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Top 10 Spinosauridae toys [Complete]

Started by Killekor, November 06, 2016, 05:58:27 PM

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Top ten Spinosauridae toys

Spinosaurus (procon/collectA)
Deluxe Spinosaurus (original version) (procon/collectA)
Baby spinosaurus (collectA)
Baryonyx (collectA)
Spinosaurus walking (collectA)
Spinosaurus swimming (collectA)
Deluxe Spinosaurus (2015 version)(collectA)
Deluxe Baryonyx (collectA)
Irritator (collectA)
Ichthyovenator (collectA)
Mini spinosaurus (collectA)
Mini Baryonyx (collectA)
Mini spinosaurus (Schleich)
Mini spinosaurus version 2 (Schleich)
Mini suchomimus (Schleich)
Baryonyx (Schleich)
Spinosaurus (replicasaurus by Schleich)
Spinosaurus (World of history 2008 by Schleich)
 Spinosaurus (World of history 2015 by Schleich)
Carnegie spinosaurus 1992
Carnegie spinosaurus 2009
Carnegie Baryonyx 2008
Spinosaurus (wild Safari 2001)
Suchomimus (wild Safari 2001)
Suchomimus (wild Safari 2014)
Baby spinosaurus (wild safari and Dino babies toob)
Spinosaurus (toobs by Safari)
Baryonyx (toobs by Safari)
Spinosaurus (great dinos by safari)
Baryonyx (Natural history museum, Invicta)
Suchomimus (Dinotales by Kayodo)
Spinosaurus (dinotales series 5 by Kayodo)
Suchomimus (geoworld)
Baryonyx (geoworld)
Articulated Baryonyx (geoworld)
Spinosaurus (geoworld)
Spinosaurus (Papo)
Baryonyx (Papo)
Mini spinosaurus (Papo)
Baby spinosaurus (PNSO)
Spinosaurus (fame master)
Spinosaurus (Jurassic world bashers and blisters)
Spinosaurus (Kabaya)
Spinosaurus (Soft model by favorite co.ltd)
Spinosaurus (soft model series 2 by favorite co.ltd)
Electronic Baryonyx (Jurassic park)
Spinosaurus (Jurassic park, the lost world)
Baryonyx (Jurassic park, the lost World Series 2)
Spinosaurus (Jurassic park 3)
Poseable spinosaurus (Jurassic park 3)
Aqua spinosaurus (Jurassic park 3)
Animatronic spinosaurus (Jurassic park 3)
Remote control spinosaurus (Jurassic park 3)
Spinosaurus (tsukuda hobby collection)
Spinosaurus (Expo 2016 by kayodo)
Spinosaurus (bullyland 2012)
Spinosaurus (furuta)
Spinosaurus (mojo fun)
Baryonyx (natural history museum, Toyway)
Spinosaurus (Takara tomy)
Updated Spinosaurus (Colorata Cretaceous Volume 2 box)
Spinosaurus (Colorata Cretaceous Volume 2 box)
Spinosaurus (Dinomike collection and PaleoCreatures collection)
Spinosaurus (Vitamin-Imagination, on Shapeways)

DinoToyForum

Also, should distinguish properly between

Baryonx, Natural History Museum, Invicta

and

Baryonyx, Natural History Museum, Toyway

...because I nearly wrongly selected the NHM one thinking it was the Invicta one.



Killekor

Quote from: dinotoyforum on November 13, 2016, 04:18:48 PM
There also two Deluxe CollectA Spinosaurus in the list. If these are different the version should be listed.

One is of Procon/collectA, the other is only of collectA.

Predasaurskillekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

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DinoToyForum

#22
Quote from: Predasaurskillekor on November 13, 2016, 04:57:36 PM
Quote from: dinotoyforum on November 13, 2016, 04:18:48 PM
There also two Deluxe CollectA Spinosaurus in the list. If these are different the version should be listed.

One is of Procon/collectA, the other is only of collectA.

Predasaurskillekor

It is confusing, so, should add version details to avoid confusion.


suspsy

IMG_0123 by Suspsy Three, on Flickr

Killekor

When I have created the poll, I have selected the option "the users can change their vote" but i can't. I don't know why.
I want to add the Expo 2016 spinosaurus.

Thanks

Predasaurskillekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438

BlueKrono

I see the Dinostoreus Spino with gar has been deleted, which is fair if this poll is only going to be plastic toys. I would also give a shout out to my favorite Spino sculpt - Allen and Diane Debus's Hell Creek Creations Spinosaurus vs. Plesiosaurus. But in the realm of toys I was disappointed not to see another Spino with fish I like - the Takara version. Since my Dinostoreus vote was eliminated (and I wasn't the only one), perhaps the Takara one could be added?

