Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[irimali]

The more I see of the hybrid thing the less interested in the film I become. Seeing a film with fake real dinosaurs is one thing, but this seems to be all about fake fake dinosaurs. Great.

So apparently Vic Hoskins is supposed to be some kind of antagonist; he's the chief of security at the park and has even done some military contract work.

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I'm guessing the big plot twist is that the purpose for all these dumb features they've thrown in to make it "cool" (like camouflage, intelligence, and venom) was actually to make a super-weapon and not to be a big attraction.

[close]

At this point I'm probably going to see the film with a friend, probably the only way I'll be able to enjoy this. It looks so awful.

Dang.  I think you nailed it.  I can't decide if this is better or worse than that dinosaur/human hybrid soldiers idea they were toying with a few years ago.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Dino/humans has a...certain feeling one should experience outside of Star Trek series or SciFi channel.

Hybrid dinosaurs however have been around since Kenner's Chaos line....so fans should have had time for the idea to be accepted.

[Takama]

If the Dino Human Hybrids were a part of a movie that is not Jurassic Park, i would not mind it. But i fear they might bring those retched things back for a sequel or two to Jurassic World. I mean, they already did a normal looking Mutant Dino, makes me wonder how else they can ruin the Franchise for true dino lovers

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

If the Dino Human Hybrids were a part of a movie that is not Jurassic Park, i would not mind it. But i fear they might bring those retched things back for a sequel or two to Jurassic World. I mean, they already did a normal looking Mutant Dino, makes me wonder how else they can ruin the Franchise for true dino lovers

I think Universal got the gist when all the blowback from that idea occurred. So it's not something I see.

I do think maybe we will get dinosaurs as living biological weapons.  Maybe something like The Walking Dead but with dinosaurs instead of zombies.

[Shadowknight1]

Dino/humans has a...certain feeling one should experience outside of Star Trek series or SciFi channel.

Hybrid dinosaurs however have been around since Kenner's Chaos line....so fans should have had time for the idea to be accepted.

At least I-Rex looks like a dinosaur that could have potentially existed rather than, for example, a compy with the plates and tail of a stegosaurus and the tongue of a frog.  Oh, and neon colors too.

[DinoToyForum]

Dino/humans has a...certain feeling one should experience outside of Star Trek series or SciFi channel.

Hybrid dinosaurs however have been around since Kenner's Chaos line....so fans should have had time for the idea to be accepted.

At least I-Rex looks like a dinosaur that could have potentially existed rather than, for example, a compy with the plates and tail of a stegosaurus and the tongue of a frog.  Oh, and neon colors too.

Yeah, but in that case, what's the point?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

There was a style to older Chaos Effect line that's for sure..it wasn't aimed at realistic. That said, no reason it couldn't have went that route.  I mean the Velociraptoryx had wings and feathers..it was pretty close to an actual Velociraptor style aside.

I'm actually surprised brighter colors weren't an idea for some species in the Park. Would make them more attractive. But maybe the GA isn't ready for it...which is who they are pandering to.

The I-Rex I'm pretty sure they were going for " scary". Not just in the film but in the universe of the film as well. The red eyes, ghost-ish white/grey skin..it's a monster among monsters.

[Appalachiosaurus]

I like to think that the "higher ups" at Jurassic World work the same way as the "higher ups" at universal. Why has controversial feathered and colorful dinosaurs when you can go the safer route, money wise, and make them dull and outdated? It works the same way.

Same with indominus, universal/corporate thought that was needed to bring people over.

[suspsy]

http://www.slashfilm.com/jurassic-world-set-visit/


Here's a lengthy article on JW that may be of interest to some people.

[DinoLord]

Nice article; thanks for linking. Though I was initially rather skeptical of the whole hybrid plot point, I feel like it will be justified well and fit in with the franchise's themes. I also get the sense that this film will have a nice complexity, with a lot of layers that may not be obvious at first.

[Shadowknight1]

IGN had a similar article and I loved the mention of the old park.

[DinoToyForum]

Nice article; thanks for linking. Though I was initially rather skeptical of the whole hybrid plot point, I feel like it will be justified well and fit in with the franchise's themes. I also get the sense that this film will have a nice complexity, with a lot of layers that may not be obvious at first.

