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W-Dragon: New For 2023

Started by Over9K, June 03, 2023, 06:27:13 AM

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Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: SidB on July 07, 2023, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Over9K on June 06, 2023, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on June 04, 2023, 05:29:37 AMI have one ordered through Sugotoys. Haven't heard anything about shipping as of yet on it though.

Until this past week, the estimated release date was "May 2023", but as of 6/1 that has been changed to "Within 2023"... not exactly confidence inspiring...
I just ordered one from the Model toy Shop on Aliexpress for 141 dollars Canadian plus 9 dollars shipping. Arrival projected towards the end of July. It's a big figure for "1/35", closer in size to Rebor's Kiss, I'd say. Sure am glad to get another lipped rex to go along with Kiss, plus the detail work is remarkable. I gather that the material is some type of PNC/ resin composite - any experience, good or bad, with this product?

If it's like their retro Rex it will be bigger than Rebor's. The head on those were a third larger at least.


SidB

I'll post it in comparison with others, including the Rebor when it arrives. Should be interesting.

Over9K

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 07, 2023, 06:03:07 PMIf it's like their retro Rex it will be bigger than Rebor's. The head on those were a third larger at least.

I'm expecting this Lipped Rex to be similar in scale to the previous Giganotosaurus.
 

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Over9K on July 08, 2023, 04:19:56 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 07, 2023, 06:03:07 PMIf it's like their retro Rex it will be bigger than Rebor's. The head on those were a third larger at least.

I'm expecting this Lipped Rex to be similar in scale to the previous Giganotosaurus.
 

Ah I never bought it.

Leyster

Quote from: Over9K on July 08, 2023, 04:19:56 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 07, 2023, 06:03:07 PMIf it's like their retro Rex it will be bigger than Rebor's. The head on those were a third larger at least.

I'm expecting this Lipped Rex to be similar in scale to the previous Giganotosaurus.
 
It is not, it's like half bigger at least. On Weibo there are comparisons.
"Dinosaurs lived sixty five million years ago. What is left of them is fossilized in the rocks, and it is in the rock that real scientists make real discoveries. Now what John Hammond and InGen did at Jurassic Park is create genetically engineered theme park monsters, nothing more and nothing less."

Over9K

#25
Quote from: Leyster on July 08, 2023, 10:16:26 AMIt is not, it's like half bigger at least. On Weibo there are comparisons.

Link? I'd like to see those.  Throwing a measure on the Giganotosaurus, "half bigger" would make the new Lipped Rex 6.75inches at the hip, and 23 inches long.

 



Leyster

"Dinosaurs lived sixty five million years ago. What is left of them is fossilized in the rocks, and it is in the rock that real scientists make real discoveries. Now what John Hammond and InGen did at Jurassic Park is create genetically engineered theme park monsters, nothing more and nothing less."

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SidB

#27
When I ordered the W-Dragon lipped rex, the specs listed a length of 41 cm.

Over9K


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SidB

#30
A very impressive accurate or near accurate rex model and with lips too. I've ordered one and will compare it with Rebor's Kiss, when it arrives. The choice of open and closed mouth position heads is a real asset, IMO, very slight seam not withstanding. I expect to usually display it in the latter position normally, to show off the lips. Who knows, I may keep Cameron unaltered, and use this, Kiss and the prospective Eofauna release as my lipped versions.

SenSx

You would say it's an accurate rex ?
I'm hesitating between this and the PNSO Rex + added lips which will cost more than the W-Dragon after all...

TheImmortalEye

does anyone by any chance know a german seller for this model, and or another aliexpress store than model toy store?


Over9K

#33
Quote from: SenSx on July 17, 2023, 10:25:33 PMYou would say it's an accurate rex ?
I'm hesitating between this and the PNSO Rex + added lips which will cost more than the W-Dragon after all...

W-Dragon has posted BTS images of Stan's skull under the sculpt.





I think a lot of times people have the mistaken impression that "stylized" and "accurate" are mutually exclusive terms, when they are far from it.

Point of fact; While some life restorations of dinosaurs are "accurate", very single life restoration of a dinosaur is "stylized", simply because they are created by artists, who each have their own "style".

The fact that a person can immediately identify dinosaurs from different companies illustrates that "stylized" is a constant in dinosaur modeling, and does not actually denote accuracy.

This particular model is stylized obviously, but it also does not feature anything that disqualifies it as being accurate. The skull is the right shape, the musculature is correct, if a bit "swol", the integument is typical of modern accurate reconstructions.

As for "evil eyes", predatory dinosaurs are known to have them...



Lynx

I'm still so confused by what 'evil eyes' means. Every single time either the question of what it is has been ignored or the answer is just a eye ring, which doesn't make sense
An oversized house cat.

Over9K

Quote from: Lynx on July 18, 2023, 02:16:27 AMI'm still so confused by what 'evil eyes' means. Every single time either the question of what it is has been ignored or the answer is just a eye ring, which doesn't make sense

IMO, the bald eagle image illustrates the concept. Those are "evil eyes", menacing, aggressive eyes.

SenSx

#36
Those are good arguments Over9k, but I feel the most other accurate Rex representations (PNSO, Prehistoric Planet) have a broader snout than the W-Dragon, and I got accustumed to associate that to accuracy on a Rex.

Bread

#37
Quote from: Over9K on July 18, 2023, 03:18:45 AM
Quote from: Lynx on July 18, 2023, 02:16:27 AMI'm still so confused by what 'evil eyes' means. Every single time either the question of what it is has been ignored or the answer is just a eye ring, which doesn't make sense

IMO, the bald eagle image illustrates the concept. Those are "evil eyes", menacing, aggressive eyes.
To add more to this, companies like Rebor and Nanmu have been known to give an angry eye look to their models. Sometimes it really just depends on the photo angle.
Rebor's Kiss kind of has it:


But, I honestly prefer the angry eye look at times compared to the "spaced out" look that sometimes can be found on PNSO's:


To me at least, it is a minor nitpick that I don't really hold against any company or model.

Does this Wdragon Tyrannosaurus seem to have this look more than typical models? Yes, but it adds character. Heck, I've seen resin models with this and they're usually appraised way higher than mass produced.

JohannesB

#38
The word "scowl", or possibly more correct: "frown", would be more scientific, I guess.

Over9K

Quote from: SenSx on July 18, 2023, 10:01:27 AMThose are good arguments Over9k, but I feel the most other accurate Rex representations (PNSO, Prehistoric Planet) have a broader snout than the W-Dragon, and I got accustumed to associate that to accuracy on a Rex.


Totally fair, though I would posit the notion that the differences in shape between W-Dragon's Stan, PNSO's Sue (Cameron) and P-Planet's Hank are the natural variations in the species.

Personally, I feel that with a lip-conversion on Cameron, and matching colorways by a single artist, you could use these two as a mating couple, Stan male, Sue female. I speculate that Stan has more keratin because male t.rexes use their heads and their teeth as part of the rut, jousting for the right to mate. Sue is thicker in the neck and the body to withstand the stresses and pressure of the mating act. Sue's face is smoother, because although face-mouthing may have been part of mating, it is non-aggressive and any injury is purely cosmetic.

Males live a solitary life in adulthood, females live in a matriarchal clan system, pushing male offspring out in their adolescence. Males hunt alone. Females hunt in a pack. Males are thusly leaner, by an order of magnitude.

The two models fit what is, IMO, a plausible scenario.







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