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Started by Blade-of-the-Moon, March 13, 2012, 06:31:07 PM

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I guess it's up to the artist's interpretation on the horn size really.  I did some really long ones for my Stygimoloch for example.

My measurements are scaled down a bit of course, so this wouldn't be an adult animal, ( if the fossil we do have is an adult ) . They make sense to me more or less, mine's head may be an inch or two wider. It's about 22" long in top view.  Animals can be slightly different so an inch here or there doesn't bother me a whole lot.

I did add the " beak " or sheath to the upper jaw,,it's taken me two working periods over the course of a couple days. I think it looks pretty good, but you guys can judge for yourself.





..and the Sucho head in progress :



wings

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on April 26, 2013, 02:34:20 AM
Are you sure that works out right ?

If say Carpenter's above view Anky's head was 24" then the widest part of the body works out to be more like 38" ?  Not at all double the width of the head.. :?

I've just double checked the Brown's paper; on page 201 Brown stated that the skull width, posterior end (back end of the skull, including the horn cores, no keratin) is approximately 700 mm whereas the maximum width of the body is 1650 mm. And you would end up of the body being 2.35 times of the head width and this is in agreement with his illustration so I think the diagram is quite decent. I've also had a quick look into Carpenter's; I think his fleshed out version is based on a composite of different specimens (these specimens are of different sizes as well, and plenty of scaling skeletal elements involved) rather than just one as in Brown's. That might be the main reason why Carparter's have a narrower front than Brown's. As for the "beak" (please see below):



Perhaps I shouldn't be using the term "beak" here because it seems to confuse people here. Though when we use the term "beak" for hadrosaurians; no one (at least I don't think there is anyone) on this forum would assume that we are talking about a "pointy" structure...  :)

Blade-of-the-Moon

Crap. So I really shouldn't have used Carpenter's design then ?  I'm at a point I'm not sure how much I can change on the body frame work.  :/

Ah, I went with a very slight point there as it seemed to make more sense to me . The " beak " itself  is keratin right ? It didn't preserve ? So  I was thinking of turtles..many have pointed " beaks " if only slightly on top of a flatter bone structure.  If it really isn't possible I can cut the little tip off and round it.

wings

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Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on April 26, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
Crap. So I really shouldn't have used Carpenter's design then ?  I'm at a point I'm not sure how much I can change on the body frame work.  :/

Ah, I went with a very slight point there as it seemed to make more sense to me . The " beak " itself  is keratin right ? It didn't preserve ? So  I was thinking of turtles..many have pointed " beaks " if only slightly on top of a flatter bone structure.  If it really isn't possible I can cut the little tip off and round it.
I don't think it is necessary a big issue even if you are using Carpenter's since that was based on his study and probably there is info on his paper to back up his calculation (though yours is slightly different to his). I have no idea since I haven't read through his paper yet and even if I did I could only look at what has been published on his paper anyway. I don't have access to the actual material to see if his scaling is correct (mind you even if the photos on the specimen are the wrong scale I would still have no way of verifying this). In saying this, I'm not claiming that what Carpenter did is wrong (merely just a possibility since I'm sure that the composite is based on animals of different ages so body proportion could be slightly different in each). I can see that you've probably gone too far to make any major changes anyway so just stick with it and finish it off. If anyone asked you can always refer them to Carpenter's...

It is hard to prove whether their "beaks" would taper to a point; so the only one thing that I would say is that in "beaked" turtles their head shape tends to be tapering towards the mouth (see http://campus.murraystate.edu/academic/faculty/tderting/anatomyatlas/seaturtleskullamy-becky.html) which could possibly look different to Ankylosaurus's since it is broad all the way.

Blade-of-the-Moon

I bulked up the shoulder area today and I think it looks a lot better now, I'm attaching the head as well. I'll chop off the pointy bit of the beak I guess tomorrow weather permitting.  In the mean time tonight I will be doing work on the Sucho head.

Weaver

Holy moly, the Stygi looks incredible! Blade, I love the scales on the feet and wow, they look amazing completed. <3

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Weaver on April 29, 2013, 01:44:25 AM
Holy moly, the Stygi looks incredible! Blade, I love the scales on the feet and wow, they look amazing completed. <3

Thanks bud, I'm glad you like him !   He's currently getting used to his new area while we work on it..lot's of landscaping to do there still.

I'm also about done with the basic frame for the Suchomimus while the Anky is still being coated with his first vinyl layer.

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Sucho frame :



Anky progress :



Random pics :





Seijun

That para is amazing. My favorite.
My living room smells like old plastic dinosaur toys... Better than air freshener!

Jetoar

[Off Nick and Eddie's reactions to the dinosaurs] Oh yeah "Ooh, aah", that's how it always starts. But then there's running and screaming.



{about the T-Rex) When he sees us with his kid isn't he gonna be like "you"!?

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Weaver

Oh wow new pictures! Heehee! I'll bet the Para's are awful in the morning. XD

Blade-of-the-Moon

Thank you Seijun, means a lot coming from such a fan of them as yourself. :)

Thanks Jetoar..I'm doing my best..I really like Sucho's..the underdog of Spinosaurus..lol

You've no idea ! She's so happy about her new baby and wants to let EVERYONE know it ! ;D


Dan

Killer work, Chris. Is it okay if I feature a few photos over on FB sometime?

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  200.00 and a ton of luck and work later our new water feature is shaping up :


More rare pics of our Stygimoloch wandering the Park :




Suchomimus progress :

Anky progress :


Blade-of-the-Moon

Thinking of purchasing this for the Dinosaur Park, with some work it could awesome I think. It's 80lbs, 6' long, 4'9" tall , and 3' wide. So what do you guys think ?


Simon

Wow.  And its unfinished, so you should try to drive a hard bargain.  You would do a great job of finishing it ... of course, then you would have to build a life-sized TRex ... I bet that would drive the visitor numbers up!

Gryphoceratops

Would you build an entire body for it?  Or would you have it methodically placed coming out of the bushes or something?  Either way it looks cool and since its unfinished you could put your artistic touch on it. 

Takama

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I have an idea. I think you should make a story how your T-Rex has Died, and you Mounted his head so people could see his face, while the rest of the body is buried some where in the Park, (you can evean put a fake tombstone for it)

The Suchy  is looking promising with the pose, you could put it in a pond, and make it chase a fish or two

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