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Greeting! New to the forums here! A lot of cool reviews, and topics! Also Modern land crocodiles?!

Started by Cenozoic Fauna, September 24, 2023, 10:37:53 PM

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Cenozoic Fauna

Greetings! In the past used to read a lot of figure reviews on the forums, and read a lot of new upcoming figures and new lines for prehistoric species on the forums to before now being on the forum! very awesome and super cool forums, Have been researching and studying a lot on terrestrial crocodiles, mainly Pleistocene species, and mostly modern terrestrial species.

And one in particular that used to live in fully terrestrial ecosystems in the past in the Bahamas, and Dominican republic, and was also found in the Cayman islands, commonly known as the Cuban crocodile and used to hunt and prey on ground sloths on land and other fauna in the past, and have been reports of pack hunting in the species. Also some other cool facts!

Regarding the terrestrial nature of the Cuban crocodile, a paper studying the bones of Cuban crocodiles from the  blue holes in the Bahamas, looked at the stable isotopes found in the bones of these Cuban crocodile fossils, and they found that Cuban crocodiles were living in a terrestrial food web rather than aquatic. The paper is called "domination by reptiles in a terrestrial food web of the Bahamas prior to human occupation." They have many adaptations namely there tall deep broad skull long recurved compressed teeth, crooked bite margins, heavily keeled limbs and many osteoderms, shorter tail, long very powerful legs and arms.


 Also have been studying on Holocene ands Pleistocene rewilding, very interesting and fascinating new conservation plans. Also rewilding locations such as on islands, and on continents. Also interestingly There has been proposal to introduce komodo dragons into the Australian mainland to fill the apex carnivore niche, void, and which used to live and inhabit the Australia continent, and would also act as a taxon substitute and surrogate species for megalania, even though it did coexist with megalania as well as another very large yet to be described giant goanna intermediate in size between a komodo dragon and megalania yet to be published. Also because of many introduced herbivores and carnivores in Australia, which needs rewilding efforts the most. Also the Cuban crocodile would be a perfect taxon substitute as well, or surrogate for the fully terrestrial land crocodile species quinkana. Though they would have to be cuban crocodiles from the guama croc farm in cuba which have the most important population and genetics, and terrestrial adaptations in the species.

 Also there have been talks and plans to re introduced the cuban crocodile into terrestrial landscapes in the Bahamas and mentioned in a magazine. Also I have heard they discovered a new species of ziphodont land crocodile from the Australian Pleistocene which lived with quinkana, they have found a complete skull, with a partial mandible, and partial nuchal scutes know, the skull is twice the size of the holotype of quinkana fortirostrum which was found in a cave with another megafauna species, a giant wombat. Also this new species yet to be named and published and the species is related to quinkana, and is more similar to Baurusuchus than quinkana, and its skull is very vaulted.

Also have been studying on unknown and undocumented species which could exist, or possibly be megafauna survivors or unique new species such as unknown species of crocodiles, and some have been mentioned in literature, giant crocs and other megafauna species, the mokele mbembe in the congo, unknown rhino like species, unknown giant lizards, birds, and other flora and fauna that could exits or be real in remote locations and suitable habitat. I suspect that the small semi arboreal land crocodile mekosuchus still is very likely to still exist in remote unexplored islands in the south pacific and new Guinea island, and island chains around there. I have recently heard of a crocodile attack by a water well in remote part of the Cameroon which was told to me be after asking about giant crocodile reports from Africa. They were told by one of the villagers that used to live there which said this crocodile was alot larger than a regular crocodile with darker coloration, and a broader wider stocker body build, with horn like protuberances above the eyes. Sounds like some kind of osteolaemine crocodile related to dwarf crocodiles, and slender snouted crocodiles. Dwarf crocodile have somewhat horn like protuberances above there eyes because of there armored palpebral eyelids, and this unknown crocodile has features seen in spectacled caimans which have horn like protuberances above there eyes. Just something interesting I wanted to share   :)

Also cloning extinct species, crisper, and paleoecology, and habitat restoration, protection, conversation as well.

Also for figures and other things I have collected godzilla, pnso, HAOLONGGOOD, safari ltd, southlands replicas, eofauna, beast of the mesozoic, robots, and a few other figures as well, and some vintage stuff to. Also have two ammonite fossils, prehistoric shark teeth, a partial turtle shell fragment, though it yet to be tested if its from the cretaceous.

Also looking forward to more cool prehistoric figure companies! :)  especially the beasts of the Cenozoic line! hope they will make terrestrial crocodiles like quinkana fortirostrum, boverisuchus, barinasuchus for the frist wave of figures, as well as others like Dentaneosuchus, quinkana timara, bretesuchus, sebecus, mekosuchus, trilophosuchus, and that yet to be published and described new land crocodile related to quinkana from the Pleistocene with a complete skull. Also hoping they add semi aqutic crocodiles as well such as purussaurus, euthecodon, crocodylus thorbjarnarsoni, crocodylus anthropophagus, rimasuchus, paludrex, brochuchus, and Toyotamaphimeia machikanensis, and for semi terrestrial species Voay robustus, kinyang mabokoensi, and the acoota Baru croc. for birds all terror bird would e awosme , and moa, elepahtn birds as well, and gastornis, genyornis, Dromornis, Dromornis. and flying birds such as the hasst eagle, pelagornis, argentavis, and teratorn. and the armored horned clubbed tailed land turtles convergent with ankylosaurs such as meiolania, ninjemys, and niolamia. And megalochelys atlas. Also would be cool if they made cenozoic Champsosaurus sp. and Simoedosaurus sp. species. I have mentioned most of these on the beast of the Cenozoic comments, also apologes for posting alot lol. Also that new Netflix life on our planet looks awesome!