A couple highlights from my selections: the 1992 Carnegie Spinosaurus was the first dinosaur figure I fell in love with, way back in preschool when another kid brought it for show-and-tell. I eventually acquired my own, but while playing with it outside on my driveway in the winter I dropped it. The frozen plastic shattered, and I was devastated. Of course I got another eventually, but that was certainly a memorable moment. I also got the demonic repaint they released on that figure, and he was his evil twin.  :P

And of course my favorite true dinosaur Ichthyovenator, made only by Collecta. I thought this dino was super cool when I learned of its existence while perusing spinosaur taxonomies, and I was thrilled when I found out that a company already made a figure of this recently discovered species. Spinosaurus had been my favorite dinosaur since I was a toddler, but the theropod with two spines surpassed it when I discovered it.
We are accustomed to look upon the shackled form of a conquered monster, but there - there you could look at a thing monstrous and free." - King Kong, 2005

Killekor

Quote from: BlueKrono on November 15, 2016, 06:07:49 PM
I see the Dinostoreus Spino with gar has been deleted, which is fair if this poll is only going to be plastic toys. I would also give a shout out to my favorite Spino sculpt - Allen and Diane Debus's Hell Creek Creations Spinosaurus vs. Plesiosaurus. But in the realm of toys I was disappointed not to see another Spino with fish I like - the Takara version. Since my Dinostoreus vote was eliminated (and I wasn't the only one), perhaps the Takara one could be added?

A couple highlights from my selections: the 1992 Carnegie Spinosaurus was the first dinosaur figure I fell in love with, way back in preschool when another kid brought it for show-and-tell. I eventually acquired my own, but while playing with it outside on my driveway in the winter I dropped it. The frozen plastic shattered, and I was devastated. Of course I got another eventually, but that was certainly a memorable moment. I also got the demonic repaint they released on that figure, and he was his evil twin.  :P

And of course my favorite true dinosaur Ichthyovenator, made only by Collecta. I thought this dino was super cool when I learned of its existence while perusing spinosaur taxonomies, and I was thrilled when I found out that a company already made a figure of this recently discovered species. Spinosaurus had been my favorite dinosaur since I was a toddler, but the theropod with two spines surpassed it when I discovered it.

Now I add the takara one...

Predasaurskillekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438

Killekor

I have added some photos to the First post, i Will bè finish tomorrow.

Thanks.

Predasaurskillekor.
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438


Killekor

Hey! I have to close the poll?

Predasaurskillekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438

DinoToyForum

No. As per instructions, top 10 polls stay open indefinitely.  C:-)


The Atroxious

The CollectA swimming Spino and the Kaiyodo Dinosaur Expo 2016 Spino are the only spinosaur figures I can stand. All the others really irk me since they don't really hold up scientifically or aesthetically. There seems to be something about spinosaurs that throws most toymakers off.

For what it's worth, I do love Manuel Bejarano's Shapeways Baryonyx model, but that's not on the list, so I didn't vote for it. It's still a far cry from ten figures.

stargatedalek

Quote from: The Atroxious on December 08, 2016, 04:24:41 PM
The CollectA swimming Spino and the Kaiyodo Dinosaur Expo 2016 Spino are the only spinosaur figures I can stand. All the others really irk me since they don't really hold up scientifically or aesthetically. There seems to be something about spinosaurs that throws most toymakers off.

For what it's worth, I do love Manuel Bejarano's Shapeways Baryonyx model, but that's not on the list, so I didn't vote for it. It's still a far cry from ten figures.
The only one I like is Papo's Baryonyx. It has its issues for sure, but it's the only figure to accurately depict these animals true bulk.

The Atroxious

Quote from: stargatedalek on December 08, 2016, 05:14:43 PM
The only one I like is Papo's Baryonyx. It has its issues for sure, but it's the only figure to accurately depict these animals true bulk.

I do like it to some degree, but the paint job and the awkward, uncomfortable-looking pose keep me away from it. The paint job wouldn't be an issue if it was cheaper, but I generally have an aversion to paying $30+ for a toy that I'm going to have to repaint. The pose is more of an issue, since every time I look at it, it makes me think it's going to have really bad leg cramps in a few seconds, and any figure that reminds me of leg cramps loses some of its appeal.

