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Started by Dan, February 23, 2015, 08:43:21 PM

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stargatedalek

The sad part for me is that there is plenty of room to differentiate megalodon from modern sharks, and yet no-one ever does. Megalodon despite the stereotype wasn't out eating humpback sized animals, it was living in coastal waters eating pinnipeds and smaller (largest 23 ft) cetaceans. This sort of niche, such a large predatory animal in relatively coastal areas hunting prey much smaller than itself, allows for a great deal of speculation. Would it need the same open ocean camouflage as the great white? perhaps not. If it was maneuvering right up close to the show it might have had enlarged pectoral fins for making decisive turns. Perhaps it was more ambush dedicated than a great white and a mottled colouration would have helped it? All of these and other questions will most likely never be answered, but most people won't even think to ask them because they think its just a scaled up great white from the get-go.


Blade-of-the-Moon

Has anyone ever tried a replica that made Meg look like a Sand Shark? I recall hearing that theory awhile back but seems to have been ignored.

Speaking of Meg, I'm everyone's heard of Steve Alten's book by now..seems it may be getting movie interest again. We could see more Meg replicas soon.

Gwangi

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Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on June 26, 2015, 06:25:53 PM
Has anyone ever tried a replica that made Meg look like a Sand Shark? I recall hearing that theory awhile back but seems to have been ignored.

Speaking of Meg, I'm everyone's heard of Steve Alten's book by now..seems it may be getting movie interest again. We could see more Meg replicas soon.

With the success of JW I wouldn't be surprised if we had a sudden surge of prehistoric monster movies. Ideally it would lead to a movie adaptation of "Raptor Red" but that's doubtful, and they would probably screw it up.

I recall hearing the sandtiger hypothesis for megalodon as well though it doesn't seem to have gained much attention over the years. I believe its mostly speculative with no real evidence to back it up. Still would be nice to have a model depicting it as such, if only for some variety.


http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/evolution/megalodon_as_sandtiger.htm

SBell

Quote from: Gwangi on June 26, 2015, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on June 26, 2015, 06:25:53 PM
Has anyone ever tried a replica that made Meg look like a Sand Shark? I recall hearing that theory awhile back but seems to have been ignored.

Speaking of Meg, I'm everyone's heard of Steve Alten's book by now..seems it may be getting movie interest again. We could see more Meg replicas soon.

With the success of JW I wouldn't be surprised if we had a sudden surge of prehistoric monster movies. Ideally it would lead to a movie adaptation of "Raptor Red" but that's doubtful, and they would probably screw it up.

I recall hearing the sandtiger hypothesis for megalodon as well though it doesn't seem to have gained much attention over the years. I believe its mostly speculative with no real evidence to back it up. Still would be nice to have a model depicting it as such, if only for some variety.


http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/evolution/megalodon_as_sandtiger.htm

Honestly, every depiction of C. megalodon, other than the teeth, is speculation of some kind. I am thinking that it doesn't help that the linked article tries to make the unhelpful connection between C. megalodon-as-sandtiger with T.rex-as-scavenger (major point of refutation--what, then, is the large or even medium-sized predator in the ecosystem?).

I don't really follow this closely, but if it is the case that the body shape of a sand tiger or crocodile shark is plesiomorphic, then it would be parsimonius to use that as a starting point. I remember reading an article several years ago that tooth shape in sharks was not a necessarily reliable indicator of relationships or dietary habit; if that is the case, then those teeth could belong to a shark of any reasonable morphology (angel shark or wobbegong just don't make sense...yet) with any reasonable lifestyle (probably not a filter feeder).

Or, of course, until real evidence appears somehow. I recall waaaaayyyy back in the early days, on DTF1, we had a member that claimed to know about some mind-blowing, world-changing C. megalodon finds that...we never heard anything further about. It's too bad, because maybe they were real and useful? Or maybe it was a Discovery Channel exec laying groundwork for a dumb TV show.

Gwangi

Quote from: SBell on June 26, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
Honestly, every depiction of C. megalodon, other than the teeth, is speculation of some kind.

Well yeah, that's a given. I suppose based on tooth morphology there is stronger support for a relationship with other Lamnidae but as you said, the tooth morphology could indicate nothing.

QuoteI am thinking that it doesn't help that the linked article tries to make the unhelpful connection between C. megalodon-as-sandtiger with T.rex-as-scavenger (major point of refutation--what, then, is the large or even medium-sized predator in the ecosystem?).

I noticed that as well. In the defense of the article, it was written by an ichthyologist who specializes in sharks, not a paleontologist. It's also quite an old article, I recall reading it in 2000 or 2001 originally, unfortunately the site creator and author of most of its content passed several years ago.  :( The site itself is one of the best on sharks on the web and worth browsing.


SBell

Quote from: Gwangi on June 26, 2015, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: SBell on June 26, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
Honestly, every depiction of C. megalodon, other than the teeth, is speculation of some kind.

Well yeah, that's a given. I suppose based on tooth morphology there is stronger support for a relationship with other Lamnidae but as you said, the tooth morphology could indicate nothing.

QuoteI am thinking that it doesn't help that the linked article tries to make the unhelpful connection between C. megalodon-as-sandtiger with T.rex-as-scavenger (major point of refutation--what, then, is the large or even medium-sized predator in the ecosystem?).