Newt

Hello and welcome! I did not know about that research on Cuban crocodiles, though their amazing terrestrial jumping abilities do line up with more terrestrial habits. The mini-crocodilians Osteolaemus and Paleosuchus are also more terrestrial than many people realize.


I cannot speak for David Silva, but I'd be very surprised if he delved into terrestrial crocs. Too obscure for such a major project. You're more likely to see them from a small-run kit maker or Shapeways artist. I could go for a sebecid model or two myself. In fact, any of the Cenozoic South American crocodilians would be welcome; there are so many interesting animals in that group, beyond the famous Purussaurus.

Regarding choristoderes, did you see that the North American specimens formerly assigned to Simoedosaurus have now been given their own genus, Kosmodraco? I'm still on the fence on whether I like that genus name or not...

Cenozoic Fauna

Quote from: Newt on September 25, 2023, 02:55:54 AMHello and welcome! I did not know about that research on Cuban crocodiles, though their amazing terrestrial jumping abilities do line up with more terrestrial habits. The mini-crocodilians Osteolaemus and Paleosuchus are also more terrestrial than many people realize.


I cannot speak for David Silva, but I'd be very surprised if he delved into terrestrial crocs. Too obscure for such a major project. You're more likely to see them from a small-run kit maker or Shapeways artist. I could go for a sebecid model or two myself. In fact, any of the Cenozoic South American crocodilians would be welcome; there are so many interesting animals in that group, beyond the famous Purussaurus.

Regarding choristoderes, did you see that the North American specimens formerly assigned to Simoedosaurus have now been given their own genus, Kosmodraco? I'm still on the fence on whether I like that genus name or not...
Hello! Also thank you! Awesome to be on the forums, really appreciate it, also Yes indeed, Cuban crocodiles are also the best runners and gallopers, and like all crocodiles can perform a rotary gallop, and transverse gallop as well which is pretty wild. Also very True! They are indeed, the second and third most terrestrial crocodilian species and are super cool and awesome and fascinating  species.

Whats really cool about osteolaemus sp. is that the western species during the dry season continue to feed and hunt on land for terrestrial prey when there is no water around and generally mainly hunt in the rainforest floor which is really cool. And there are currently three known species in the genus, the Congo dwarf crocodile also being the more vibrantly colored species.

 And Regarding the paleosuchus sp. they are super cool as well and unique among alligatorids in the fact they are the most terrestrial alligatorids alive which is really interesting, and eat mainly terrestrial prey, especially more so the smooth fronted caiman from what is known. Also the smooth fronted caiman which actually has a unique defense against predators or other carnivores such as Jaguars, the smooth fronted caiman has unique Nuchal scutes and if a carnivore tries to grab its neck it raises its head and neck and clasps it's nuchal scutes together pinching whatever carnivore try's to attempt to grab by the neck and prey on it, this behavior is also known for the Cuvier's dwarf caiman.

Also there could be other cryptic Species complexes in the genus. It's also intriguing that alligatorids are unable to gallop like crocodiles, but can remain at a similar speed while trotting, running. It was quite interesting to learn that there are alligatorids that are mostly terrestrial in there habits.

Also I understand what you mean, but very interestingly and tantalizingly, someone asked David Silva about terrestrial crocodiles for the Cenozoic line and David replied with "its very possible", so it seems very likely they will make some terrestrial crocodile figures at some point or maybe they might have a couple for the Cenozoic Kickstarter perhaps, would be really awesome, also indeed true, would be super cool to have a model kit of a sebecid, something like bretesuchus would be dope as well to. Also very true indeed, would be phenomenal to have a purussaurus and even a mourasuchus as well.


 Also Regarding the choristoderes, whoa! I did not know they gave new names to these North American choristoderes, that's super fascinating, and really intriguing as well, the current name is really cool, the new one seems quite optimal, pretty cool as well I'd suppose. I do wonder how terrestrial they were though and how they hunted? Also interesting to learn about how they can live in cooler environments. Also have you heard about possible choristoderes trackways in south Korea that would suggest a crocodilian like high walk for the group? It was suggested to be made from a species called Monjurosuchus. Also have you heard about bipedal crocodiles making it to the Cretaceous period? They discovered trackways of bipedal land crocodiles from Korea during that time period, quite crazy they were found during the Cretaceous honestly, bipedal crocodiles or croc relatives were quite common during the Triassic so it's quite the fossil trackway discovery.

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Hello and welcome to the forum! And what an interesting bundle of views and topics you bring to the table!

Cenozoic Fauna

Quote from: Libraraptor on September 27, 2023, 08:07:14 PMHello and welcome to the forum! And what an interesting bundle of views and topics you bring to the table!
Greeting! Also Thank you very much!

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