Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

[GojiraGuy1954]

90% of the people who visit the park here have seen at least one of the movies. Each film is a new introduction to that. If it gets them in the door with flash and spectacle so they want to learn more it's not a bad thing.

This feels somewhat ironic given a premise in two of the last four movies (JW and JW:R) is that everyone has become bored of dinosaurs.

From the Jurassic World script:

...let's be honest, no one is impressed by a dinosaur anymore...

consumers want them bigger, louder, more teeth.

From the Jurassic World: Rebirth script (in reference to a dinosaur museum):

Five years ago, you'd have to wait in line for hours if you could even get in. Nobody cares about these animals anymore.

Where the original JP was a love letter to palaeontology, the JW movies are...not. I could see how children watching 'D. rex', 'Mutadons', 'Indominus', and 'Indoraptor', would be inspired to visit a theme park, but it would surprise me if the same kids were inspired to go into palaeontology as a career. Genetics maybe...

I think the idea in JW could have worked if it was a satire on how out of touch corporate executives are with the wants of actual regular people. They want to see real, authentic dinosaurs, especially a dinosaur-obsessed kid like Grey, but InGen and the investors just keep pumping out more and more screwed up monsters because they're unique animals that they can copyright, patent, and have merchandise exclusivity rights for

[dragon53]

REBIRTH Could lead to Chris Pratt returning.


LINK: https://screenrant.com/jurassic-world-rebirth-owen-grady-story-change-chris-pratt-return/

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

REBIRTH Could lead to Chris Pratt returning.


LINK: https://screenrant.com/jurassic-world-rebirth-owen-grady-story-change-chris-pratt-return/

Oh no..Bryce yeah she could have a cameo..Pratt would try to steal the scene.

[Cpt Red 3eard]

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I think the idea in JW could have worked if it was a satire on how out of touch corporate executives are with the wants of actual regular people. They want to see real, authentic dinosaurs, especially a dinosaur-obsessed kid like Grey, but InGen and the investors just keep pumping out more and more screwed up monsters because they're unique animals that they can copyright, patent, and have merchandise exclusivity rights for
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I think the underlying theme of Jurassic World (2015) was supposed to be about the state of Hollywood. It's not about "dinosaurs" it's about movies. The dinosaurs represent older more 'natural' movies that have come before, but people are getting tired of them so Jurassic World (Hollywood) needs to make something bigger and better in order to appease the masses. Hence the Indominous Rex, our Modern Blockbuster, a hybrid of the success that came before meant to wow them all. But...it doesn't work. It leads to a collapse of the system and when all is said and done, Classic Hollywood (our T. rex) is still the king-still good enough and no pretender will be able to dethrone it.
Even Owen (I think) is meant to be an old school Hollywood Man's Man. He has all the trappings of a confident man from movies from several generations ago (he drinks, he catches flies out of the air, he's confident, he kisses the woman, etc) and he's the warning against what modern Hollywood is producing. However, Chris Pratt was ABSOLUTELY the wrong choice for this role. We needed someone who looked and acted like a golden age cinema man to do the part. I've heard that originally Josh Brolin was considered for the role and my heart hurts at the missed opportunity.
Even so, I think that's the only part of Jurassic World that kinda works as intended (which may only be an echo of the original script by Jaffa and Silver) and everything else kinda falls apart.
Jurassic films are meant to be about the dangers of scientific exploitation (just because we can doesn't mean we should) and modern World films basically say that the science is fine, but greedy people ruin it. There's something to that, but that's not the original intent of the story. (Yes I know you can read that from the original novel but movie Hammond isn't a greedy villain-he genuinely wants to make the world better with dinosaurs)
I kinda think that both premises are fine and fun for exploration via dinosaurs, but the two don't jive well together. One rejects the system entirely, the other rejects users of the system.
There's quite a bit to be said about the underlying themes of Jurassic films (especially when it comes to family/parenthood) but ultimately it's hard to convey everything via digestible bits of text to people we'll most likely never meet in real life. All that to say-I know people will have differing opinions and that's fine. I'm just rambling about movies so don't take me too seriously.

[AcryAllo]

I'm not sure why they keep trying to show corporate corruption and incompetence every movie, it's overdone

[GojiraGuy1954]

I'm not sure why they keep trying to show corporate corruption and incompetence every movie, it's overdone

...god forbid a movie franchise has a central theme? Just because Rebirth had absolutely nothing of worth to say about it doesn't mean that future films should just drop the entire point of the story, it means the writers should put in more effort

[MLMjp]

I was set on skipping this film until home release, but last friday night I caved in, curiosity got the better (or worst) of me. I know Im late and most of the stuff I'm gonna say you guys probably said it already, but screw it!

