Forum etiquette

[Over9K]

Also, going back through this thread, I was reminded of Killekor and how rude people, including myself, were to them. It made me think about how I've interacted with a similarly young member of the boards. I have to understand that these people should be treated with the same level of patience. It's very unbecoming of someone who wants to be a teacher to act this way with people who are essentially children. Also, what's going on with Killekor, are they still on the forum?

I'd particularly like to extend my apologies to @paintingdinos, who I'm sure encountered some of my more vitriolic posts. And also to P @PumperKrickel, who I've been incredibly rude to multiple times.

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

[PumperKrickel]

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

What assumptions are you talking about?

Is this just you trying to get another jab in after the argument in the Rebor thread? If that's the case, it's not very classy.

[DinoToyForum]

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

What assumptions are you talking about?

Is this just you trying to get another jab in after the argument in the Rebor thread? If that's the case, it's not very classy.

Ironically so in the forum etiquette thread. No personal attacks please, both of you, thanks. The best way to achieve that, in this case, is not to respond to each other any more. Thanks! 

[Loon]

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

Oh god, what are you talking about? There are literally four members mentioned in that quote.

[PumperKrickel]

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

What assumptions are you talking about?

Is this just you trying to get another jab in after the argument in the Rebor thread? If that's the case, it's not very classy.

Ironically so in the forum etiquette thread. No personal attacks please, both of you, thanks. The best way to achieve that, in this case, is not to respond to each other any more. Thanks! 

What specifically did I write that qualifies as a personal attack???

[Loon]

All PumperKrickel did was call an assumed action "not very classy".

[PumperKrickel]

@dinotoyforum
I don´t feel like I personally attacked anyone and I think it´s unfortunate how you pop in, make a quick accusation like this and then log off. I try my absolute best to be respectful and friendly towards everybody, that includes sticking up for other members in my opinion. I would have written the exact same thing, regardless of who it was. This forum and how we interact with each other means something to me, so if I see someone trying to pick a fight, I will call them out on it. That is neither an attack, nor is it personal.
The accusation of a personal attack is very serious to me, it is a breach of rule 1 after all, an "offense which will result in an immediate ban", according to the rules. So I ask you to either give me the ban you think I deserve or take back this accusation towards me.

[postsaurischian]

 I understood Dr. Admin's post as rather prophylactic than as an accusation .
And I can see why - looking at all that upcoming pointless struggling in other threads lately.

[Stegotyranno420]

Honestly, im just pissed at the world. It always seems like everyone just hates each other. They will threaten to kill you just because you said dogs are stronger than cats. they will start protests because of accidental phrasing. They will begin arson because you have a different opinion. They call you a backwards creationist without any background info, all because you believe in God. What the actual HELL! Its everywhere. It always seems like people are trying to find a way to make you pissed. We are complex enough to engage in warfare and fights, but too simple to do something actually good. Now not all of us can do good. Some of us dont have what they need. Not everyone can risk their life to join in your protest. That doesnt make them a coward or a hater, they just have other things to worry about. Hopefully our species gets through this stage of evolution, and actually become something good. There are so many things wrong with humans, sometimes, i actually wish God told me" Hey kid, go build a boat, we are doing part 2 (of course, i do not believe in the Noah's ark story, and the way it worked is very unrealistic, no offense to fellow religious members here). I always dream that i was in a beautiful beach or in calm meadows and hills. But then i hear they are burning houses because those families support the arsonist's opposition.  So if humans want to be like this, sure, go ahead, just f**K me and take me into heaven where i could ride a Rajasaurus with Otto Von Bismarck while shooting hoops with George Washington and God.

[PumperKrickel]

I understood Dr. Admin's post as rather prophylactic than as an accusation

Maybe it was meant to be that, which is exactly why I would prefer him to stick around for a minute to clarify. As it stands I can´t help but feel unfairly targeted. Especially since other threads were pretty much on fire today, yet he said nothing.

Honestly, im just pissed at the world. It always seems like everyone just hates each other. They will threaten to kill you just because you said dogs are stronger than cats. they will start protests because of accidental phrasing. They will begin arson because you have a different opinion. They call you a backwards creationist without any background info, all because you believe in God. What the actual HELL! Its everywhere. It always seems like people are trying to find a way to make you pissed. We are complex enough to engage in warfare and fights, but too simple to do something actually good. Now not all of us can do good. Some of us dont have what they need. Not everyone can risk their life to join in your protest. That doesnt make them a coward or a hater, they just have other things to worry about. Hopefully our species gets through this stage of evolution, and actually become something good. There are so many things wrong with humans, sometimes, i actually wish God told me" Hey kid, go build a boat, we are doing part 2 (of course, i do not believe in the Noah's ark story, and the way it worked is very unrealistic, no offense to fellow religious members here). I always dream that i was in a beautiful beach or in calm meadows and hills. But then i hear they are burning houses because those families support the arsonist's opposition.  So if humans want to be like this, sure, go ahead, just f**K me and take me into heaven where i could ride a Rajasaurus with Otto Von Bismarck while shooting hoops with George Washington and God.

My advice to you would be to focus on the people who help. Don´t focus on the arsonists, focus on the firefighters.

[Stegotyranno420]

I understood Dr. Admin's post as rather prophylactic than as an accusation

Maybe it was meant to be that, which is exactly why I would prefer him to stick around for a minute to clarify. As it stands I can´t help but feel unfairly targeted. Especially since other threads were pretty much on fire today, yet he said nothing.

