Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Saurian]

JW this is a bad movie, Jurassic Park was a film about animals , not monsters, yes they was  not accurate, but it's an old movie,I think JW has little to do with JP

"Jurassic Park" was not about animals. It was about what can happen when humans mess with nature, they just used dinosaurs as a vehicle for the issue. And because dinosaurs sell of course. But just watch the concerns voiced about cloning during the "round table" scene again, or better yet, read the book. Genetic engineering (and especially cloning) was a hot button issue of the time, in fact...it still is. Only now people are concerned with GMOs or Genetically Modified Organisms. You can go into a pet store these days and buy fish spliced with jellyfish so that they'll glow. They market and sell these fish as "Glofish". Now you have "Jurassic World" coming out and it is covering those same issues pertinent to today's society, just as the original did. "Jurassic World" is the obvious progression of the film. If a place like "Jurassic Park" did exist, you bet your butt they would be looking into this same technology. Especially once the thrill of seeing actual dinosaurs has waned and lets face it, in today's society, it would.

Personally, I'm excited. But I already was, I've always been optimistic about the film. It certainly looks better than any of the abysmal sequels we've gotten thus far.

I think everyone knows, there was screenplay   the JP 4 where hybrids -dinosaurs were  to use weapons, you also say that it's okay?it was also the progression

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

JW this is a bad movie, Jurassic Park was a film about animals , not monsters, yes they was  not accurate, but it's an old movie,I think JW has little to do with JP

"Jurassic Park" was not about animals. It was about what can happen when humans mess with nature, they just used dinosaurs as a vehicle for the issue. And because dinosaurs sell of course. But just watch the concerns voiced about cloning during the "round table" scene again, or better yet, read the book. Genetic engineering (and especially cloning) was a hot button issue of the time, in fact...it still is. Only now people are concerned with GMOs or Genetically Modified Organisms. You can go into a pet store these days and buy fish spliced with jellyfish so that they'll glow. They market and sell these fish as "Glofish". Now you have "Jurassic World" coming out and it is covering those same issues pertinent to today's society, just as the original did. "Jurassic World" is the obvious progression of the film. If a place like "Jurassic Park" did exist, you bet your butt they would be looking into this same technology. Especially once the thrill of seeing actual dinosaurs has waned and lets face it, in today's society, it would.

Personally, I'm excited. But I already was, I've always been optimistic about the film. It certainly looks better than any of the abysmal sequels we've gotten thus far.

I think everyone knows, there was screenplay   the JP 4 where hybrids -dinosaurs were  to use weapons, you also say that it's okay?it was also the progression

Not a logical one though as this film is.

[Gwangi]

GloFish are transgenic zebra danios that have been around since 2001 (though I think they've now done the same process on some other fish species). But I am really interested in how the mutant dinosaur is going to play into the plot. It has a lot of potential to be either very good or very poorly done.

Correct! They've also done it to tiger barbs and gold skirt tetras. Maybe others as well. There are a variety of colors and they've all been spliced with different organisms...coral, sea anemone etc. They were even mentioned in the Michael Crichton novel "Next". These fish are not to be confused with tattooed or dyed fish which also do exist (unfortunately).

Saurian, I think your fears are misplaced. It is clear that the creators of this film have a deep respect for the original. I don't see anything suggesting "weaponized dinosaurs" at this point. Maybe tame dinosaurs (like the Velociraptors) but that's not really so bad, we use tame animals all the time for a variety of purposes. It also seems obvious that there is only one hybrid dinosaur in this film. This movie is a cautionary tale about messing with nature and getting carried away with our technology. Same as the original, only more relevant to our current situation.

[tyrantqueen]

JW this is a bad movie, Jurassic Park was a film about animals , not monsters, yes they was  not accurate, but it's an old movie,I think JW has little to do with JP

There's no way anyone can say that yet, because none of us have seen it.

[HD-man]

I hope the shark looks better in the movie itself (I'm also not a fan of them using a near-endangered species, but I digress). Otherwise, I like the trailer (especially the piano theme, the novel references, & Pratt's raptor hunting party) & I'm very excited/optimistic.

[stargatedalek]

agreed, while it makes for a great cinematic feel, its rather macabre that they chose a great white

[CityRaptor]

It's obviously used for a Worf Effect: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect
It's also a possible jab at the Meg Franchise, with its Villian Sue sharks. Ofcourse cloning a prehistoric shark just to use it as food is not very cost effective.

And people would complain if they fed it with dolphins...

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Well, while watching this trailer I was grinning ear-to-ear like a kid in a candy store. Everything so far looks epically awesome! I owe everything about my renewed love of collecting dinosaur figures to this franchise, and it looks like it will again give me the goosebumps and thrills that were there from the beginning.

