus. Closer to 1:50

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Schleich Desmatosuchus. Still the best version of this animal out there, to my mind. Closer to 1:35

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Carnegie Plateosaurus

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Safari Postosuchus (crocs toob). The other Safari Postosuchus (at a larger scale) is nicer of course, but this one is remarkably good for its size (about 1:50)

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When it comes to Herrerasaurus figures, beggars can't be choosers. This CollectA effort is closer to 1:30

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Kaiyodo Lystrosaurus
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2015, 02:09:37 PM »
A few more aquatic things. Most of these are reasonably close to 1:40 scale.


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Schleich Shonisaurus. Has a very pleasant heft, but also a dorsal fin which the real animal probably didn't have. And the face! Looks a little like a Muppet version of a bird. I like this figure quite a bit regardless. From the Replica-saurus line, so nominally 1:40

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Kaiyodo Plesiosaurus and skeleton. Beautifully detailed at 1:35-1:40.

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Safari Orthacanthus (sharks toob). From the side, looks pretty good!


But in ventral view you can see that there are FOUR sets of paired fins! (There should only be two, the ventral fins toward the back should be single and on the midline.) Other than that, a reasonable facsimile of an Orthacanthus. ~1:30

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Safari Helicoprion (sharks toob). As Sean has pointed out, probably a holocephalan, but I am more than willing to allow Safari some systematic leeway if they're going to make cool animals like this. 1:30-1:35.

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Safari Nothosaurus. One of my favorite toob figures, from the prehistoric sealife toob. ~1:35

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Kaiyodo Metriorhynchus. A gem at 1:30-1:35

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Safari Dunkleosteus. I think this is meant to represent D. terrelli; if so, this is about 1:45 scale. Great figure; I love the bronze finish.

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Safari Dakosaurus (crocs toob). About 1:50; this is an animal that deserves a full-sized figure from CollectA or Safari.

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Safari Elasmosaurus. Slightly unfortunate paint app on the head, but probably the most biologically reasonable posture out of any Elasmosaurus figure. ~1:50.

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Yowie Umoonasaurus ("Eric the pliosaur"). Looking at this photo, I might have assembled him with his forelegs upside-down. Oops.
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2015, 03:26:07 PM »
To be fair, I'm not sure how certain the science was on the Schleich Shonisaurus at the time; but given their track record, they probably wouldn't have cared anyway. One thing si for sure, that is not a kid's toy--it's more like a PVC club!

I do know that when the Sfari sharks were made, the various whorl tooths like Helicoprion and Sarcoprion were assumed to be sharks, so that one can be excused from that angle; to be fair, I don't think the Prehistoric Elasmobranchs toob would have the same market appeal.

And I remember thinking something was off with the Orthacanthus. From what I can guess, I think the sculptor of this one (and the Xenacanthus, if I'm not mistaken) mistook the weird anal fin structure for paired fins.

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2015, 06:06:18 PM »
To be fair, I'm not sure how certain the science was on the Schleich Shonisaurus at the time; but given their track record, they probably wouldn't have cared anyway. One thing si for sure, that is not a kid's toy--it's more like a PVC club!

I do know that when the Sfari sharks were made, the various whorl tooths like Helicoprion and Sarcoprion were assumed to be sharks, so that one can be excused from that angle; to be fair, I don't think the Prehistoric Elasmobranchs toob would have the same market appeal.

And I remember thinking something was off with the Orthacanthus. From what I can guess, I think the sculptor of this one (and the Xenacanthus, if I'm not mistaken) mistook the weird anal fin structure for paired fins.

It does work quite well as a club! And yeah, the dorsal is totally forgivable.

If I were safari, and I were making a toob of "prehistoric sharks," I would definitely be willing to include known holocephalans. I might even sneak in an acanthodian. Definitely not meant as a criticism of their choices--having any ancient chondrichthyans at all is pretty sweet.

HOWEVER, the fins--the Xenacanthus is guilty of this, too, you're right. It's true that looking at a skeletal diagram doesn't necessarily tell you what's in pairs and what's single, but maybe ask any paleontologist or zoologist, who can tell you that vertebrates never have more than two pairs of limblike elements. But midline fins get multiplied all over the place (see acanthodians, bichirs, cod, and that's just the first three letters of the alphabet...).
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2015, 06:37:20 PM »
To be fair, I'm not sure how certain the science was on the Schleich Shonisaurus at the time; but given their track record, they probably wouldn't have cared anyway. One thing si for sure, that is not a kid's toy--it's more like a PVC club!

I do know that when the Sfari sharks were made, the various whorl tooths like Helicoprion and Sarcoprion were assumed to be sharks, so that one can be excused from that angle; to be fair, I don't think the Prehistoric Elasmobranchs toob would have the same market appeal.

And I remember thinking something was off with the Orthacanthus. From what I can guess, I think the sculptor of this one (and the Xenacanthus, if I'm not mistaken) mistook the weird anal fin structure for paired fins.

If I were safari, and I were making a toob of "prehistoric sharks," I would definitely be willing to include known holocephalans. I might even sneak in an acanthodian. Definitely not meant as a criticism of their choices--having any ancient chondrichthyans at all is pretty sweet.

