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Papo New For 2025

Started by Joliezac, November 17, 2024, 11:22:50 PM

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Protopatch

Quote from: Syndicate Bias on May 13, 2025, 08:41:20 AMPapo will do what Papo wants every year they release their new catalogue despite whatever wishes this forum may have.
Honestly, I don't think so.
Following my recent (long) telephone conversation with a qualified person at Papo France, I had the confirmation of their interest in studying the wishlist of our community.
They even shared with me their direct contact details in that purpose.
However, if they decided to keep some of our ideas, they would take them into consideration for their 2027-2028 novelties at the earliest.


Sim

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Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 09:28:29 PMI think it's quite inconsiderate to dismiss or disparage another person's preferences regarding which toy(s) from which company they would like to see made.
It's not just that though.  There's also the endless requests for more carcharodontosaurids, every couple of posts has been like that.  I think it's bad behaviour, because others have strong wishes too but they don't express them in such a repetitive and annoying way.  If they did the forum would be full of spam.
Also, the request was for Papo's next large theropod to be a Carcharodontosaurus.  Taking into account the equally endless stream of carcharodontosaurid figures, it is frustrating to see someone imply they want another instead of something that lacks good options that has been wished for previously.

Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 09:28:29 PMIt doesn't matter one single bit if there are already toys of a particular species; if someone desires for this company or that company to make that species, then it's their desire and they are 100% entitled to it.
With regards to the second part of what you said, of course.  However it does matter if there are already figures of a particular species as people can then enjoy that.  For species that lack that, there is no version to enjoy.

suspsy

Quote from: Sim on May 13, 2025, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 09:28:29 PMI think it's quite inconsiderate to dismiss or disparage another person's preferences regarding which toy(s) from which company they would like to see made.
It's not just that though.  There's also the endless requests for more carcharodontosaurids, every couple of posts has been like that.

So what?

Seriously, so what? If people want carcharodontosaurid toys, then they want them, and they should not be dismissed or disparaged for wanting them. Not by you, not by me, not by anyone. Period. Let people want what they want.

QuoteI think it's bad behaviour, because others have strong wishes too but they don't express them in such a repetitive and annoying way.

But one could easily make the exact same unfair accusation against you due to your frequently stated desire for a Torvosaurus. Again, other people here have every right to want what they want. You certainly didn't appreciate it when SyndicateBias disparaged your desire, yet you did it to them first.

 
QuoteAlso, the request was for Papo's next large theropod to be a Carcharodontosaurus.  Taking into account the equally endless stream of carcharodontosaurid figures, it is frustrating to see someone imply they want another instead of something that lacks good options that has been wished for previously.

You are perfectly within your right to be annoyed by that, but that doesn't give you the right to tell anyone that they are wrong for wanting a Carcharodontosaurus.

QuoteWith regards to the second part of what you said, of course.  However it does matter if there are already figures of a particular species as people can then enjoy that.  For species that lack that, there is no version to enjoy.

Again, one could just as easily argue that there is no need for a Papo Torvosaurus because there's already a Deluxe CollectA one. Moreover, it goes without saying that artistic style varies significantly from company to company. The current CollectA T. rex is very different from the current Safari T. rex, the current Haolonggood T. rex is very different from the current Schleich T. rex, and the current PNSO T. rex is very different from the current Papo one. I'll happily say it once again: if someone desires a Carcharodontosaurus done in the Papo style, they are 100% entitled to their desire and it is very inconsiderate for anyone else to say that they shouldn't get one.
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Sim

Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 10:32:25 PMSo what?

Seriously, so what? If people want carcharodontosaurid toys, then they want them, and they should not be dismissed or disparaged for wanting them. Not by you, not by me, not by anyone. Period. Let people want what they want.
Of course people can want what they want, I've already said what bothers me in contrast to your oversimplification above.

Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 10:32:25 PMBut one could easily make the exact same unfair accusation against you due to your frequently stated desire for a Torvosaurus. Again, other people here have every right to want what they want. You certainly didn't appreciate it when SyndicateBias disparaged your desire, yet you did it to them first.
I haven't requested Torvosaurus every couple of posts.  And again, I'm not indicating that people can't want what they want.  I find it frustrating when one says that a company should make more of what there's already lots of instead of something different that is requested by others.  And again, that the same request is made every couple of posts.  I stand by what I've said and don't believe it's an "unfair accusation".

Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 10:32:25 PMYou are perfectly within your right to be annoyed by that, but that doesn't give you the right to tell anyone that they are wrong for wanting a Carcharodontosaurus.
It's not so simple, as I've expressed previously.


Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 10:32:25 PMAgain, one could just as easily argue that there is no need for a Papo Torvosaurus because there's already a Deluxe CollectA one. Moreover, it goes without saying that artistic style varies significantly from company to company. The current CollectA T. rex is very different from the current Safari T. rex, the current Haolonggood T. rex is very different from the current Schleich T. rex, and the current PNSO T. rex is very different from the current Papo one. I'll happily say it once again: if someone desires a Carcharodontosaurus done in the Papo style, they are 100% entitled to their desire and it is very inconsiderate for anyone else to say that they shouldn't get one.
The CollectA Torvosaurus doesn't have the appearance we now know Torvosaurus had from the Elvis specimen.  I disagree with the last thing you said.  I think what's inconsiderate is to request that Carcharodontosaurus should get priority over something different which actually lacks a good option and doesn't have oversaturation and that it's (carcharodontosaurids) requested every couple of posts, as if that request has more importance than other people's.

DavidJamesArmsby

Oh no not again.

suspsy

Quote from: Sim on May 13, 2025, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: suspsy on May 13, 2025, 10:32:25 PMSo what?

Seriously, so what? If people want carcharodontosaurid toys, then they want them, and they should not be dismissed or disparaged for wanting them. Not by you, not by me, not by anyone. Period. Let people want what they want.
Of course people can want what they want, I've already said what bothers me in contrast to your oversimplification above.

Oh, I'm perfectly aware of what bothers you, as are many other members here, but that still remotely doesn't justify you saying "I hope Papo doesn't make Carcharodontosaurus anytime soon" in response to another person expressing a desire for precisely that.

QuoteI haven't requested Torvosaurus every couple of posts.

You've expressed your desire for one many times here over the months.

QuoteAnd again, I'm not indicating that people can't want what they want.  I find it frustrating when one says that a company should make more of what there's already lots of instead of something different that is requested by others.  And again, that the same request is made every couple of posts.  I stand by what I've said and don't believe it's an "unfair accusation".

And I'll state it again: you have every right to be frustrated by other people's desires that don't fit with your own, but it doesn't give you the right to say you hope the former doesn't get fulfilled. And if you do say that, then logically you have no right to be offended when someone says they hope your desire is never fulfilled. It really is that simple, whether you're willing to admit it or not.

QuoteThe CollectA Torvosaurus doesn't have the appearance we now know Torvosaurus had from the Elvis specimen.

And many of the currently existing Carcharodontosaurus toys are wanting for something as well.

QuoteI think what's inconsiderate is to request that Carcharodontosaurus should get priority over something different which actually lacks a good option and doesn't have oversaturation and that it's (carcharodontosaurids) requested every couple of posts, as if that request has more importance than other people's.

As I stated in my earlier post, none of that matters as far as people's personal desires are concerned. I personally couldn't care less about new toys of Carcharodontosaurus or Torvosaurus from Papo or any other company, but I'll always respect anyone else's expressed desire for one. And that's the final word on that.
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Sim

Quote from: suspsy on May 14, 2025, 12:09:51 AMOh, I'm perfectly aware of what bothers you, as are many other members here, but that still remotely doesn't justify you saying "I hope Papo doesn't make Carcharodontosaurus anytime soon" in response to another person expressing a desire for precisely that.
I disagree.

Quote from: suspsy on May 14, 2025, 12:09:51 AMYou've expressed your desire for one many times here over the months.
Perhaps, but that's quite different to every couple of posts.


Quote from: suspsy on May 14, 2025, 12:09:51 AMAnd I'll state it again: you have every right to be frustrated by other people's desires that don't fit with your own, but it doesn't give you the right to say you hope the former doesn't get fulfilled. And if you do say that, then logically you have no right to be offended when someone says they hope your desire is never fulfilled. It really is that simple, whether you're willing to admit it or not.
I haven't expressed being offended by Syndicate Bias saying they hope Papo doesn't make Torvosaurus.  And I'm not offended.  Also, I do believe I have the right to say what I hope doesn't get made if it's appropriate.

Quote from: suspsy on May 14, 2025, 12:09:51 AMAnd many of the currently existing Carcharodontosaurus toys are wanting for something as well.
That doesn't change that the Haolonggood Carcharodontosaurus is excellent and exists.  Torvosaurus doesn't have an accurate representation.  Plus, as I've already expressed there's an oversaturation of carcharodontosaurid figures, as we are typing these posts, there's a new one coming from Haolonggood.  Allosauroids, including carcharodontosaurids, have it better than any other prehistoric animal group when it comes to figures.  I think it's not wrong to express not wanting things to stay like this.

