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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1100 on: October 17, 2018, 11:47:34 AM »
Most of the dinosaurs were shown as parts of larger populations by the time of Jurassic World. We don't know exactly how many of each species were taken off the island via the events of FK, but there were definitely multiples. It looked like only a few of each were shown at the mansion, so probably not enough to repopulate quickly, but the movie does such a BAD job of actually explaining any of that... who really knows?

I agree. And predator to prey ratios are pretty low, so this is why we do not see many predators of the same species in the same scene. The only species (really I should be saying "genus" or genera, but oh well) that we pretty know there were only one of are the Tyrannosaurus (evidenced throughout the first JP and two JW films as "the" T.rex), Velociraptor (-ish) and the Mosasaurus.

There were at least three Allosaurus: the one that chased the Gyrosphere & hit with a volcanic missile (presumably dead), and at least two that were captured & brought to the mansion. Of those two, one was auctioned off (seen at the end of film transported in a truck) and the other released into the wild (seen inside the mansion's lab before the doors were opened by Maisie).

Baryonyx: one that presumably trapped in the bunker after Claire & Franklin escaped it (I don't see how it was able to get back through the lava, but stranger things have happened) and the one that was captured and eventually auctioned off (I don't remember seeing one escaping the lab into the wild, but I could have missed it).

Carnotaurus: one or possibly two, I guess it depends if the one that first attacks the Gyrosphere & attacked by Rexy was the same one that was captured. I don't remember seeing a Carno auctioned off either, but there was one that escapes (obviously, "sharing" Mills with Rexy)

Of the herbivores, I think its safe to assume there was possibly two (or three) of each, except maybe the Apatosaurus. I definitely remember seeing multiple Triceratops, Ankylosaurus, Stegosaurus, Gallimimus & Parasaurolophus exiting the lab upon release.

The burning question though, is: what about little Dilophosaurus?!?! Did any of those get captured? Will we ever see another Dilo again?

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1101 on: October 17, 2018, 06:42:42 PM »
I wouldn't worry, because Wu's DNA collection including many of the extinct dinosaurs, I think I heard somewhere.

Wasn't there something about Brachiosaurus being included on the auction screen or something? So they must be alive somewhere outside the mansion.

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1102 on: October 25, 2018, 11:39:10 PM »
A mystery resolved, the skull of Lockwood manor is an Agujaceratops

Source, JP wiki: http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Agujaceratops
But still, not good enough match up and its too big. ::)
Seriously, why they could just use a regular Triceratops skull and only modify slightly the horns so they point a little bit more upwards for the Indoraptor to be impaled by them?
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1103 on: October 27, 2018, 12:16:02 PM »

Seriously, why they could just use a regular Triceratops skull and only modify slightly the horns so they point a little bit more upwards for the Indoraptor to be impaled by them?

Because the Indoraptor is so big!
Don't forget there's a scene where it stands on that skull.

I mean, I know Triceratops had a huge skull, but still.....
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1104 on: October 27, 2018, 01:19:14 PM »

Seriously, why they could just use a regular Triceratops skull and only modify slightly the horns so they point a little bit more upwards for the Indoraptor to be impaled by them?

Because the Indoraptor is so big!
Don't forget there's a scene where it stands on that skull.

I mean, I know Triceratops had a huge skull, but still.....

Agujaceratops doesn't even have a skull bigger than Triceratops:


I know this is the Jurassic World franchise and that we canīt look into accuracy with their dinosaurs, but seeing that made up skull in a hall full of accurate skeletons is kinda weird.
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1105 on: October 27, 2018, 04:44:46 PM »
Yeah, I see what you mean.

Let's just say it was a mutant one  ;)

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1106 on: October 27, 2018, 07:35:26 PM »
It isn't just the size that is questionable. For example, Agujaceratops has openings in its frill but the skull in the movie is solid, and the epiparietals (frill spines) are also completely different.


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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1107 on: October 27, 2018, 10:46:11 PM »
Earlier on the label for that ceratopsian skull said Triceratops, it was later changed to say Agujaceratops, according to this: https://twitter.com/chrislikesdinos/status/1042899788218417162

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1108 on: October 27, 2018, 11:24:26 PM »
Earlier on the label for that ceratopsian skull said Triceratops, it was later changed to say Agujaceratops, according to this: https://twitter.com/chrislikesdinos/status/1042899788218417162

They cold have avoided all this trouble by using ac actual ceratopsian skull. A super sized but accurate Triceratops skull would have been better. I'm fine with inaccurate dinosaurs and made up dinosaurs that are identified as such, but having made up bones for actual dinosaurs feels wrong.
Or, they could have used Eotriceratops:

Its huge, imposing and itīs horns point upward enough.

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1109 on: October 28, 2018, 01:21:17 AM »
@MLMjp, as far as I'm aware, it's not known what the actual shape of the brow horns is for Eotriceratops due to incomplete preservation, as can be seen here: https://www.deviantart.com/eofauna/art/Eotriceratops-vs-Triceratops-341153326

To me, inaccurate dinosaur bones are no different to inaccurate living dinosaurs, particularly since some of the inaccuracies mean that in the JP/JW film series there have been living dinosaurs that have inaccurate bones. :P
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1110 on: November 19, 2018, 07:48:33 PM »
I...I don't have any words.


Ok, now I'm really curious what @EmperorDinobot thinks about the movie. ;D

In hindsight, I may have posted a strong opinion in an older post against bashing this movie/series.  I hope that no one in the forum thinks I'm against posting individual misgivings about JP/JW.  That wasn't my intention (I'm also not assuming I have any influence on what people post  O:-) )


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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1111 on: November 24, 2018, 06:44:58 AM »
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1112 on: January 14, 2019, 11:34:38 PM »
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1113 on: January 29, 2019, 04:53:59 AM »
If this has been shared before, I apologize for missing it. If not, well then... So there's been some official confirmation on the dinosaurs seen in the Lockwood Manor. They were intended to be statues after all and not taxidermied specimens, and the EW magazine was incorrect about this (not surprisingly considering some other things such as the size chart within it).

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1114 on: January 29, 2019, 07:19:21 AM »
Honestly if they just called it a Stegoceratops, no one would complain.

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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1115 on: February 06, 2019, 03:22:23 PM »
Honestly if they just called it a Stegoceratops, no one would complain.

Yeah, they would, because Stegoceratops is based on Nasutoceratops, not one with three horns! It just has two forward-facing bull horns as a result. You can't
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
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Re: JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM
« Reply #1117 on: November 30, 2019, 12:31:28 PM »
I guess this belongs here.


More [canon] media tackling the fallout from JW:Fallen Kingdom (aside from "Battle at Big Rock")