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Not used for Contest 2013

Started by Federreptil, August 04, 2013, 12:30:26 PM

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Federreptil

Hello,
as a Greenhorn in this field, I think, it's easier to post the overflow of diorama attempts here, before they must be rejected.
This one has been named 'disturbed family picknick' and is the old theme of a T-Rex family in jurassic park style at the well known prey Triceratops get a visit of a pair of Therizinosaurus clawhands. My wife disliked the white heads. And probably the heroes look a little bit too much like plastic. It is also a well known theme.



The second one shows better the look of plastic:



Gwangi

Very interesting idea and well executed! I love the addition of the pterosaurs in the first picture. One thing I will mention though, Tyrannosaurus and Therizinosaurus did not live together. Your diorama does not have to be accurate for the contest but you're more likely to get votes if it is. Just a suggestion. 

Takama

Quote from: Gwangi on August 04, 2013, 06:34:04 PM
Very interesting idea and well executed! I love the addition of the pterosaurs in the first picture. One thing I will mention though, Tyrannosaurus and Therizinosaurus did not live together. Your diorama does not have to be accurate for the contest but you're more likely to get votes if it is. Just a suggestion.

Maybe pretend that there Tarbosaurus

Federreptil

Dear Gwangi,
Thanks a lot for this suggestion. It is a shame, that there are not this quantity of tarbosaurus figures just like the t-rex. Also a tyrannosaurid it might match better the mongolian landscape. But then the tricerartops will still the false prey. You're right, there is no chance to bring together a correct habitat. So I'm glad this is the unused second set. Hope the real contest-entry will better accepted.

Dear Takama,
the tarbosaurus is still a good idea. But there have to be a killed protoceratops or something else without horns.

Gwangi

No problem and good luck in the contest! If you do need help figuring out who lived when and with what, this is the place to ask those questions.

Libraraptor

#5
First I thought this was just a random assembly of dinosaurs, but then I saw it´s a fight between two different theropod groups for a Ceratopsian carcas. Well done!
Your name makes me guess you´re from a German-speaking country?

Jetoar

Wonderful Image and Diorma. I like to much the composition  ^-^.
[Off Nick and Eddie's reactions to the dinosaurs] Oh yeah "Ooh, aah", that's how it always starts. But then there's running and screaming.



{about the T-Rex) When he sees us with his kid isn't he gonna be like "you"!?

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Federreptil

Thanks a lot for all the encouraging words.
@ Libraraptor
Yes indeed, I'm from Germany. When I'm looking for a forum name, I wonder always how close dinosaurs and birds are now related. My first contact with the dinomania was in my childhood in the seventies. In this time the typical saurus are big, hungry and mostly dull. No surprise, the next step was Jurassic Park with the fast, intelligent and mean she-dinos. After a long break, i started last year a new interesting. And I was surprised, what happened in the research in the last years. First are the dinos with feathers and so one group in the diorama are the mysterious therizinosaurids. Long claws, feathers, patient and probably not to clever. So it's for me more an accidental clash of different styles of living.

Federreptil

As I promised,
I will show here some pictures of the making-of. Especially a rough one before photoshopping because of the intense discussion about the use of Photoshop in the contest contributions.



This is a closed gravel-pit near Hanover in Germany. The lake is ideal for a long distance to the surrounding green. In the other way trees and bushes are always to prominent and big for the small models.



On a dusty little land tongue the heroes are already placed on the top. The herd of struthiomimus are running in front, following of three tyrannosaurids. Above the pteranodons fixed with tiny wires.



Here is base camp in the setting. The backpack holding the poles for the flying saurians. It contains also a first aid set of small binding wire and superglue. A big white linen sunshader is still coiled up.



This is one of many tests at home. Diverse constellations of dinosaurs are assembled in a corner of cardboard. With the smartphone camera are angles tested. One of the favorites is this combination of Gallimimus and T-Rex. But to do Gwangi his right, you have to say Struthiomimus and Gorgosaurus. Is it fair to this models to rename simply the protagonists? I think so, because since last year I collect pictures with all variants of dinosaur models I can find for myself. And you can easy see how much the versions of the same animal differ. At the other hand if you look in the books like the princeton field guide, the dinosauria, the complete dinosaur and so on, you can imagine how small often the real record is for a better knowledge of well-known species. Than you have Jack Horner in the ear: Scientists like to name dinosaurs. All together the difference between the similar named models is much higher than the difference between the fossils near relative species. So for me in the case of dioramas it is more important to find a similar style in the representation of our view to dinosaurs: outdated like the dull ones of my childhood, spectacular but naked like jurassic park twenty years ago, more feathered and modern or cartoonish for the nursery of an ice age generation.