HOWEVER, the fins--the Xenacanthus is guilty of this, too, you're right. It's true that looking at a skeletal diagram doesn't necessarily tell you what's in pairs and what's single, but maybe ask any paleontologist or zoologist, who can tell you that vertebrates never have more than two pairs of limblike elements. But midline fins get multiplied all over the place (see acanthodians, bichirs, cod, and that's just the first three letters of the alphabet...).

And yet I tried to get a petalodont or iniopterygian in there, with no luck.

Also, if there were more than 3 bichir models out there, I would be more concerned about their accuracy! But so far, no luck. OTH, if you know of others I will need them )other than the crazy expensive Japanese designer models).

Or acanthodians for that matter--I only have a couple, all with single rows of ventral spines. Although I thought that those spines should be paired?

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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2015, 07:32:33 PM »

Also, if there were more than 3 bichir models out there, I would be more concerned about their accuracy! But so far, no luck. OTH, if you know of others I will need them )other than the crazy expensive Japanese designer models).

Or acanthodians for that matter--I only have a couple, all with single rows of ventral spines. Although I thought that those spines should be paired?

I don't know any bichirs other than the Colorata, which I don't have yet. I have a really nice drawing that one of my friends did for me, though.

I think that acanthodians varied (as one expects from a grade rather than a clade), but prepelvic spines were paired, yes. And they had scaly finlets, but there weren't any limb elements associated with them. I suppose at the scale of a toob figure limblike fins and non-limblike fins look pretty similar.
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2015, 09:56:35 PM »

Also, if there were more than 3 bichir models out there, I would be more concerned about their accuracy! But so far, no luck. OTH, if you know of others I will need them )other than the crazy expensive Japanese designer models).

Or acanthodians for that matter--I only have a couple, all with single rows of ventral spines. Although I thought that those spines should be paired?

I don't know any bichirs other than the Colorata, which I don't have yet. I have a really nice drawing that one of my friends did for me, though.

I think that acanthodians varied (as one expects from a grade rather than a clade), but prepelvic spines were paired, yes. And they had scaly finlets, but there weren't any limb elements associated with them. I suppose at the scale of a toob figure limblike fins and non-limblike fins look pretty similar.

There are also a normal and albino endlicheri in the Kaiyodo pets series 5. And...that's it. For now...!

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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2015, 11:00:51 PM »
There are also a normal and albino endlicheri in the Kaiyodo pets series 5. And...that's it. For now...!

Ooh, good to know! Thanks!
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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2015, 01:41:13 AM »
There are also a normal and albino endlicheri in the Kaiyodo pets series 5. And...that's it. For now...!

Ooh, good to know! Thanks!

I found my photos:


And to be complete (sadly):


These are my favorite fish of all time. It will be nice to see at least one different species--I think P. endlicheri is especially popular in Japan, so it's the one that gets made.

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2015, 02:03:18 PM »

I found my photos:

Those look pretty good! Thanks for sharing the photos!
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2015, 02:09:18 PM »
Just in from Everything Dinosaur:
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Toyway Megalosaurus. Has its flaws, but is a step up from the CollectA version. And I couldn't be without a Megalosaurus.

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Invicta Cetiosaurus. Also a CollectA replacement.

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Yowie Siderops. Who else would make a Jurassic temnospondyl?
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2015, 12:29:24 AM »

I found my photos:

Those look pretty good! Thanks for sharing the photos!

No problem. But you shouldn't have cropped them--twice the bichir goodness!


Yowie Siderops. Who else would make a Jurassic temnospondyl?

Bullyland got close with their Mastodonsaurus (I suppose Starlux is in there too, but it's not as good).
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2015, 04:49:58 AM »
That Shonisaurus is a cutie-pie. :)
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2015, 06:01:15 AM »
No problem. But you shouldn't have cropped them--twice the bichir goodness!

Mea culpa ;)

Bullyland got close with their Mastodonsaurus (I suppose Starlux is in there too, but it's not as good).

Maybe I'll photograph that one next!

That Shonisaurus is a cutie-pie. :)

Just wanna squeeze its little cheeks, right?
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2015, 01:03:27 PM »
There are also a normal and albino endlicheri in the Kaiyodo pets series 5. And...that's it. For now...!

Ooh, good to know! Thanks!

I found my photos:


And to be complete (sadly):


These are my favorite fish of all time. It will be nice to see at least one different species--I think P. endlicheri is especially popular in Japan, so it's the one that gets made.

Wow nice model i have that fish few years ago in indonesia its called ikan naga or dragon fish.

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Re: Halichoeres's toy fishes (mostly sarcopterygians)
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2015, 01:50:48 PM »
There are also a normal and albino endlicheri in the Kaiyodo pets series 5. And...that's it. For now...!

Ooh, good to know! Thanks!

I found my photos:


And to be complete (sadly):


These are my favorite fish of all time. It will be nice to see at least one different species--I think P. endlicheri is especially popular in Japan, so it's the one that gets made.

Wow nice model i have that fish few years ago in indonesia its called ikan naga or dragon fish.

That's a good name for them. I have kept several different species (including the pictured one) over the course of many years. Easily my favorite fish. And they live for such a long time...

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2015, 02:49:58 PM »


That's a good name for them. I have kept several different species (including the pictured one) over the course of many years. Easily my favorite fish. And they live for such a long time...

That is a good name for them! I have a soft spot for them also--I was going to do my dissertation on them, but then all the countries I would have gone for field work had revolutions or civil wars. Probably the most trivial effect of those events, but it definitely changed my career trajectory.
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