I had to watch it in a bit of a rush as we were going on vacation to our countryside village home. It was expensive, 13€ for the ticket, 9,9€ for the cheapest popcorn/drink combo and 6€ for the taxi as I forgot the metro was under maintenance.

One word: Eh

It wasn't the worst, it wasn't the best, better than Dominion, felt like Jurassic Park 3 2.0.

The set up for this film would have worked way better if it had taken place between the first Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. That way we can get rid of the whole "Dinosaurus couldn't adapt to our world and now they are dying, that way, it would be like, now that Ingen and Masranni has fallen, lets take advantage of that secret abandoned research facility.

Speaking on abandoned research facilities, just like JP3, they're always wasting them. Show us the characters exploring it, reading diaries, files, watching video records... go deeper into what was going on! But no, we only got the flashback at the beginning and at the end the research facility is just another set piece. Speaking of the flashback...the snickers...

Another thing I don't know what to think about is the commentary about the medical industry, so I'll just leave it there.

ScarJo, Mahershala and Paleontologist were fine, Krebss was a predictable bad guy. Perhaps they should have cut the family and instead, make the mercenary crew larger and have them split after the boat attack, that way we could still have got the T.rex scene. Although by doing that you cut the first Mosasaurus attack which I actually liked. Poor Dolores the Aquilops, she is getting taken out of her home and she would probably die because she won't be able to adapt to the environment, like the film just established at the beginning.

The mutant hybrids, was their presence justified? Not really, specially those abominable Mutadons, everything they did Velociraptors could have done it better. The scene with the raptor almost made scream "F**K!" The set up was so good with the raptor slowly approaching the boyfriend while he was peeing! But then that thing comes down and kills the raptor! I hate those things, I hate their design, they are just dragons, they don't belong in this franchise.

I'm torn on the Distortus rex. I've warmed to it somehow, at least this one looks like a failed experiment somewhat, but again, I don't know if something like this belongs in the franchise. I did like it's third act scene, but it doesn't do much. Have hints of it through the middle of the film, be a haunting presence that constantly stalks our protagonists and then his participation in the third act would have improved greatly. Also I know creature size changes between shots for spectacle reasons, but at one moment the Distortus is munching on an entire helicopter and at the other it's jaws are the size of a human!

I liked the DNA hunt aspect, I actually got happy when the characters managed to get the samples and most of the scenes were cool. I admit the Titanosaurus part got me and the Mosasaurus one was exciting, but the Spinosaurus were a bit underwhelming, they didn't do that much which is a shame. Heck, some people said that they should have returned at the end and finished the Distortus, which honestly would have worked, because instead of your typical 1v1 fight you would have the Spinos dragging the Distortus to the water. Imagine Duncan with the flair leading the Distortus to the Spinos, that would have been great...

The Tyrannosaurus scene was also one of the better parts, I specially liked the yawn and turn when it was sleeping, reminded me of the sleepy Tarbosaurus from Prehistoric Planet. That indestructible raft though...

Overall, it was fun, but also meh, sometimes stupid, and wasted potential (but not infuriating like Dominion) Might change in the future after a rewatch, but right now I would rank it:

• Jurassic Park
• The Lost World
• Jurassic World
• Jurassic Park 3
• Rebirth
• Fallen Kingdom
• Dominion

[Carnoking]

I've grown to absolutely abhor the decision to kill off the mainland dinosaurs. Not only is it regressive to the larger story that, for all their faults, the previous trilogy of films put in the work to build, but it's also antithetical to the core idea this franchise is built upon ("Life... uh, finds a way")

If we really needed yet another story that took place on an isolated island, why not just leave the dinosaurs on the mainland and say these rare dinosaurs abandoned on an island hold some key feature that the mainland species lack? That way, you get your island adventure without completely undoing the last 7 years of lore and perhaps the most interesting idea to come from the World trilogy: dinosaurs in our world.

And now that I think about it, why even call this movie Jurassic World anymore if we're just back on an island and dinosaurs are no longer a global presence?