I've never had a problem with the depictions of their dinos. From the beginning, they've always been up front about how they were re-created. They were never to be exact representations of what we scientifically knew or know. They never had their complete DNA. They've always had to splice. So this new creation also doesn't bother me in the least. It's always been about how we stand morally playing "the God" thing. It's the Frankenstein story all over again. -- It all looks fantastic until we ultimately lose control of what we've created and it inevitably bites us in the ass!

I know I for one will be at the biggest screen I can find where it'll be playing in NYC, with the biggest tub of fake-buttered popcorn in my lap and a super-sized cherry coke in my hand. Hehe! Hopefully it will play at our Lincoln Square IMAX. It's the biggest in the country!

[Roselaar]

I hope we see a D-Rex and T-Rex battle in this film.

Could be, but I bet the D-Rex falls into the tank and the giant Mosasaur kills it (or they kill each other).

BTW, the Mosasaur has those inner teeth (don't know the scientific term). They may have paid a little more attention to detail than I would have given them credit for. But then there's the totally featherless Raptors.

[Gorgonzola]

Well, hope my friends have set aside money because I am probably going to see this as many times as I saw the first one in theaters.

A friend asked me on FB how I felt about them all being featherless and whatnot with me being an avid fan of these animals, and I wrote back to him with basically "Got no problem with it, because it's heavily implied that the dang things are engineered as theme park attractions anyway," and went on to explain how I wish the movie expanded on the idea that they engineered the dinosaurs to fit the public idea of dinosaurs rather than a more accurate one (if I remember right, Dr. Wu is the one in the book who argues for that, right?  Hammond wanted accurate dinosaurs, and Wu basically said "That's stupid, nobody wants to see accurate dinosaurs, they want to see what they perceive to be accurate dinosaurs."

Honestly can't wait to see this, and to hope for like, I dunno, a NEW version of Operation Genesis.  That game was the bee's knees for me.

[DinoLord]

Could be, but I bet the D-Rex falls into the tank and the giant Mosasaur kills it (or they kill each other).

That would be interesting for sure. The big sea reptile saving the day is somewhat of a trope in prehistory-related media (Raptor Red, Prehistoric Park[/url]). I do look forward to mosasaur scenes though - I'm sure they included it on the creature roster for a reason.

Honestly can't wait to see this, and to hope for like, I dunno, a NEW version of Operation Genesis.  That game was the bee's knees for me.

Same here! I still have my original copy of that game and play it every now and then.

[kreativtek]

It is good to see the trailer being almost completely different from the leak that was published on Instagram yesterday. The only common part is the one with the Mosasaur swallowing a shark.
Unfortunately, I do not like it. And since I do not like the trailer, I suppose I won't like the film, too. I was hoping for Jurassic World to be a spiritual successor to Jurassic Park, but from what I can tell it will be just another action-packed film that has good visuals and casting, but mediocre and predictable plot. I believe Jurassic World will tell a story of a mutant dinosaur getting out of control and Park's main security officer (Christ Pratt) going after it with help of his trained dinosaurus, a scientist, and two teenage boys. The mutant dinosaur - or the D-rex - will be a hybrid of a T-rex and a velociraptor and feature Tyrannosaurus' size and raptor's intelligence. It will be a difficult opponent, but Chris Pratt will outsmart it and good will prevail. Again.

Can you see the absurd yet?

How can one train a pack of velociraptors to listen to his orders? Have you ever heard of a tiger whisperer? There sure are animal behaviorists and children who grew up with wild animals in Asia, but making a tiger feel comfortable around people takes years of hard work. I doubt Chris Pratt's character had enough time to not only learn everything there's to learn about raptors, but also teach them to recognize him and obey his orders.

Another thing is the D-rex. Genetic manipulations aside, did this create really had to be in the film? Did Jurassic World really need an overpowered antagonist for the "good guy" to stand against? From what I've heard, the only reason the D-rex exists is the push that makers of the film have received from toy companies that no longer want to produce "copycat dinosaurs".

Those are just two things, but there are many others that I find somehow disturbing or inaccurate in the concept behind Jurassic World. For example, I do not understand how dinosaurs would drink water from a river with some strange-smelling boats filled with noisy people on it. Their instincts would tell them it is not entirely safe, wouldn't they?

I apologize for my lengthy post and blowing off steam. I have been waiting for a new Jurassic Park film for a great part of my life and I am sad that Jurassic World most likely will not fulfill my expectations. But I want to believe I am wrong.

