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Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

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Blade-of-the-Moon

If this starts a new trilogy they may slowly add feathers to some of them...all new versions and all.


John

#1521
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
If this starts a new trilogy they may slowly add feathers to some of them...all new versions and all.
There are a few that have yet to appear in any of the movies like Deinonychus or Utahraptor that could just be presented in a modern feathered way and still keep continuity without much comment on it.
I've heard of the desire from the makers of making a new trilogy starting with this new one coming up and it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to see many more come out,but from what I've seen in the trailers this certainly feels like a grand finale to the series to me.There's an open operational park complete with a new genetic hybrid dinosaur providing the absolute worst case scenario for all characters involved.Where is there left to go after this I wonder ?  :)
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Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: John on February 04, 2015, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
If this starts a new trilogy they may slowly add feathers to some of them...all new versions and all.
There are a few that have yet to appear in any of the movies like Deinonychus or Utahraptor that could just be presented in a modern feathered way and still keep continuity without much comment on it.
I've heard of the desire from the makers of making a new trilogy starting with this new one coming up and it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to see many more come out,but from what I've seen in the trailers this certainly feels like a grand finale to the series to me.There's an open operational park complete with a new genetic hybrid dinosaur providing the absolute worst case scenario for all characters involved.Where is there left to go after this I wonder ?  :)

There are routes..not sure how good they would be..bio-weapons, escaped dinosaurs on the mainland enmasse, a JAWS deal with the escaped Mosasaur...could be more of a tv series ..rounding up escaped species and all.  It will all depend on how well this one works out I think. Universal won't kill a cash cow.

John

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: John on February 04, 2015, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
If this starts a new trilogy they may slowly add feathers to some of them...all new versions and all.
There are a few that have yet to appear in any of the movies like Deinonychus or Utahraptor that could just be presented in a modern feathered way and still keep continuity without much comment on it.
I've heard of the desire from the makers of making a new trilogy starting with this new one coming up and it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to see many more come out,but from what I've seen in the trailers this certainly feels like a grand finale to the series to me.There's an open operational park complete with a new genetic hybrid dinosaur providing the absolute worst case scenario for all characters involved.Where is there left to go after this I wonder ?  :)
There are routes..not sure how good they would be..bio-weapons, escaped dinosaurs on the mainland enmasse, a JAWS deal with the escaped Mosasaur...could be more of a tv series ..rounding up escaped species and all.  It will all depend on how well this one works out I think. Universal won't kill a cash cow.

While I would like to see it do well,the question is how will it fare when up against a certain little Marvel Studios Movie known as Avengers:Age of Ultron?With that plus Star Wars Episode VII:The Force Awakens I would hate to be in the shoes of any movie studio going up against Disney this year... :)
Don't you hate it when you legitimately compliment someone's mustache and she gets angry with you?

suspsy

I certainly won't be going to see it opening night. And unless it gets rave reviews, I won't be going to see it at all. And even if I do, I'll still be put off by all the glaring inaccuracies. There's simply no justification for them other than a lack of research and imagination. And it's not *just* the feathers, although that is the main one. As I was arguing with a friend elsewhere, if someone made a 2015 film where computers and phones were depicted the way they were in the 90s', there'd be ridicule and disgust everywhere from Silicon Valley to your local high school. Or it's as though the original JP film depicted dinosaurs walking upright and dragging their tails. That's how these JW "dinosaurs" feel. At least for me. They could EASILY still have appealed to the awesome bro crowd with feathered dinosaurs. Or giant azdarchids.

And as I've noted before, the animatronics and the CGI both look bad. James Cameron's Avatar laughs at Jurassic World.

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Alex-DinoFood

Quote from: suspsy on February 04, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
I certainly won't be going to see it opening night. And unless it gets rave reviews, I won't be going to see it at all. And even if I do, I'll still be put off by all the glaring inaccuracies. There's simply no justification for them other than a lack of research and imagination. And it's not *just* the feathers, although that is the main one. As I was arguing with a friend elsewhere, if someone made a 2015 film where computers and phones were depicted the way they were in the 90s', there'd be ridicule and disgust everywhere from Silicon Valley to your local high school. Or it's as though the original JP film depicted dinosaurs walking upright and dragging their tails. That's how these JW "dinosaurs" feel. At least for me. They could EASILY still have appealed to the awesome bro crowd with feathered dinosaurs. Or giant azdarchids.

And as I've noted before, the animatronics and the CGI both look bad. James Cameron's Avatar laughs at Jurassic World.