I noticed that as well. In the defense of the article, it was written by an ichthyologist who specializes in sharks, not a paleontologist. It's also quite an old article, I recall reading it in 2000 or 2001 originally, unfortunately the site creator and author of most of its content passed several years ago.  :( The site itself is one of the best on sharks on the web and worth browsing.

I am aware of the site, but did not know that the site author has passed, it's a great site, but the date might indicate why some things are not up to date.

Still, it would be nice if that particular topic were picked up--CollectA is pretty good with out-of-the-box designs.

Gwangi

Quote from: SBell on June 26, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
I am aware of the site, but did not know that the site author has passed, it's a great site, but the date might indicate why some things are not up to date.

Still, it would be nice if that particular topic were picked up--CollectA is pretty good with out-of-the-box designs.

He passed in 2007, R. Aidan Martin. He helped me identify a bunch of fossil shark teeth when I was younger and I ate up just about that entire site back in 00-01. So yeah, the content is a bit dated now. I'm just happy the site is still up and running. I loved reading his recommended reading list and am happy to report that I do own most of the titles for which he gave the best reviews.

Really there is no reason NOT to do some more speculative takes on megalodon, CollectA would indeed be a good option. I don't own any meg. figures simply because they all look like white sharks.


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stargatedalek

I'd love to see CollectA's take on a megalodon, this might be something to write up and recommend to them someday. ;)

The Favorite Kinto megalodon is incredibly well sculpted, even with its cliche paint app. Who knows, I might end up getting this one as a white shark.

Gwangi

Quote from: stargatedalek on June 26, 2015, 10:55:28 PM
The Favorite Kinto megalodon is incredibly well sculpted, even with its cliche paint app. Who knows, I might end up getting this one as a white shark.

I would probably make an exception for the Favorite model. I am a casual shark toy collector as well so it would be only appropriate. By casual I mean very casual, I have 5 sharks figures.

stargatedalek

I'm a generalist (AKA non mammals + cetaceans :P ), so I already have a lot of sharks, but the "classic" top predators are not ones I would normally get unless they were exceptional pieces.

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I'm kinda unsure about this one. On one hand it is a great-looking model, bjt I'm worried that it might break during shipping.
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That's the thing with these models, their so delicate.
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Still it's very nice.

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Gwangi

Favorite would probably be my favorite company if they would just make their more obscure dinosaurs more widely available. I hate getting teased by all these awesome exclusives! And what few dinosaurs they've made that are widely available we only get the same selection of common species, and then we get re-sulpts of those same species, and then repaints. Come on favorite! I want to love you!

Halichoeres

Quote from: Gwangi on July 13, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
Favorite would probably be my favorite company if they would just make their more obscure dinosaurs more widely available. I hate getting teased by all these awesome exclusives! And what few dinosaurs they've made that are widely available we only get the same selection of common species, and then we get re-sulpts of those same species, and then repaints. Come on favorite! I want to love you!

Seconded. I would rather have the Tarbosaurus and Saurolophus than all those repaints of Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus. Even the expanded prehistoric life series doesn't show a great deal more daring, just reworking the standard fare (although, I must admit, beautifully).
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Quote from: CityRaptor on July 13, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
I'm kinda unsure about this one. On one hand it is a great-looking model, bjt I'm worried that it might break during shipping.

I'm worried it will never come out in the west (and will be released in scant quantities), because Favorite doesn't really have much faith in the strength of their products (the obscure species, I mean). Favorite made some of the best representations of Ankylosaurus, Styracosaurus and Plesiosaurus in the market....but to be honest, we have a ton of these anyways...Why is Favorite depriving the world of Turiasaurus, Concavenator, Saurolophus and Tarbosaurus? Why not take a risk? I don't want v4. v5. T rex.

tanystropheus

Quote from: Gwangi on July 13, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
Favorite would probably be my favorite company if they would just make their more obscure dinosaurs more widely available. I hate getting teased by all these awesome exclusives! And what few dinosaurs they've made that are widely available we only get the same selection of common species, and then we get re-sulpts of those same species, and then repaints. Come on favorite! I want to love you!

I totally agree. I recently picked up Ankylosaurus and Styraco. Amazing sculpts. The Ankylo surpasses the Carnegie version, and the Styraco is easily on par with the Papo. Favorite has the potential to be one of my...err...favorite dinosaur companies (despite, their sometimes questionable color schemes)...sigh...but it will never happen due to logistic reasons  :-\ and annoying museum exclusive nonsense.

sauroid

Quote from: tanystropheus on July 14, 2015, 06:43:00 AM
Quote from: Gwangi on July 13, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
Favorite would probably be my favorite company if they would just make their more obscure dinosaurs more widely available. I hate getting teased by all these awesome exclusives! And what few dinosaurs they've made that are widely available we only get the same selection of common species, and then we get re-sulpts of those same species, and then repaints. Come on favorite! I want to love you!

I totally agree. I recently picked up Ankylosaurus and Styraco. Amazing sculpts. The Ankylo surpasses the Carnegie version, and the Styraco is easily on par with the Papo. Favorite has the potential to be one of my...err...favorite dinosaur companies (despite, their sometimes questionable color schemes)...sigh...but it will never happen due to logistic reasons  :-\ and annoying museum exclusive nonsense.
they'd be even better if they make their figures in 1:40 scale, and make more obscure species.
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