Deinocheirus skull

[Yutyrannus]

Has the paper on this been published yet?

[HD-man]

What other non-bird examples are there (besides maybe troodonts, which seem more like mesocarnivores than actual omnivores)?

Limusaurus and perhaps Elaphrosaurus as well.

Still seems like a stretch to say "a lot of theropods".

[Gwangi]

What other non-bird examples are there (besides maybe troodonts, which seem more like mesocarnivores than actual omnivores)?

Limusaurus and perhaps Elaphrosaurus as well.

Still seems like a stretch to say "a lot of theropods".

I guess that depends on what you consider "a lot" to be. There are "a lot" of species of ornithomimosaurs and "a lot" of species of oviraptorosaurs aren't there? It's really a subjective term isn't it? Those two clades along with oddballs like Limusaurus and Elaphrosaurus and possibly Troodon and lets not forget the Therizinosaurs constitute as "a lot" in my book.

[HD-man]

I guess that depends on what you consider "a lot" to be. There are "a lot" of species of ornithomimosaurs and "a lot" of species of oviraptorosaurs aren't there? It's really a subjective term isn't it? Those two clades along with oddballs like Limusaurus and Elaphrosaurus and possibly Troodon and lets not forget the Therizinosaurs constitute as "a lot" in my book.

Fair enough, although I was specifically referring to omnivores (as opposed to herbivores like the therizinosaurs).

[stargatedalek]

theres no consensus on therizinosaurs being entirely herbivorous

[Gwangi]

theres no consensus on therizinosaurs being entirely herbivorous

Heck, I'm of the opinion that some ceratopsians and ornithopods may not have been entirely herbivorous but I suppose that topic is for another thread. Lets face it though, there are few pure carnivores or herbivores in the world. I'm sure it was the same with extinct dinosaurs as well.

[HD-man]

theres no consensus on therizinosaurs being entirely herbivorous

Actually, there is ("The present consensus, however, is that therizinosaurs fed on plants. In support of this hypothesis is the expansive belly and hips, which might indicate a large fermentation chamber for processing hard-to-digest leaves and stems. In this case, these dinosaurs would be the only known herbivorous theropods": http://books.google.com/books?id=0M8WAQAAMAAJ&q=%22The+present+consensus,+however,+is+that+therizinosaurs%22&dq=%22The+present+consensus,+however,+is+that+therizinosaurs%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OovtU-LHMZOjyQSF8YLoDw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA ).

Heck, I'm of the opinion that some ceratopsians and ornithopods may not have been entirely herbivorous but I suppose that topic is for another thread. Lets face it though, there are few pure carnivores or herbivores in the world. I'm sure it was the same with extinct dinosaurs as well.

I get what you're saying. However, we should still be able to use general terms (E.g. Herbivore, carnivore, omnivore, etc) & know what we're talking about without unnecessary nit-picking (E.g. Cows/deer aren't herbivorous b/c some populations sometimes eat meat herpy derby derp!!1!!). If someone wants to more specific terms when talking about a specific group/species (like I did when talking about troodonts), fine.

P.S. I'm not complaining about anything you did, Gwangi. I'm just complaining in general b/c I was reminded of how some ppl are annoying like that.

[Yutyrannus]

Hello? Has the paper been published yet?

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Hello? Has the paper been published yet?

Isnt that being a bit silly ?It was only a month or two ago that the skull was located and returned. I doubt anyone has had enough time to mount a serious study let alone issue a peer reviewed paper . Sometimes these finds take years to be written up....for instance we still have nothing official for Lane the triceratops. Generally the first step is conservation, cleaning and preserving the fossil, then it is generally studied

[Dinoguy2]

Hello? Has the paper been published yet?

Isnt that being a bit silly ?It was only a month or two ago that the skull was located and returned. I doubt anyone has had enough time to mount a serious study let alone issue a peer reviewed paper . Sometimes these finds take years to be written up....for instance we still have nothing official for Lane the triceratops. Generally the first step is conservation, cleaning and preserving the fossil, then it is generally studied

Check back in 5-10 years, unless somebody's planning a quickie letter to Nature...

[Yutyrannus]

Hello? Has the paper been published yet?

Isnt that being a bit silly ?It was only a month or two ago that the skull was located and returned. I doubt anyone has had enough time to mount a serious study let alone issue a peer reviewed paper . Sometimes these finds take years to be written up....for instance we still have nothing official for Lane the triceratops. Generally the first step is conservation, cleaning and preserving the fossil, then it is generally studied

Okay, thanks!