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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2019, 03:19:42 AM »
I liked it.  And to everyone "complaining" about the surprise crossbow rescue?  They introduced the concept early on, it's called Chekhov's Gun.  Or crossbow, in this case.

My favorite thing is that, once the prey started fighting back, Allosaurus left.  If it were the raptors from any of the other movies, they would've kept attacking.  Or the Spino from 3.  Rexy probably would've peaced out, but that's cause Rexy's too old for this crap now.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2019, 07:57:01 AM »
The dialog was pretty bad, the fight was disappointing and janky, and the Allosaurus flipped from being too weak to pick up a baby to being strong enough to tear a trailer apart like wet paper. Plus that ending was so silly I was half expecting it to be Grant holding the crossbow, but the JP franchise has a leash around my neck and is walking me across the park because I still kind of loved it.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2019, 08:25:46 AM »
I liked it.  And to everyone "complaining" about the surprise crossbow rescue?  They introduced the concept early on, it's called Chekhov's Gun.  Or crossbow, in this case.

Yep. It's even mentioned that it is a "double crossbow", explaining why she is able to fire the two arrows so fast. 
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2019, 12:03:07 PM »
I liked it.  And to everyone "complaining" about the surprise crossbow rescue?  They introduced the concept early on, it's called Chekhov's Gun.  Or crossbow, in this case.

Yep. It's even mentioned that it is a "double crossbow", explaining why she is able to fire the two arrows so fast.
Why, you're correct.  I missed that the first few times somehow.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2019, 01:46:43 PM »
Well I finally watched it, it was short but really nice, I enjoyed it.
The Allosaurus was really cool!
Also the clips at the end credits were really neat to see.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2019, 04:21:39 PM »
Allosaurus animatronic

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2019, 04:44:26 PM »
Wonder how that would have looked in the film...

They have a hard time nailing the classic Crash McCreery look in the designs for the new films, which is a shame, the dinosaurs look very generic. How about, uh, just hiring him?

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2019, 10:51:12 PM »
Wonder how that would have looked in the film...

They have a hard time nailing the classic Crash McCreery look in the designs for the new films, which is a shame, the dinosaurs look very generic. How about, uh, just hiring him?

Been thinking that too. There's just something really off about the dinosaurs in the JW movies. They lack weight, and have weird heads and eyes.

Look at that allo's eye socket. It's like a cavern with a mountain range around it. It makes no sense.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2019, 11:35:21 PM »
Wonder how that would have looked in the film...

They have a hard time nailing the classic Crash McCreery look in the designs for the new films, which is a shame, the dinosaurs look very generic. How about, uh, just hiring him?

Been thinking that too. There's just something really off about the dinosaurs in the JW movies. They lack weight, and have weird heads and eyes.

Look at that allo's eye socket. It's like a cavern with a mountain range around it. It makes no sense.

The Jw dinosaurs definitely have a different style. I want to say they’re more modern but I don’t know if that’s the right word. But I feel like, for example, if McCreery made that moasaur it wouldn’t be so spiky and crocodilian.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2019, 11:40:34 PM »
Style aside, I think there'd be something really wondrous about seeing that animatronic Allosaurus head in person.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2019, 12:19:23 AM »
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The Jw dinosaurs definitely have a different style. I want to say they’re more modern but I don’t know if that’s the right word. But I feel like, for example, if McCreery made that moasaur it wouldn’t be so spiky and crocodilian.
Hmmm, "modern" probably wouldn't be the right word for a spiky, crocodilian mosasaur. Maybe they're just more "monstrous"?

Which of course also goes against the point of the original JP, which was to show the dinosaurs as animals rather than monsters...

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2019, 12:43:51 AM »
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The Jw dinosaurs definitely have a different style. I want to say they’re more modern but I don’t know if that’s the right word. But I feel like, for example, if McCreery made that moasaur it wouldn’t be so spiky and crocodilian.
Hmmm, "modern" probably wouldn't be the right word for a spiky, crocodilian mosasaur. Maybe they're just more "monstrous"?

Which of course also goes against the point of the original JP, which was to show the dinosaurs as animals rather than monsters...

MONSTROUS! That’s what I was looking for.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2019, 12:55:45 AM »
Wow, that 8 or so minutes was, imho, way better than the entire last movie!  :))

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2019, 09:24:48 AM »
I don't know. I really don't like this Allosaurus design. It looks very generic, rather unappealing to me. Very boring. Just a plain looking theropod head with two spikes above it's angry browridges. I don't know exactly why, but it doesn't look very Allosaurus like to me.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2019, 10:54:45 AM »
Thanks @Flaffy for sharing the shot of the animatronic. (strange that I haven't seen that anywhere else)

Just glad the Allosaurus is getting nearly the same amount of love as Rexy.  Maybe One-Eye will return with a major role for JW3

In response to (but in no way countering the opinion of) @Appalachiosaurus ' comment, I'm actually glad One-eye's bite was not depicted as being similar to a Rex' crushing bite.  I'm not sure if it was Collin's intention, but I'm glad we got a depiction of an allosaur that's ill-equipped to tussle with ceratopsians.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2019, 12:55:46 PM »
I could see this being the most accurate theropod in the franchise, so I don't understand a lot of the complaints. In general I think the more recent dinosaurs have been leaning more accurate (while the redesigns seem to leaning less accurate?).

The eye socket of the Allo for example I wouldn't even call it shrink-wrapped, there is no indentation around the eye but rather an eye socket shaped crest that is risen above the surface. The eye itself is at the same depth as the area outside the "socket".

It's like they started with an accurate Allosaurus and then made it inaccurate so it would look more in line with the rest of the franchise. I can see how this might make them look stylistically different, but I swear people are so obsessed with finding ways to hate these newer movies that they invent extra reasons. If you don't think they match the art-style than alright, but don't go making baseless claims about accuracy in a franchise where that has never mattered anyway.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2019, 06:40:37 PM »
From what I can tell, the final film version of the Allo in this saw some design tweaks from the maquette and animatronic, and looks better.

But maybe it's just the lighting hiding the design flaws. I'd never guess the animatronic and maquette were an Allo though.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2019, 07:36:41 PM »
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but I swear people are so obsessed with finding ways to hate these newer movies that they invent extra reasons
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but don't go making baseless claims about accuracy in a franchise where that has never mattered anyway.
But apart from the Dilophosaurus, they did attempt to make the dinosaurs accurate in the first three films.

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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2019, 08:16:37 PM »
But apart from the Dilophosaurus, they did attempt to make the dinosaurs accurate in the first three films.

No, the featherless raptors were outdated even then. They weren´t trying much harder than they are now.