When i got in a certain scuffle with a member, he told me to stop being rude to that member, even though i thought i was right and that other member was wrong. I didnt argue, and certainly didn't want to risk being banned. so i took that blame. Dr. Smith doesn't mean it that way, he is not a judge, he is an admin who also wants everyone to be happy, i took all the blame and we are still great friends, and he will still always be our great friend.

P @PumperKrickel i love that advice, but how can you trust a fire fighter when you cannot see him, or even know he exists, in the sea of arsonists? Trust me, looking on the good things just makes you a sitting duck , in a world of bad things. If everyone looked at the tiny good, we'd be  okay, but the fools, the idiots, the tools, the freaks, the whiners, the "i hate your opinion"ers, they bleach this lucious world of its goodness.

[Syndicate Bias]

I'm not a very confrontive person. Not unless at a breaking point I have alot of space to fill to get there. That being said this forum has always been a rather comfortable spot on the internet compared to anything else since it's essentially the wild west out there.

I stated my honest views earlier yesterday of some things that sort of get at me but past that I dislike to argue so that's all I'll ever say past that.

@dinotoyforum is among the fairest people here when it comes to judgement. Yea sometimes one can look back and say maybe some things could've been warnings or some people should've been perma banned but one cannot blame the moderation here since they're just trying to keep this forum as friendly as possible and it's something that I admire about the community here.

[DinoToyForum]

I "pop in" because I have other things going on in my life, important things, personal things. I'm not following all the forum threads so I don't know about any other rule-breaking behaviour, I'm responding only to posts that have been flagged. My comment was a polite request for two arguing members to refrain from an increasingly aggressive back and forth that was clearly getting out of hand. From what I see above the following rules have now been broken by P @PumperKrickel :

1. No intentional personal attacks, rudeness, or personal provocation.
4. Respect designated topic areas (categories and threads) and moderator requests.

... if I see someone trying to pick a fight, I will call them out on it. That is neither an attack, nor is it personal.

Don't call them out on it, that is absolutely a personal attack in my book. The proper reaction when you see someone you think is breaking a forum rule is to file a moderator report, not go all gung-ho yourself. This isn't Twitter.

So, I'm banning P @PumperKrickel temporarily from posting while I ask the other moderators to also take a look at this thread to make sure the punishments fit the crimes.

[Over9K]

I think it's interesting, and a bit telling, that you base how you view a member on assumptions you're making.

Oh god, what are you talking about? There are literally four members mentioned in that quote.

I believe you make assumptions about the members of this forum you are interacting with, and then act on those assumptions. This is indicated by you calling other members "younger" and then differentiating how you interact with them. Try interacting with other members as though they were EQUALS.

[Over9K]

All PumperKrickel did was call an assumed action "not very classy".

See? He made an assumption, and then acted on it. Lots of that going around. Lots of gatekeeperism, lots of clique-ish crap too.

[Loon]

@Over9K There's very clearly no middle ground here. But, let me say this.

If you correctly read what that quote you found "interesting" and "telling" said, I only mentioned the fact that both members are younger because of the similarity of the situation. I know Killekor and StegoTyranno are young, younger than me at least. So, I mentioned that because I feel it's important to consider when talking to these people. If a 35-year-old said some of the stuff they have, you would react differently. But, they're not 35, I don't even believe either of them is past 15, so I don't treat them the same way, obviously. When people are younger you have to have a level of patience and understanding; they're still developing and working out ideas, even more so than the rest of us. I don't see how you can view that as some sort of inequity, if anything, it gives them the same level of respect as everyone else.

I find it pretty funny how you seem to think everyone else makes these assumptions, and yet, you are perfectly content to do the same. You say PumperKrickel made an assumption and acted on it. But he only referred to his idea of what you were doing as hypothetical, he even said "if"; he didn't treat it as what you were actually doing. So, isn't thinking he meant it to be true an assumption? And sure, we had our spat in the Rebor thread, which I apologized for (read the thread); but I've mostly moved past that. Still, I have been thinking an awful lot about that post where you made all those assumptions about me. Not to say I didn't do the same, I clearly did; but I can't seem to understand where you'd get the idea that Rebor hurt me in some way and that my constant trolling was revenge. If you really knew anything about me, you'd more accurately guess it was because I get bored quickly, and Rebor is fun to make fun of (not a good habit, I know). Yeah sure, it's bad to make assumptions about people, but you seem to do it an awful lot.

I don't know, I doubt this means anything to you. But, for the sanity of this forum, let's stop talking.

[suspsy]

@Loon, he's been banned for 14 days because of what he wrote in the REBOR forum.

[Stegotyranno420]

I feel like it should be mandatory to state one's age on the forum, I had no idea that @Stegotyranno is 13-year-old minor until a few days ago and that also made me drastically change the way I view his actions.
That said I forgive you for that one situation, you couldn't have known and I thought you were 30-something.

Speficics? (pm me)

[Stegotyranno420]

@Stegotyranno An older person has more life experience, it is normal and okay to make mistakes at your age, I did a ton of mistakes too as a teenager that I look back at with embarrassment but that is part of growing up.
You learn from mistakes, and those mistakes make you more experienced, thus from an older person one would expect to not repeat those mistakes but you are still growing up and learning so it is okay.

i know, but can you show me a example of me making mistakes.

[Stegotyranno420]

S @Stolpergeist to be fair, that is a very normal question, and i had no idea you'd be offended/ uncomfortable with that.  That was the first time something like this happended. That is not making a mistake, its just a miscommunication.

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