You really are a ray of sunshine, aren't you... ::)

Gwangi

Quote from: John on February 04, 2015, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: John on February 04, 2015, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
If this starts a new trilogy they may slowly add feathers to some of them...all new versions and all.
There are a few that have yet to appear in any of the movies like Deinonychus or Utahraptor that could just be presented in a modern feathered way and still keep continuity without much comment on it.
I've heard of the desire from the makers of making a new trilogy starting with this new one coming up and it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to see many more come out,but from what I've seen in the trailers this certainly feels like a grand finale to the series to me.There's an open operational park complete with a new genetic hybrid dinosaur providing the absolute worst case scenario for all characters involved.Where is there left to go after this I wonder ?  :)
There are routes..not sure how good they would be..bio-weapons, escaped dinosaurs on the mainland enmasse, a JAWS deal with the escaped Mosasaur...could be more of a tv series ..rounding up escaped species and all.  It will all depend on how well this one works out I think. Universal won't kill a cash cow.

While I would like to see it do well,the question is how will it fare when up against a certain little Marvel Studios Movie known as Avengers:Age of Ultron?With that plus Star Wars Episode VII:The Force Awakens I would hate to be in the shoes of any movie studio going up against Disney this year... :)

I don't think they need to be too worried. Avengers comes out on the first of May, more than a month before JW and StarWars won't be out until December. They won't be competing with each other that much.

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suspsy

Quote from: Alex-DinoFood on February 04, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: suspsy on February 04, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
I certainly won't be going to see it opening night. And unless it gets rave reviews, I won't be going to see it at all. And even if I do, I'll still be put off by all the glaring inaccuracies. There's simply no justification for them other than a lack of research and imagination. And it's not *just* the feathers, although that is the main one. As I was arguing with a friend elsewhere, if someone made a 2015 film where computers and phones were depicted the way they were in the 90s', there'd be ridicule and disgust everywhere from Silicon Valley to your local high school. Or it's as though the original JP film depicted dinosaurs walking upright and dragging their tails. That's how these JW "dinosaurs" feel. At least for me. They could EASILY still have appealed to the awesome bro crowd with feathered dinosaurs. Or giant azdarchids.

And as I've noted before, the animatronics and the CGI both look bad. James Cameron's Avatar laughs at Jurassic World.

You really are a ray of sunshine, aren't you... ::)

I'm just calling it like I see it. Frankly, I don't like how this film is creating sharp divisions in the dinosaur fandom. But then, so did the previous three.
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Quote from: suspsy on February 04, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
Quote from: Alex-DinoFood on February 04, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: suspsy on February 04, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
I certainly won't be going to see it opening night. And unless it gets rave reviews, I won't be going to see it at all. And even if I do, I'll still be put off by all the glaring inaccuracies. There's simply no justification for them other than a lack of research and imagination. And it's not *just* the feathers, although that is the main one. As I was arguing with a friend elsewhere, if someone made a 2015 film where computers and phones were depicted the way they were in the 90s', there'd be ridicule and disgust everywhere from Silicon Valley to your local high school. Or it's as though the original JP film depicted dinosaurs walking upright and dragging their tails. That's how these JW "dinosaurs" feel. At least for me. They could EASILY still have appealed to the awesome bro crowd with feathered dinosaurs. Or giant azdarchids.

And as I've noted before, the animatronics and the CGI both look bad. James Cameron's Avatar laughs at Jurassic World.

You really are a ray of sunshine, aren't you... ::)

I'm just calling it like I see it. Frankly, I don't like how this film is creating sharp divisions in the dinosaur fandom. But then, so did the previous three.

I have to ask based on this comment...do you really truly believe the movie itself is creating the sharp divisions in fandom or is it merely aggravating and emphasizing an existing state of affairs? I hear terms like feather nazies and scale nazis, constantly, but I was hearing them long before this movie was a blip on the screen. I think it speaks to something far deeper than just this movie, and the movie is just a catalyst for people to bring it to a head.
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


suspsy

I'd say you're right on the money with that observation. I've heard those nasty terms before as well and it irks me every time. I've even seen scientists use them, sadly. Or at least people claiming to be scientists.

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Sim

#1530
A friend of mine suggested we go see Jurassic World with another friend of ours, so it looks like I will be going to see it.  I probably wouldn't go see JW otherwise, and it's not a priority.  My guess is most people who are going to see the film don't really mind if the prehistoric animals look as they do in JW now or if they were more accurate.  I think there's a good chance people who really like the JP prehistoric animals would like more more accurate reconstructions done well if they were in Jurassic World.  I agree with suspsy that there's no justification for the inaccuracies other than a lack of research and imagination.  If I go see JW the inaccuracies will put me off.  Kids dinosaur books now show up-to-date pictures and information of feathered dinosaurs, so I wouldn't underestimate the amount of people with an interest in real dinosaurs who will see inaccuracies in JW's dinosaurs.

tyrantqueen

I'm going to see it...but not on the opening night. The first time I did that (and the last) was when I went to see Toy Story 2. Queuing is boring and too many people invading my personal space is not good for my anxiety and aspergers :-[

I tend to watch anything that I have a slight interest in, because I like visiting the cinema. It's a fun opportunity to spend time with family.