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Pliosaurking

As someone who absolutely adores the animal, I really do hope they make a Carcharodontosaurus! Especially if it looks as good as some of their recent figures.
In the meantime I can't wait for that gorgeous Suchomimus!

SpartanSquat

Animals I really love to see papo to do are megaraptors!
Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

It's always funny to see people arguing about oversaturated Megatheropods, and if it's okay to be openly tired of them or not.

Over9K

Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on May 14, 2025, 06:59:08 AMIt's always funny to see people arguing about oversaturated Megatheropods, and if it's okay to be openly tired of them or not.

Best part is, due to the glacial pace of Papo development, and the fact we've already seen into 2026 with the Feathered rex and the Yangchuanosaurus, we get to have this discussion over and over and over, for maybe two more years!

Flaffy

I just want Papo keep a steady footing on this new path they're taking. The (currently still unreleased!) new for 2024-25 sculpts look really good and I hope they'll continue comissioning this sculptor. I hope they do not work with the sculptor for the Concavenator.

Protopatch

Quote from: Flaffy on May 14, 2025, 01:10:44 PMI hope they'll continue comissioning this sculptor. I hope they do not work with the sculptor for the Concavenator.
The Papo's collaborator told me that they've been working with the same sculptor for several years now and don't intend to change for the moment.


Flaffy

Quote from: CharlieNovember on May 14, 2025, 01:30:22 PM
Quote from: Flaffy on May 14, 2025, 01:10:44 PMI hope they'll continue comissioning this sculptor. I hope they do not work with the sculptor for the Concavenator.
The Papo's collaborator told me that they've been working with the same sculptor for several years now and don't intend to change for the moment.


Bit confused. There's clearly been multiple sculptors working for Papo over the years as evident by the drastically different styles. We know of Mr. Seo, Papo's original(?) prehistorics line sculptor, but they've definitely comissioned a different artist for the following figures:
- Amargasaurus
- Ampelosaurus
- Polacanthus
- Protoceratops
- Concavenator
- Corythosaurus
- Einiosaurus

Jury's still out on the digital sculpts like:
- Suchomimus, Yangchuanosaurus, Feathered rex, Anhanguera, Edmontosaurus
I'm of the opinion that this is a new sculptor. A Mr. Seo's style is more leathery and JP-like.

Protopatch

I wanted to take stock with Papo regarding the Suchomimus before my recovery period and could exchange by phone with them this morning again.
Apparently, their central warehouse will be supplied at the end of the week.
The figures will be first released on the French platforms (Amazon.fr, La Grande Récré, Avenue des Jeux) within a week or 2 of the reception, depending on the platform.
US distributors should follow about 2 weeks later.
A slight delay from what I was told on 6th but Sucho is coming in a few, can't wait !

The 2025 novelties (Anhanguera, feathered Trex, Yangchuanosaurus and Edmontosaurus) are expected to be released around the end of the 3rd quarter of 2025, only if the prototypes successfully complete the various test phases so in my opinion, it would be wiser to expect a date of release in 2026, just in case.
Indeed, they finally admitted it's typically what happened to the Suchomimus, its prototypes didn't pass the test phases on the first time since the little dorsal spikes were either too fragile or too dangerous for children and first didn't correspond to the security standards.


PS : they do work with many sculptors for their various toy lines, but they have been working for many years with the same Korean sculptor for their dinosaur figures.

PPS : they have recently hired a person dedicated to social media who should post on their different accounts (Instagram/Linked/Facebook etc) any information related to new releases.


SidB

 avatar_Protopatch @Protopatch , your reaching out to Papo has given us a window of access to the internal workings of Papo's people that we've never had before. It's a very positive development, for which we must say, "Thank you!".

suspsy

Hopefully the T. rex will pass its tests. It's hardly the first feathered dinosaur Papo has done, although it is clearly the biggest.
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SidB

Quote from: suspsy on May 20, 2025, 01:04:47 PMHopefully the T. rex will pass its tests. It's hardly the first feathered dinosaur Papo has done, although it is clearly the biggest.
I'm looking forward to its eventual appearance too, sooner or later.

SpartanSquat

Thanks for the info protopatch!
So the problem in 2024 and half of 2025 with sucho was the prototype tests? I hope the others wont have any problems.
Mosa and Krono didnt have any problems in the tests?
I remember but the feathered velociraptor was their first feathered dino they did.
Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!

Joliezac

Really helpful information thank you! Can't wait to hopefully have this Sucho in hand by next month

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