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Fossil dog: New species roamed eastern North America 12 million years ago

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May 12, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
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May 12, 2016, 05:54:03 PM
There again with nonsensical journalistic hyperbole, what does the fact that it lived with Megalodon have to do with it? I understand giving a time relation, but I am sure it lived with plenty of other things, that it actually met!
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May 13, 2016, 04:14:11 PM Last Edit: May 13, 2016, 04:14:27 PM by Tyto_Theropod
Quote from: PainterRex on May 12, 2016, 05:54:03 PM
There again with nonsensical journalistic hyperbole, what does the fact that it lived with Megalodon have to do with it? I understand giving a time relation, but I am sure it lived with plenty of other things, that it actually met!

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May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

Gwangi

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May 13, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

It says "in this respect they are believed to have behaved in a similar way to hyenas today".

Borophagins are commonly compared to hyenas. What's the problem?

Yutyrannus

#5
May 14, 2016, 12:45:04 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 13, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

It says "in this respect they are believed to have behaved in a similar way to hyenas today".

Borophagins are commonly compared to hyenas. What's the problem?
The problem is that it says "canine," which is the group that includes all modern dogs, it needs to say either "canid" or "borophagine."

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Gwangi

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May 14, 2016, 02:29:49 AM Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 02:31:50 AM by Gwangi
Quote from: Yutyrannus on May 14, 2016, 12:45:04 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 13, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

It says "in this respect they are believed to have behaved in a similar way to hyenas today".

Borophagins are commonly compared to hyenas. What's the problem?
The problem is that it says "canine," which is the group that includes all modern dogs, it needs to say either "canid" or "borophagine."

The family is Canidae, which contains the subfamily of the same name as well as the subfamily Borophaginae. Any member of the family can be called a canid or canine.

Yutyrannus

#7
May 14, 2016, 03:56:05 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 14, 2016, 02:29:49 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on May 14, 2016, 12:45:04 AM
The problem is that it says "canine," which is the group that includes all modern dogs, it needs to say either "canid" or "borophagine."

The family is Canidae, which contains the subfamily of the same name as well as the subfamily Borophaginae. Any member of the family can be called a canid or canine.
Any member of the family can be called a canid, yes, but "canine" refers specifically to members of the subfamily Caninae. As Cynarctus is a member of the Borophaginae, it cannot be called a canine.

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Gwangi

#8
May 14, 2016, 05:24:20 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on May 14, 2016, 03:56:05 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 14, 2016, 02:29:49 AM
Quote from: Yutyrannus on May 14, 2016, 12:45:04 AM
The problem is that it says "canine," which is the group that includes all modern dogs, it needs to say either "canid" or "borophagine."

The family is Canidae, which contains the subfamily of the same name as well as the subfamily Borophaginae. Any member of the family can be called a canid or canine.
Any member of the family can be called a canid, yes, but "canine" refers specifically to members of the subfamily Caninae. As Cynarctus is a member of the Borophaginae, it cannot be called a canine.

Fair enough, that seems to check out.

stargatedalek

#9
May 14, 2016, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 13, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

It says "in this respect they are believed to have behaved in a similar way to hyenas today".

Borophagins are commonly compared to hyenas. What's the problem?
That makes sense. I figured it was saying they were related. I've heard to many people call hyenas canines not to jump to the worst possible explanation.

Gwangi

#10
May 15, 2016, 02:40:03 AM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 14, 2016, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 13, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 13, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
"Hyena like canine".

Nope done reading.

It says "in this respect they are believed to have behaved in a similar way to hyenas today".

Borophagins are commonly compared to hyenas. What's the problem?
That makes sense. I figured it was saying they were related. I've heard to many people call hyenas canines not to jump to the worst possible explanation.

Gotcha. Yeah, it annoys me too when hyenas are classified as canines. The BBC series "Life of Mammals" makes that mistake and it bugs me every time.

Yutyrannus

#11
May 15, 2016, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on May 15, 2016, 02:40:03 AM
Quote from: stargatedalek on May 14, 2016, 04:15:58 PM
That makes sense. I figured it was saying they were related. I've heard to many people call hyenas canines not to jump to the worst possible explanation.
Gotcha. Yeah, it annoys me too when hyenas are classified as canines. The BBC series "Life of Mammals" makes that mistake and it bugs me every time.
Yeah, that's still one of my favourite documentaries but that drives me nuts every time I watch it.

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