I'm not a huge fan of Jurassic Park and I'm actually more excited for Terminator Genisys, because I'm more invested in that series. Even though I do not have high expectations for that movie, either ::) Hollywood ruined that series when it should have ended with 2.

Doug Watson

#1532
I go to movies for entertainment and escapism. If I want to learn something I'll watch a documentary or a biopic but if I want to sit in a cinema for 2 to 3 hours and forget all my troubles there is nothing better than a good horror/fantasy/sci fi movie. I grew up on the old Universal Horror movies and you see the same debates online over the merits of the remake of the Wolf Man. I love the original with Lon Chaney Jr and I love the remake with Benicio Del Toro but to listen to the purists the remake was right up there with Plan 9 from Outer Space. The original had great acting and atmosphere and the make up by Jack Pierce was ground breaking but really as Rick Baker pointed out lots of people have bigger canines than the original wolf man and there are more inconsistencies than you can shake a stick at like why was Bela Lugosi's alter ego a German Shepard when Chaney's was a bipedal hybrid. With the remake I got the best practical make up for a traditional werewolf ever. The only thing that bugged me with the remake and it was a small thing was Del Toro's accent. For me the acting in movies like these doesn't have to be Citizen Kane level it just has to be professional, my main interest is in the special effects.
As for the Jurassic Park series I say bring on JP 100, as long as someone in Hollyweird is willing to invest their millions in quality special effects I'll be there front and centre to watch it, just not on opening night, like TQ been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


suspsy

I'll certainly be interested to hear people's thoughts here on the forum when the film does come out.
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kreativtek

I saw "Ice Age 3" today and the final scene looked awfully familiar. Gosh, even dinosaurs were almost the same as in "Jurassic World" (reddish T-rex versus albino giant-something with crooked teeth). I think we will see something very similar in June and, to tell you the truth, I look forward to it!

suspsy

I'd actually be quite happy if the mutant freak got pushed off a cliff by T. Rex. And wow, those similarities didn't occur to me until you mentioned them. Well done.

Ice Age 3 wins out because it did have feathered maniraptors. Beautiful ones at that!
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Shadowknight1

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 04, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
There are routes..not sure how good they would be..bio-weapons, escaped dinosaurs on the mainland enmasse, a JAWS deal with the escaped Mosasaur...could be more of a tv series ..rounding up escaped species and all.  It will all depend on how well this one works out I think. Universal won't kill a cash cowT. rex.
Fixed.

I'm looking forward to it.  I'm also looking forward to LEGO Jurassic World.  Just hope they'll let us play as dinos.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Gwangi

Quote from: tyrantqueen on February 04, 2015, 05:20:38 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Jurassic Park and I'm actually more excited for Terminator Genisys, because I'm more invested in that series. Even though I do not have high expectations for that movie, either ::) Hollywood ruined that series when it should have ended with 2.

I'm also excited for Terminator (the first two are among my favorite movies) but I'm actually more reserved for that one than I am for JW. There are some things they're doing with Genesys (like spelling genesis wrong) that put up a lot of red flags. There are some ideas in there I think I like though. We'll see what the reviews say for that one, I'll probably pay to see it anyway.

suspsy

I still haven't made up my mind about TG. I'd have much rather seen Ahnuld do a King Conan movie.
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triceratops83

I'm tired of being disappointed by movies in general, and now the only things that will get me into theatres are Dinosaur movies and the ever trustworthy James Bond. I'm not gonna be fooled by Star Wars even, unless Disney gives me Bluray releases of the ones I grew up with. Jurassic World I will remain a little sceptical of, since I choose to remain a cynic, but honestly, I haven't been this excited for a movie in a long time.

I am a little annoyed at the killer Pterosaurs in the superbowl trailer, though. I would have hoped for as little possible connection to JP3, a movie I cannot hate, but irks me so much I have never been able to uncritically watch.

Trained Velociraptors could turn out to be annoying, but so far I'm liking the concept. JP3 already ruined the raptors anyway. Those things abandoned their entire nests to chase after two stolen eggs? Pffffft. I hope the rest of the clutch were eaten by Gallimimus and rats. Since they took away their menace in that film, it will be great (hopefully) to see them instilled with some personality and heroism in this one.
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