Good grief, I didn't realize this was such a bone of contention for me until I started typing. I actually rewatched The Lost World the other day and for some reason found the scene when the Buck eats the Unlucky Bastard (Koepp) particularly cathartic. I guess this explains why.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I've grown to absolutely abhor the decision to kill off the mainland dinosaurs. Not only is it regressive to the larger story that, for all their faults, the previous trilogy of films put in the work to build, but it's also antithetical to the core idea this franchise is built upon ("Life... uh, finds a way")

If we really needed yet another story that took place on an isolated island, why not just leave the dinosaurs on the mainland and say these rare dinosaurs abandoned on an island hold some key feature that the mainland species lack? That way, you get your island adventure without completely undoing the last 7 years of lore and perhaps the most interesting idea to come from the World trilogy: dinosaurs in our world.

And now that I think about it, why even call this movie Jurassic World anymore if we're just back on an island and dinosaurs are no longer a global presence?

Good grief, I didn't realize this was such a bone of contention for me until I started typing. I actually rewatched The Lost World the other day and for some reason found the scene when the Buck eats the Unlucky Bastard (Koepp) particularly cathartic. I guess this explains why.

I feel like this matter will be retconned. Like it was a govt. proclamation and a way to dismiss the problem of dinosaurs living in the wild as " remnants"or something.  There are still plenty of them out there.

Calling the films "Jurassic World" was to save money on royalties as I recall?

[DinoToyForum]

I've grown to absolutely abhor the decision to kill off the mainland dinosaurs. Not only is it regressive to the larger story that, for all their faults, the previous trilogy of films put in the work to build, but it's also antithetical to the core idea this franchise is built upon ("Life... uh, finds a way")

If we really needed yet another story that took place on an isolated island, why not just leave the dinosaurs on the mainland and say these rare dinosaurs abandoned on an island hold some key feature that the mainland species lack? That way, you get your island adventure without completely undoing the last 7 years of lore and perhaps the most interesting idea to come from the World trilogy: dinosaurs in our world.

And now that I think about it, why even call this movie Jurassic World anymore if we're just back on an island and dinosaurs are no longer a global presence?

Good grief, I didn't realize this was such a bone of contention for me until I started typing. I actually rewatched The Lost World the other day and for some reason found the scene when the Buck eats the Unlucky Bastard (Koepp) particularly cathartic. I guess this explains why.

I feel like this matter will be retconned. Like it was a govt. proclamation and a way to dismiss the problem of dinosaurs living in the wild as " remnants"or something.  There are still plenty of them out there.

Calling the films "Jurassic World" was to save money on royalties as I recall?

And "Jurassic World" is just the name of the new park in the first JW film, like Sea World or Disney World. It only takes on a literal meaning in the sequels, unless I'm misremembering.

[AcryAllo]

I've grown to absolutely abhor the decision to kill off the mainland dinosaurs. Not only is it regressive to the larger story that, for all their faults, the previous trilogy of films put in the work to build, but it's also antithetical to the core idea this franchise is built upon ("Life... uh, finds a way")

If we really needed yet another story that took place on an isolated island, why not just leave the dinosaurs on the mainland and say these rare dinosaurs abandoned on an island hold some key feature that the mainland species lack? That way, you get your island adventure without completely undoing the last 7 years of lore and perhaps the most interesting idea to come from the World trilogy: dinosaurs in our world.

And now that I think about it, why even call this movie Jurassic World anymore if we're just back on an island and dinosaurs are no longer a global presence?

Good grief, I didn't realize this was such a bone of contention for me until I started typing. I actually rewatched The Lost World the other day and for some reason found the scene when the Buck eats the Unlucky Bastard (Koepp) particularly cathartic. I guess this explains why.

I feel like this matter will be retconned. Like it was a govt. proclamation and a way to dismiss the problem of dinosaurs living in the wild as " remnants"or something.  There are still plenty of them out there.

Calling the films "Jurassic World" was to save money on royalties as I recall?

And "Jurassic World" is just the name of the new park in the first JW film, like Sea World or Disney World. It only takes on a literal meaning in the sequels, unless I'm misremembering.

Honestly I feel Rebirth seriously screwed up the overall plot-they'll have to say rebirth is non-canon and it'll look idiotic

[AcryAllo]

In response to the dinosaur dying out backlash

[Delisaurus Steven]

I've come around on this movie from my initial impression, but this is my biggest sticking point as well. You want this to be an ongoing franchise, but now you've completely written yourself into a corner, and to be honest I'm not sure where they go from here. Say what you will about the first Jurassic World, but at least it took the franchise in a new direction. People's biggest issue with Lost World and JP3 was "why would people continue to go to an island with dinosaurs?" So the bright idea now is to reset the status quo to that point in the franchise? Just baffling.