Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Uroplatus]

We have seen many saurs already in the trailers
But not 1 glimp of Trex
Isnt that a bit strange (or important)

Haven't you seen the latest trailer??

There is only the glimps where he gets the goat (again)
At the heli crash is a allosaurus

I think that's the I-rex instead of an Allosaurus.

[SpartanSquat]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

[Jetoar]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

I am totally agree with you friend  .

[DinoToyForum]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

The dinosaurs in the novel are genetic creations out of necessity, of course, but there are no made up monsters of the kind that is 'Indominus'. None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

[DinoToyForum]

My girlfriend thought of the following JP scene when she saw the recent JW trailer and merchandise. It's a bit unfair, but possibly apt. I replaced the word "scientists/scientific" with "movie-makers/movie-making". There's no tongue-in-cheek smiley, otherwise I'd use it

Dr. Ian Malcolm: If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the movie-making power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now
[bangs on the table]
Dr. Ian Malcolm: you're selling it, you wanna sell it. Well...
John Hammond: I don't think you're giving us our due credit. Our movie-makers have done things which nobody's ever done before...
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, yeah, but your movie-makers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.

[suspsy]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

The dinosaurs in the novel are genetic creations out of necessity, of course, but there are no made up monsters of the kind that is 'Indominus'. None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

Indeed, the novel version of John Hammond balked at Wu's suggestion to tamper with the dinosaurs' DNA any further.

Also, the baby T. Rexes in The Lost World had feathers.

[stargatedalek]

None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

Wu requested it to Hammond in the novel. He wanted to create fictional dinosaurs that would appeal to peoples stereotypical perception of dinosaurs. With Wu working for a new manager perhaps he finally got his way.

[DinoToyForum]

None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

Wu requested it to Hammond in the novel. He wanted to create fictional dinosaurs that would appeal to peoples stereotypical perception of dinosaurs. With Wu working for a new manager perhaps he finally got his way.

Wu's point was that the dinosaurs were 'fictional' by necessity, so he saw the benefit of manipulating them slightly. He was talking about making them "domesticated",  "better versions", "slower, more docile" (p. 123). Nothing akin to 'Indominus'... the opposite, in fact.

[SpartanSquat]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

The dinosaurs in the novel are genetic creations out of necessity, of course, but there are no made up monsters of the kind that is 'Indominus'. None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

They created Indominus to make it more fearsome than t-rex. And this is a business. People will blow up saying: More mader****er than t-rex?! But the idea of an hybrid dinosaur was mentioned in the spea that you mention of Hammond and Wu.

[DinoToyForum]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

The dinosaurs in the novel are genetic creations out of necessity, of course, but there are no made up monsters of the kind that is 'Indominus'. None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

They created Indominus to make it more fearsome than t-rex. And this is a business. People will blow up saying: More mader****er than t-rex?! But the idea of an hybrid dinosaur was mentioned in the spea that you mention of Hammond and Wu.

I get the plot, I just don't like it very much. I'm hoping the movie turns me around on my innate cynicism. Nope, hybrid dinosaurs were not mentioned in the novel. I just read the relevant section of the book and quoted in my previous post what Wu actually wanted (not dinosaur hybrids). 

[SpartanSquat]

@dinotoyforum: But it could be the best way. Now we can make dinosaurs, so lets splice them. The Indominus idea in the beginning I didnt like it. But a good friend that worked with me said me the dinosaur is the Frankenstein monster (an abomination made by different parts) and Jurassic Park is the Frankenstein story. And I think Indominus fit very well. The main idea of JP was forgot to a more adventure like movies.
If we think Jurassic Park idea was based in a movie made by Michael Crichton himself West World (parodied in the Simpson as Scratchyland). Its the same idea: A future park with a lot of technology were scientists are like goda making a life. A fail turn all in chaos. But it works!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I really enjoyed the trailer and I have a good feeling that reminds me to JP.
And about the I-rex and dinosaur doesnt lok accurate, I think many people didnt read the novel. In the novel Hammon and Wu have a small speak about how they made dinosaurs. Hammond said they made real dinosaurs, but people have a different expectations. And remember Jurassic World park is a business and they want money. The Indominus story is clearly a back to the roots of Jurassic Park, the story of Frankenstein Monster. An abomination made by different parts against their creations. Also you will remember in the book mention the dinosaurs arent pure.

The dinosaurs in the novel are genetic creations out of necessity, of course, but there are no made up monsters of the kind that is 'Indominus'. None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

There was a lot of back and forth over the potential uses of them..Dodgson had said Ingen could use them for pets, laboratory testing animals with no rights, just a lot of different things. Spliced "designer dinosaurs" isn't much of a leap as the thought process proceeds.



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None of the characters in the novel entertained such an idea either, as far as I can remember.

Wu requested it to Hammond in the novel. He wanted to create fictional dinosaurs that would appeal to peoples stereotypical perception of dinosaurs. With Wu working for a new manager perhaps he finally got his way.

I've wondered about that. It would explain a lot really.   I'm getting the feeling that if they didn't have a Corythosaurus they would make a Parasaurolphus and alter the dna to have one.  Wu had a point too..the JP novel dinosaurs weren't real dinosaurs either so making them to fit a public perception would be a good idea from a business stand point.  Making them more docile would also have helped the Park staff and to maintain control. The whole problem they had with dinosaurs not meeting cars at the fence could have been solved in this way as well.