[Manatee]

A friend asked me on FB how I felt about them all being featherless and whatnot with me being an avid fan of these animals, and I wrote back to him with basically "Got no problem with it, because it's heavily implied that the dang things are engineered as theme park attractions anyway," and went on to explain how I wish the movie expanded on the idea that they engineered the dinosaurs to fit the public idea of dinosaurs rather than a more accurate one (if I remember right, Dr. Wu is the one in the book who argues for that, right?  Hammond wanted accurate dinosaurs, and Wu basically said "That's stupid, nobody wants to see accurate dinosaurs, they want to see what they perceive to be accurate dinosaurs."

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a NEW version of Operation Genesis.

Hear, hear! I mentioned this in my YouTube analysis video about the trailer , and that's exactly what I thought about the giganto-mosasaur. Also, a new version of JPOG would be the best thing in the dinosaur nerd world since the Battat Diplodocus. I also certainly look forward to the mosasaur, and also hope they include Baryonyx- that thing's been on the creature roster since JP1, and still has never made an appearance! It was on the promotional pamphlet thingy, so there's a chance.

[Balaur]

Just saw the trailer. I'm not impressed. The CGI looks okay, and I'm a little disappointed to see featherless dinosaurs. And from what I see, the dialogue seems cringy to me. I think the only thing I liked from the trailer was the hamster ball the kids were in when they go past the sauropod (Apatosaurus?) I might see it, but from the little I see right now, I don't think I will. Maybe when it's on DVD. Still, it's early to make a full judgment.

[DinoToyForum]

Their instincts would tell them it is not entirely safe, wouldn't they?

"Think of it as kind of a big cow"

[Takama]

Well Im stoked to see this film.     I wonder if that Chase scene with the large theropod was the Diablous rex or something different?

Its also cool to see some scenes that have been rumored for YEARS pop up in the Film. (for instance, I remember reading about the Motorcycle scene back in i think was 2008, and of course the Over-sized Mossasaur eating the shark was reviled more recently)

[Hermes888]

Well, it's more disappointing than I thought it would be. It just looks too silly - a gigantic dinosaur hybrid capable of scaling forty-foot high walls that kills everything it sees, and now the only way to stop it is a pack of trained Velociraptor. I can't believe that this is the "reboot" of Jurassic Park.

CGI looks 'meh' too - I'm really not impressed. You'd figure that they'd put a lot of money into a reboot of such a high-profile series.

By the way - wasn't it the point of the first film that life can't be controlled?

[kreativtek]

Their instincts would tell them it is not entirely safe, wouldn't they?

"Think of it as kind of a big cow"

Ha ha. Is that what the dinosaurs say when they see curious humans photographing them from the boats?

[HD-man]

@Kreativtek

No offense, but based on what we actually know about JW, your complaints seem nit-picky at best & non-sensical at worst.

I was hoping for Jurassic World to be a spiritual successor to Jurassic Park,

Gwangi has already explained that several times.

I believe Jurassic World will tell a story of a mutant dinosaur getting out of control and Park's main security officer (Christ Pratt) going after it with help of his trained dinosaurus, a scientist, and two teenage boys. The mutant dinosaur - or the D-rex - will be a hybrid of a T-rex and a velociraptor and feature Tyrannosaurus' size and raptor's intelligence. It will be a difficult opponent, but Chris Pratt will outsmart it and good will prevail. Again.

1stly, based on the trailer, the "two teenage boys" (who are just trying to survive) obviously have a separate sub-plot from Pratt & the scientist.

2ndly, what do you mean by "again"? It's not like the JP franchise has done what you described before. In fact, based on the trailer, JW barely resembles what you described.

How can one train a pack of velociraptors to listen to his orders? Have you ever heard of a tiger whisperer?

You say that as if tigers (which are solitary & thus a bad example) are the only modern predators. Have you never heard of hunting dogs or falconry, among other things?

Another thing is the D-rex. Genetic manipulations aside, did this create really had to be in the film? Did Jurassic World really need an overpowered antagonist for the "good guy" to stand against?

Again, Gwangi has already explained that several times.

For example, I do not understand how dinosaurs would drink water from a river with some strange-smelling boats filled with noisy people on it. Their instincts would tell them it is not entirely safe, wouldn't they?

Tell that to modern animals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV24Y5AvDGo&spfreload=10

[Gorgonzola]

Something that I just thought of that would give me a laugh, and is an utterly throwaway line for fans of dinosaurs - if the current CEO of InGen or one of the top geneticists said something like "We've thought about introducing feathered varieties of some of our current species, but testing indicates it doesn't gel with our brand at this moment." Heck, I can even see that being just a little line tossed out when they're talking about genetically engineering a new dinosaur.