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Schleich New for 2017

Started by Takama, July 25, 2016, 08:53:47 PM

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Shonisaurus

The utahraptor is pretty badly done is my honest opinion, this no longer speculate around what a dinosaur was like Papo does with some of his figures (by the way bright) is simply a very badly made figure.

As for kentrosaurus 2017 I have clear hopes that will be as good as his Schleich counterpart. Unfortunately Schleich's theropod figures have been and are not bright, although they are intended primarily for younger children.


Derek.McManus

It's a very weak figure Schliech's output this very has not been very inspiring to say the least.

Sigmasaurus

Quote from: Derek.McManus on February 27, 2017, 07:46:21 PM
It's a very weak figure Schliech's output this very has not been very inspiring to say the least.

100% Agree

GasmaskMax

Eh, I think people underrate Schleich and both feed off and use hatred from other people to bash it. The thing is Schleich doesn't hold itself to impressive scientific standards, so really its just a toy company, and by those standards its dinosaurs are pretty high on the list. And besides, they must be doing something right when they are among the top 4 most commonly discussed manufacturers on this forum! I dunno, Schleich just has this charm to it and im really not that bothered by its scientific flaws, so im looking forward to bying at least some of the new releases.

The Atroxious

Quote from: GasmaskMax on February 28, 2017, 02:14:12 AM
Eh, I think people underrate Schleich and both feed off and use hatred from other people to bash it. The thing is Schleich doesn't hold itself to impressive scientific standards, so really its just a toy company, and by those standards its dinosaurs are pretty high on the list. And besides, they must be doing something right when they are among the top 4 most commonly discussed manufacturers on this forum! I dunno, Schleich just has this charm to it and im really not that bothered by its scientific flaws, so im looking forward to bying at least some of the new releases.

Honestly, I agree. I personally dislike Schleich's extinct animals, but I think they're on par with Safari when it comes to extant animals. I'm not above ridiculing their more questionable design choices, but the same goes for any toy line, including the current darling of many toy collectors, Beasts of the Mesozoic. I do think a lot of the criticisms of Schleich reach a hyperbolic level, however, such as when people say they're irredeemable, which I find hard to believe given the overall quality of their other figures. The way I see it, Schleich happened to hire a sculptor for their extinct line who just phones it in. I doubt it's a big deal for the upper management since the public at large doesn't take dinosaur toys very seriously, and will buy them regardless of inaccuracy. In the instance that Schleich got a better, more knowledgeable sculptor who cared about accuracy, I believe the look of the extinct animals line would be vastly improved. In a case like this, the company as a whole is not so much at fault than whoever designs the toys in the first place.

sauroid

#445
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

and i doubt the company higher ups really care whether the artist/s they hire to create the prehistoric line produce accurate/pleasing final products as long as they still sell like the proverbial hotcakes. why bother with the effort at all when they will eventually sell out anyway?
"you know you have a lot of prehistoric figures if you have at least twenty items per page of the prehistoric/dinosaur section on ebay." - anon.

Sigmasaurus

Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

I think Schleich's old Dinosaurs AND Modern day animals are better than the dinosaurs Schleich does today.

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sauroid

Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

I think Schleich's old Dinosaurs AND Modern day animals are better than the dinosaurs Schleich does today.
that's my point
"you know you have a lot of prehistoric figures if you have at least twenty items per page of the prehistoric/dinosaur section on ebay." - anon.

Sigmasaurus

Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

I think Schleich's old Dinosaurs AND Modern day animals are better than the dinosaurs Schleich does today.
that's my point

Than I agree with you. O:-)

Halichoeres

I will definitely concede that their extant stuff is as good as anybody's (okay, except like Kaiyodo and Yujin and the like).
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Takama

The Reason i buy there Current Dinosaurs is because i never had the chance to buy there old ones when they were easily  avalible (and Faily Priced) on the internet.

However if i known that the 2016 models was a sort of Reboot to the line I would of stoped.   But alas, i boght the Dilophosaurus before i found out, and so Im buying there newer releases.   The only thing that more then Irks me about this companey is the fact that they put Small Species like Comsognathus and Microraptor in big and Expensive sets and force you to buy those if you really want them (meaning they are not sold seperatly) 

That does not mean I will not Give a negative review to a model.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 04:34:00 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

I think Schleich's old Dinosaurs AND Modern day animals are better than the dinosaurs Schleich does today.
that's my point

Than I agree with you. O:-)

Of course his figures from the Humbold Museum in Berlin were better. Their brachiosaurus and apatosaurus were superior to the present figures. True and true they were very prone to abrasions from accidental falls.

On the other hand I have to recognize that today's Schleich figures are more resistant to accidental falls of a shelf to blows and abrasions, although as has been commented they have fallen a lot in quality. From time to time they make some good figure as is the case of kentrosaurus although it is also true that a self-criticism should be done when the figures of Schleich are the most sold and marketed worldwide.