Here is now the rough picture direct from the photo chip. No dust, no clouds but small blurred wires. And a compact herd with less details. I wanted a big picture of big animals in action. Not only a documentary of small model animals. And there are different ways to solve the problem. You can take exquisite one of kind models from specialists far away from a real toy, you can build your own superhero in never seen posture or you can add some effects to make it big. A running herd of 5 m long ornithomimi would disperse a cloud of dust. You will stand as observer in a long distance for respect and than you have a greater view of the sky with more structures. And at last no real pteranodon had a holding wire.



For comparsion here the final result.



And finally an another attempt with a problem with modern plants in the foreground.

Everything_Dinosaur

Very well done to you, really enjoyed the background shots providing clues as to how the finished picture came about.  Most impressive.

Jetoar

You have done a magnificent composition  ^-^.  Well done  ^-^.
[Off Nick and Eddie's reactions to the dinosaurs] Oh yeah "Ooh, aah", that's how it always starts. But then there's running and screaming.



{about the T-Rex) When he sees us with his kid isn't he gonna be like "you"!?

My website: Paleo-Creatures
My website's facebook: Paleo-Creatures

Bokisaurus

Wonderful series, it's always fun to watch the how-to of dioramas . You really put a lot of work on this one, good job. Hope you make more :)

Georassic

Nicely done, and thanks for sharing the backstory. Overall, I'm against using Photoshop to ADD elements to a diorama entry (rather than using it only to clean up an image), but I think you've shown a worthy amount of planning and effort in the diorama and shoot that made your contest win a deserved one. Kudos!


Raptoress

Quote from: Federreptil on August 04, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
Dear Gwangi,
Thanks a lot for this suggestion. It is a shame, that there are not this quantity of tarbosaurus figures just like the t-rex. Also a tyrannosaurid it might match better the mongolian landscape. But then the tricerartops will still the false prey. You're right, there is no chance to bring together a correct habitat. So I'm glad this is the unused second set. Hope the real contest-entry will better accepted.

Dear Takama,
the tarbosaurus is still a good idea. But there have to be a killed protoceratops or something else without horns.

Sorry for replying to an old comment, but didn't tarbosaurus coexist with torosaurus? I might be wrong but I'm sure that somewhere I picked up this bit of info.

Federreptil

Dear Alice the Troodon,

to my recall, the Tarbosaurus Bataar is often compared with the T-Rex and so some authors would think, both could be very strong related, that Tarbosaurus is only the T-rex of Asia. The Tarbosaurus is located in Mongolia and the T-Rex in North America. The Triceratops is also an inhabitant of North American and so you can see often the hard fight between the T-Rex and the Trikes. Jack Horner started a discussion about the Torosaurus, who lived in the same areas and times as the Triceratops. He suggests the Torosaurus is an elder and mature Triceratops because he had not found a younger Torosaurus.

tyrantqueen

Quote from: Federreptil on January 20, 2014, 11:00:05 AM
Dear Alice the Troodon,

to my recall, the Tarbosaurus Bataar is often compared with the T-Rex and so some authors would think, both could be very strong related, that Tarbosaurus is only the T-rex of Asia. The Tarbosaurus is located in Mongolia and the T-Rex in North America. The Triceratops is also an inhabitant of North American and so you can see often the hard fight between the T-Rex and the Trikes. Jack Horner started a discussion about the Torosaurus, who lived in the same areas and times as the Triceratops. He suggests the Torosaurus is an elder and mature Triceratops because he had not found a younger Torosaurus.
A little more than that. Tarbosaurus is more lightly built than Tyrannosaurus rex.

Arul

Wow...i thought that the flying dino is made by photoshop :O hahaha

Federreptil

Dear Arul,
don't worry, my English is bad too! As I showed in the making-of-pictures above the pterosaurs are flying with thin wires. In the rough version of the picture you can see them blurred above the fliers. Of course there is some photoshop in the picture: the wires are erased, the sky is cloudy and there is dust between the running animals.

Arul

Anyway i love your pic,so creative :D

Libraraptor

Federreptil, do you contribute to the contest again this year?!

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