That said, as far as I'm aware, spinosaurids are indeed bulky in terms of sheer mass, though I was always under the impression that they were rather narrow of body and streamlined, rather than thick and wide like the derived tyrannosaurids. The Papo Baryonyx doesn't look particularly streamlined to me, which I think looks fine for the figure, but I always thought that such a build made it less accurate rather than more. Correct me if I'm wrong, since I've never seen actual spinosaurid fossils in person, though I have looked at photos of mounted (more likely than not cast) skeletons of Baryonyx and Suchomimus, which have led me to believe they were usually very gracile in build.

Additionally, the head on the Papo Baryonyx looks more like that of a Spinosaurus than an actual Baryonyx head, which, like the thickset build, isn't really a deal breaker, but it does make it look like a mix-and-match critter rather than a bona fide Baryonyx.

To be fair, I do think the design of the figure is excellent, and the dangerous, imposing look is almost enough for me to want to get it despite my issues with the paint and the pose, but dangerous and imposing doesn't quite make up for reminding me of leg cramps.

stargatedalek

#33
Despite a lot of depictions showing Spinosaurs as lean animals these depictions are highly inaccurate. Remember, most depictions of nearly any given extinct animal won't be accurate. This is especially prominent in the case of Spinosaurs because of even the scientific literature is always comparing them to crocodilians, and depicting any sort of ridge as a thin strip of flesh. While the new Spinosaurus material shows us that since the vertebrae narrow towards the top it probably didn't support a hump, it's not merely unrealistic but almost idiotic to depict it so thin that the bones actually show through.

The only behavioral evidence we have for all three well known Spinosaurs (Spinosaurus, Baryonyx, and Suchomimus) indicates that these animals were either floating along the surface or walking along the bottom. Neither is suited to a lithe animal. The Papo Baryonyx is if anything slightly shrink wrapped, namely around the shoulders and the skull.


I don't understand why everyone is saying it has Spinosaurus' skull. Spinosaurus and Baryonyx already have very similar skulls, the only major difference is the number of teeth (evidently because of the size difference) and that Spinosaurus teeth curl outwards at the tip of the lower jaw. Baryonyx skull is also a lot less complete than that of Spinosaurus, and clearly Papo has reconstructed these missing segments of off Spinosaurus.




I agree about the paint and pose however (it's also lacking the enlarged fourth toe). I wouldn't say the paint is bad per-se so much as extremely minimalistic.

DinoToyForum

Once the poll exceeds about 40 votes, I'll post the results video. So, keep voting :)


The Atroxious



Fair points, and I understand where you're coming from, but lean and gracile are two very different things. Many cetaceans have a gracile appearance, yet they're not particularly lean. Floating along the surface would simply require extensive adipose deposits and/or a high lung volume. Geese have both, yet they retain a gracile appearance. Walking along the bottom wouldn't be particularly difficult with the dense bones we know spinosaurids to have, especially with the weight of large muscles they more than likely would have possessed. Moreover, while I think your argument about aquatic adaptations addresses some oft-overlooked issues, you seem to be referring to very specialized spinosaurids like Spinosaurus itself, which was likely almost exclusively aquatic, while Baryonyx is thought to have been more of a wader than a truly aquatic animal. Baryonyx is thought to be more closely related to Suchomimus than Spinosaurus, and Suchomimus was very gracile. Even if you pile the soft tissue onto these skeletons, they'd still have a long, lithe animal. I think my problem with the Papo Baryonyx is that its whole build looks stocky, with the short torso and broad shoulders, while the skeleton suggests a long torpedo shape:





Even Spinosaurus itself was built like a tube, especially considering how small the pelvis was, and again, if you pile the soft tissue onto the skeleton, it would look like a thicker tube, yes, but still thin and sinuous.





Regarding the head looking more like a Spinosaurus' than a Baryonyx's, for me, it's the flat, shallow premaxilla, combined with the deep mandible and underbite, while Baryonyx skulls show a closer ratio between the height of the upper and lower jaws, in addition to the upward curve present in the premaxilla of Baryonx.


Gwangi

The best Baryonyx is the Invicta. FACT!


Dinomike

I'm honored an pleased to see my figure has made the list as well!
Check out my new Spinosaurus figure: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5099.0

Killekor

Quote from: Dinomike on December 09, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
I'm honored an pleased to see my figure has made the list as well!

Your welcome! I have to Say thanks for do this model.

Killekor

P.S. I have change my username.
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438

Halichoeres

Quote from: Gwangi on December 09, 2016, 06:23:36 PM
The best Baryonyx is the Invicta. FACT!



The inclusion of the fish is almost enough to get me to agree with you! :)
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