As for extinct animals it is true that they are not what I like (a follower of palaeontological figures based on the Paleontological representation) would wish but it is also true that they make figures of wild animals and marine animals quite good.

As for the theropod dinosaurs is perhaps for Schleich the "black beast" in its production of dinosaurs. It has always been even with the Humbold Museum but this year as the utahraptor without encouragement to offend the followers of Schleich seems a rather careless figure sincerely I do not understand how they make dragons and fantastic animals of Bayala quite acceptable and do not make theropods (Being real animals) more graceful.

Sigmasaurus

Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 28, 2017, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 04:34:00 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
Quote from: SpinoLord on February 28, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
Quote from: sauroid on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 AM
i still buy and appreciate Schleich's modern animal figures and i used to buy the brand's older prehistoric figures (and the two or three recent ones), but you cant deny the fact that their recent prehistoric figures are ridiculous and instead if improving, they just keep going downhill in terms of aesthetic value. why waste money on these things when there are other, much worthwhile brands to support?

I think Schleich's old Dinosaurs AND Modern day animals are better than the dinosaurs Schleich does today.
that's my point

Than I agree with you. O:-)

Of course his figures from the Humbold Museum in Berlin were better. Their brachiosaurus and apatosaurus were superior to the present figures. True and true they were very prone to abrasions from accidental falls.

On the other hand I have to recognize that today's Schleich figures are more resistant to accidental falls of a shelf to blows and abrasions, although as has been commented they have fallen a lot in quality. From time to time they make some good figure as is the case of kentrosaurus although it is also true that a self-criticism should be done when the figures of Schleich are the most sold and marketed worldwide.

As for extinct animals it is true that they are not what I like (a follower of palaeontological figures based on the Paleontological representation) would wish but it is also true that they make figures of wild animals and marine animals quite good.

As for the theropod dinosaurs is perhaps for Schleich the "black beast" in its production of dinosaurs. It has always been even with the Humbold Museum but this year as the utahraptor without encouragement to offend the followers of Schleich seems a rather careless figure sincerely I do not understand how they make dragons and fantastic animals of Bayala quite acceptable and do not make theropods (Being real animals) more graceful.

That is what I always thought.


Derek.McManus

I have bought a few Schliech over the years some for me and some for my kids...I agree that Schliech are a toy company and have little regard for the serious collector but they do come in for some serious vitriol on the forum sometimes some deserved some less so, I think they made a mistake when they downsized some of their products a few years back but some of their output still interests me either because of its quality or just it's intrinsic appeal despite the lack of accuracy sometimes.

CityRaptor

Intrinsic appeal? There are better figures if you want something accurate and there are better figures if you want something out of Jurassic Park.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Sigmasaurus

Quote from: Derek.McManus on February 28, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
I have bought a few Schliech over the years some for me and some for my kids...I agree that Schliech are a toy company and have little regard for the serious collector but they do come in for some serious vitriol on the forum sometimes some deserved some less so, I think they made a mistake when they downsized some of their products a few years back but some of their output still interests me either because of its quality or just it's intrinsic appeal despite the lack of accuracy sometimes.

yeah, IMO, I think the old Schleich dinosaurs are better than their newer ones.

terrorchicken

Im addicted to their Bayala line...and their extants are very nice, though lately they've tended for squatter pudginess in some species in an attempt to make them "cuter." Their dinosaurs though...not a fan.

Derek.McManus

Quote from: CityRaptor on February 28, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
Intrinsic appeal? There are better figures if you want something accurate and there are better figures if you want something out of Jurassic Park.

Perhaps intrinsic appeal was the wrong choice of words maybe asthectic appeal would be better, I simply like some of Schliech products because I like the way they look for example the pentraceratops, I like the barapasaurus precisely because it looks like a movie monster and the large grey apatasaurus because it's imposing and has heft my personal favourite is the Big Al Allosaurs which I think looks a lot like the creature in Walking with Dinosaurs Ballad of Big Al. I also have a few of the prehistoric sea creatures from a few years back and they are nice models too.

I am not sure why you mentioned accuracy? I thought I made it clear that I bought my dinosaur toys on the basis of what I like the look of and I never mentioned Jurassic Park at all...I liked the book but the film adaptations are rather unoriginal and repetitive basically contrive a reason to put humans in contact with dinosaurs and cue mayhem and running about. The only Jurassic Park toys I collected where the red box originals from the first movie...that toy line has got progressively weaker as the years went by I'm my opinion.

Silvanusaurus

Theres nothing wrong with Schleich making dinosaur figures that are inaccurate, that's not an issue for me at all. I simply think that just because a product is for children and is supposed to be fun, that doesn't change the simple fact that it's highly unethical to force a half blind monkey with no hands or feet to sculpt dinosaur figures.
>:D

stargatedalek

If Schleich didn't claim to be accurate, and didn't behave so abhorrently towards small businesses and so aggressively and intolerantly towards their competition, they would be ok.

Wait...

Nope, that's the entirety of Schleich needing to change.

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