[Shadowknight1]

Ah, but in the book, they saw plenty of dinos on the short-lived tour.

[DinoToyForum]

@dinotoyforum: But it could be the best way. Now we can make dinosaurs, so lets splice them. The Indominus idea in the beginning I didnt like it. But a good friend that worked with me said me the dinosaur is the Frankenstein monster (an abomination made by different parts) and Jurassic Park is the Frankenstein story. And I think Indominus fit very well. The main idea of JP was forgot to a more adventure like movies.
If we think Jurassic Park idea was based in a movie made by Michael Crichton himself West World (parodied in the Simpson as Scratchyland). Its the same idea: A future park with a lot of technology were scientists are like goda making a life. A fail turn all in chaos. But it works!

It has been years since I read Shelley's novel but I remember it quite well. Frankenstein used science to breathe life into something dead...and it backfired. But Frankenstein's monster was intended to be a normal human, just as the dinosaurs in JP were intended to be real animals. The monster is a mixture of parts out of necessity (as with the dinos in JP) and also because Frankenstein wanted it to be the best it could possibly be, a la Wu in the JP novel. So, the story of Frankenstein is possibly a better analogy for Jurassic Park than it is for Jurassic World.

We will just have to wait a few weeks to find out if JW floats our boats, it is impossible to judge based on the trailer.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Ah, but in the book, they saw plenty of dinos on the short-lived tour.

In the book that's true. There were much fewer dinos shown in the film.

Honestly I think JP in the novel really could have worked had they not made any predators.  At least to start off with.

@dinotoyforum: But it could be the best way. Now we can make dinosaurs, so lets splice them. The Indominus idea in the beginning I didnt like it. But a good friend that worked with me said me the dinosaur is the Frankenstein monster (an abomination made by different parts) and Jurassic Park is the Frankenstein story. And I think Indominus fit very well. The main idea of JP was forgot to a more adventure like movies.
If we think Jurassic Park idea was based in a movie made by Michael Crichton himself West World (parodied in the Simpson as Scratchyland). Its the same idea: A future park with a lot of technology were scientists are like goda making a life. A fail turn all in chaos. But it works!

It has been years since I read Shelley's novel but I remember it quite well. Frankenstein used science to breathe life into something dead...and it backfired. But Frankenstein's monster was intended to be a normal human, just as the dinosaurs in JP were intended to be real animals. The monster is a mixture of parts out of necessity (as with the dinos in JP) and also because Frankenstein wanted it to be the best it could possibly be, a la Wu in the JP novel. So, the story of Frankenstein is possibly a better analogy for Jurassic Park than it is for Jurassic World.

We will just have to wait a few weeks to find out if JW floats our boats, it is impossible to judge based on the trailer.

I think someone..maybe the director said that the I-Rex would be a sympathetic monster? Something that exists like Frankenstein's creation.  An outsider or pariah even among other dinosaurs.  That's the only analogy I've read..but it was on JPL..way too much stuff there to sort through.

[Arul]

The trailer is great. My opinion is if the trailer great the movie will absolutely greater, or the other opinion is im afraid this is gonna be one of the candidate of "trailer best than the movie" on youtube channel, i think they spoiled too much of best part from the movie on the trailer. Well i  still hope the movie is absolutely greater than the trailer and please no more 4th trailer 

[tyrantqueen]

Meh, that trailer didn't strike me as particularly bad or particularly good. I still don't care about the I.rex. Hopefully there will be some sort of plot development for it, otherwise I will consider it to be a forgettable villain.

I like the inclusion of the mosasaur. But like everyone else mentioned, it's probably going to show up in the beginning, get forgotten about during the rest of the film, and then show up at the climax to finish the main villain off. There's not much else it can do, since it's water bound.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Meh, that trailer didn't strike me as particularly bad or particularly good. I still don't care about the I.rex. Hopefully there will be some sort of plot development for it, otherwise I will consider it to be a forgettable villain.

I like the inclusion of the mosasaur. But like everyone else mentioned, it's probably going to show up in the beginning, get forgotten about during the rest of the film, and then show up at the climax to finish the main villain off. There's not much else it can do, since it's water bound.

The plot surrounding the I-Rex sounds complicated so there should be good development there. How much with all the action will be hard to say. It could be subtle.

The Mosa has a couple scenes, eating the shark during the show, snapping up a pteranodon, then there is...

Spoilers


An underwater observatory scene where the stadium seats are supposed to lower down into. And there was a mention of a plesiosaur or smaller mosasaur attacking boats/canoes at some point.

[suspsy]

I hate the shark scene. I get what the director is going for, but in this day and age, it just comes off as cruel. Yay, let's kill an endangered keystone species and serve it up to a genetic freak! Fun for the whole family!

It'd be no different if they were offering up a Siberian tiger to the T. Rex.

[Patrx]

I hate the shark scene. I get what the director is going for, but in this day and age, it just comes off as cruel. Yay, let's kill an endangered keystone species and serve it up to a genetic freak! Fun for the whole family!
It'd be no different if they were offering up a Siberian tiger to the T. Rex.

That's a really good point, actually. People are awful to sharks in general.