Here's hoping, although I'm not as optimistic as you.

[suspsy]

Nice article; thanks for linking. Though I was initially rather skeptical of the whole hybrid plot point, I feel like it will be justified well and fit in with the franchise's themes. I also get the sense that this film will have a nice complexity, with a lot of layers that may not be obvious at first.

I remain pessimistic. But as I said, I'll be monitoring this forum carefully once the film comes out.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I was originally a little iffy on the whole thing. the director was a fan and seemed to be aiming that direction but that's never a sure thing.....but  I'm starting to get swept up in all the hype. I'm hearing pretty positive things from a lot of directions..and I'm getting a JP vibe from this new "creature" (JW).   Also reading Universal may actually be planning new areas to the JP area of the park. It would mean they have some faith in the franchise again.

[dragon53]

JURASSIC WORLD director Colin Trevorrow said the Tyrannosaurus Rex from the original 1993 movie returns for the sequel, "The T. Rex in this movie is the same T. Rex from JURASSIC PARK. She's been on the island for 22 years. She's still alive. She's a little older, and she's angry.
We took the original design and obviously, technology has changed. So, it's going to move a little bit differently, but it'll move differently because it's older. And we're giving her some scars, and we're tightening her skin. So she has that feeling of, like, an older Burt Lancaster. And this movie is her UNFORGIVEN."

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

We supposed after the marketing cg image came out it would be the original Rex back. It will be great to see her again.

I do wonder if they made another animatronic for her? It should move about the same if so.

It's also interesting it seems they have more than Rex as per the website.

[Dobber]

I wonder if they will say, what they did with the other Rex's and Dino's from the other island. Or is that just going to stay a natural preserve?

Chris

[Shadowknight1]

We supposed after the marketing cg image came out it would be the original Rex back. It will be great to see her again.

I do wonder if they made another animatronic for her? It should move about the same if so.

It's also interesting it seems they have more than Rex as per the website.

The website seems contradictory in the rex department.  The thing for the dinosaur itself says that they've never seen a T. rex family feud.  The one for the T. rex Kingdom talks like the Big Rex is the only one in there.

I wonder if they will say, what they did with the other Rex's and Dino's from the other island. Or is that just going to stay a natural preserve?

Chris

To my knowledge, there was only one T. rex in the original park.  The other dinos, that's hard to say.  Obviously they're ignoring the Isla Nublar bombing story thread that was hinted at in a deleted Lost World scene and mentioned again in Jurassic Park The Game, as well as the original novel.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

We supposed after the marketing cg image came out it would be the original Rex back. It will be great to see her again.

I do wonder if they made another animatronic for her? It should move about the same if so.

It's also interesting it seems they have more than Rex as per the website.

The website seems contradictory in the rex department.  The thing for the dinosaur itself says that they've never seen a T. rex family feud.  The one for the T. rex Kingdom talks like the Big Rex is the only one in there.

I wonder if they will say, what they did with the other Rex's and Dino's from the other island. Or is that just going to stay a natural preserve?

Chris

To my knowledge, there was only one T. rex in the original park.  The other dinos, that's hard to say.  Obviously they're ignoring the Isla Nublar bombing story thread that was hinted at in a deleted Lost World scene and mentioned again in Jurassic Park The Game, as well as the original novel.

It sounds to me like the they have one on display and maybe others elsewhere.  According to some other mentions it seems the original Rex is problematic and difficult to deal with. We know she didn't like to be fed but preferred "to hunt/play". Colin said she had slowed a bit in her older age too. I'm sure she'll take out the I-Rex ( maybe with help) but I wonder if she is even the one we saw in the trailer. Maybe she's kept in a special area.

I think Chris meant Isla Sorna.  To my knowledge that island won't really be referenced as it doesn't pertain to the film.

The deleted scene from TLW in the boardroom made it sound like they had destroyed everything and there was a cost involved in doing so. I'm not so sure Ludlow didn't just fabricate that to get the board more on his side.

[triceratops83]

Soundtrack track listing. Don't worry - no spoilers

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