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Started by Blade-of-the-Moon, March 13, 2012, 06:31:07 PM

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Blade-of-the-Moon

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It seems the engineering part of my brain and the biological one caused the problem then, ( one wants strength and rigidity, the other natural appearance.

I was looking at David's Spino when he was considering  a sitting model :  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/359513982726773955/

There may be a little fudgery going on around the pelvis, but I'll try redrawing the tail tonight laying down and see where it goes. It might relax the hip muscles a bit too.


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stargatedalek

The skeletal structure seems fine here, but there should be enough meat on the tail for it to be flush with the ground where it meets the hips. Your earlier one where it was almost sitting upright is most in-line with what we see in birds so I'd go with that one.

Blade-of-the-Moon

I actually added a bit of thickness to bring it down that much from Scott's skeletal.  Looking at the Safari figure as well there is a definite rise between the space from pelvis to the tail.  I could smooth that out but would it be correct? I can't find any references for it.

The problem I have with this one :


..is it doesn't do/show what I'm after.  A top predator not just being vicious but a caring parent.   From an engineering stand point it also puts the head at about the same height as when it is upright standing.  Making me need scaffolding, ect.     It works and is plausible for sure, I recall an couple older GSP pieces of art that featured it.


stargatedalek

#3244
The pubic boot is a perfect example of why we can't base everything about dinosaur anatomy on birds. For a long time reconstructions have been trying to show it off as if it was some kind of counterweight, but it should be encased in muscle and flesh. A more likely reconstruction is where the hips flow seamlessly into the base of the tail, especially in larger theropods which have proportionally shallower boots. In birds the muscles themselves are not atrophied but actively reformed pretty much to the point of being replaced by entirely new structures.

Either way I'd imagine it's within reason to have it be a fair bit more slouched over than that without needing to lift the base of the tail off the ground, and of course to bend the neck lower.

Blade-of-the-Moon

#3245
I've been viewing the hips and pretty much the  entire pubic area as inflexible.  I can see where the tail would lower now thanks to help given here,  if the backbone was to lower as well I'm not sure where the bones of the chest would go?   The neck was lower and more out stretched in Scott's original skeletal design, I just pulled it up and back into more of an "S" curve to get it about 5' off the ground, I'm thinking just enough to watch her  surroundings while resting/watching the chicks. 

Scott's original is a bit old I guess, 2013, but better than GSP's.



Here is the rough placement of the tail bones currently, I really wish I had a digital program for manipulating these..


Blade-of-the-Moon

While talking to dino artist Frank Lode on facebook ( we're attempting similar poses in our art ) and Scott Hartman popped in and gave his approval of my last sketch, awesome!

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Lanthanotus

Hehe, nice one, Blade. Personally I'd bulk out the tail a bit as it looks a bit light/skinny to me to be an appropriate counterweight for the front body. But that's just me and may be an optical illusion.

Blade-of-the-Moon

i did add about 6-7" i think , of flesh to Scott's skeletal's tail.   Looking over this article https://archosaurmusings.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/guest-post-bulking-up-the-back-end-why-tyrannosaurus-tail-mass-matters/  i should be good. 

more like this :


not this:

Neosodon

Interesting article. Sounds similar to something I heard about Carnotorus in which they knew it was a fast dinosaur as it had a thick tail base.

"3,000 km to the south, the massive comet crashes into Earth. The light from the impact fades in silence. Then the shock waves arrive. Next comes the blast front. Finally a rain of molten rock starts to fall out of the darkening sky - this is the end of the age of the dinosaurs. The Comet struck the Gulf of Mexico with the force of 10 billion Hiroshima bombs. And with the catastrophic climate changes that followed 65% of all life died out. It took millions of years for the earth to recover but when it did the giant dinosaurs were gone - never to return." - WWD

Blade-of-the-Moon

Had this awesome puppet version of Little Al donated to us, my plan is to use him for advertising the Park just gotta  figure out how to do it..my arm only goes about half way inside.  Any ideas?





ZoPteryx

Cool puppet!  I suppose you could rig up something similar to one of those grabber-claw toys so you don't have to reach as far, but that'd probably require access to the inside of its head and your mobility would be limited.

Blade-of-the-Moon



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Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: ceratopsian on January 21, 2018, 09:55:58 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on January 21, 2018, 12:52:40 AM
custom flying dimorphodon
That looks really good!

Thank you, was a total pain in the rear! lol  Took about 3 days to do.  I tried using all the parts and modifying them, would have been easier to just sculpt new ones.

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Katieraptor

That little Al puppet is totally something I want in my life. You said it was donated? Are there any for sale by the creator?

Also, yay! Dimorphodon. That looks fantastic!
What I love about Allosaurus is that it lived an extremely violent life that was rife with broken bones, cuts, scrapes, infections, sprains, and yet it just kept on truckin.

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Katieraptor

That's so awesome! I love it.
What I love about Allosaurus is that it lived an extremely violent life that was rife with broken bones, cuts, scrapes, infections, sprains, and yet it just kept on truckin.

My Art

Blade-of-the-Moon


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