Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Takama]

an Army of angry Thirzinosaurs sounds pethetic.  Its a plant eater, yet the film would make it the vilian, making people wonder if its a meat eater and stick with it. as a result, any other type of media would follow suit. (Just like Spinosaurus, whose appeard in everything since JP3 and shown to be a Meat eater when in reality, it preferd fish in real life.)

[Balaur]

What if the new villain dinosaur is Balaur bondoc? That would be cool. I'm still upset about the no feathers thing. As a matter in fact, I believe that feathers can make things more scary. I think Jack Horner said the new dinosaur has been one that has never been seen on screen before, strengthening my belief it is Balaur. A raptor with two sickle claws is scary already. I highly doubt though that Balaur was a pure carnivore, but still I wouldn't mined seeing Balaur in Jurassic Park 4. I'll still be seeing it for the CGI and for the fun of it. I hope they don't mess it up.

[tyrantqueen]

What if the new villain dinosaur is Balaur bondoc? That would be cool. I'm still upset about the no feathers thing. As a matter in fact, I believe that feathers can make things more scary. I think Jack Horner said the new dinosaur has been one that has never been seen on screen before, strengthening my belief it is Balaur. A raptor with two sickle claws is scary already. I highly doubt though that Balaur was a pure carnivore, but still I wouldn't mined seeing Balaur in Jurassic Park 4. I'll still be seeing it for the CGI and for the fun of it. I hope they don't mess it up.

Errr....what makes Balaur bondoc so special that it deserves to be the new villain dinosaur? It's not even Rex sized. To most film goers, it would be nothing more than a raptor with an extra sickle claw added.

The new dinosaur would probably be something extremely large, ferocious, and have a relatively short, memorable, easy to pronounce name (for marketing reasons)

The mindset of scales being more frightening than feathers actually makes sense. To most people, scaly skin represents something reptilian and unpleasant. Feathers (to me at least) bring to mind fur and cute fluffy animals. I'm not trying to bash on feathers (heck I don't mind feathered dinos most of time) but remember that JP is a thriller film first and foremost, and it makes sense that they would go with what looks "cool" rather than what is accurate.

an Army of angry Thirzinosaurs sounds pethetic.  Its a plant eater, yet the film would make it the vilian, making people wonder if its a meat eater and stick with it. as a result, any other type of media would follow suit. (Just like Spinosaurus, whose appeard in everything since JP3 and shown to be a Meat eater when in reality, it preferd fish in real life.)

I believe he was joking. It actually sounds pretty humourous if you think about it.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

an Army of angry Thirzinosaurs sounds pethetic.  Its a plant eater, yet the film would make it the vilian, making people wonder if its a meat eater and stick with it. as a result, any other type of media would follow suit. (Just like Spinosaurus, whose appeard in everything since JP3 and shown to be a Meat eater when in reality, it preferd fish in real life.)

...that is the type of misdirection that has always bothered me about the franchise. For no obvious reason, the factual information for the dinosaurs is distorted, incorrect or sensationalized. Examples abound. Spitting dilophosaurus, the large velociraptors, stegosaurus twice as large as real life, there are literally dozens of those kind of simple but badly mistakes.Although they raised awareness and made people think more when they see a dinosaur, they also implanted and emphasized many of the worst mistakes people make about them

[amargasaurus cazaui]

A few possible dinosaur villains come to mind....allosaurus would make a stunning predator. Cryolophosaurus, might offer a unique plot twist, "found in icy environs, the dinosaur was so well preserved that soft tissue samples were found that were frozen rather than fossilized" and voila you have an ugly little carnivore that would suit the bill.
My money is still with Baronyx. Having said that, a deinosuchus, while not a dinosaur, would make another superb villain.

[Takama]

A few possible dinosaur villains come to mind....allosaurus would make a stunning predator. Cryolophosaurus, might offer a unique plot twist, "found in icy environs, the dinosaur was so well preserved that soft tissue samples were found that were frozen rather than fossilized" and voila you have an ugly little carnivore that would suit the bill.
My money is still with Baronyx. Having said that, a deinosuchus, while not a dinosaur, would make another superb villain.

Then people would think its ripped from Lake Placid

[tyrantqueen]

A few possible dinosaur villains come to mind....allosaurus would make a stunning predator. Cryolophosaurus, might offer a unique plot twist, "found in icy environs, the dinosaur was so well preserved that soft tissue samples were found that were frozen rather than fossilized" and voila you have an ugly little carnivore that would suit the bill.
My money is still with Baronyx. Having said that, a deinosuchus, while not a dinosaur, would make another superb villain.

Cryolophosaurus would be interesting, but knowing the JP franchise they might do something stupid like give it freeze breath or something of that nature 

Allosaurus wouldn't be more than a downsized T-rex (that's what the vast majority of the general public see it as anyway), and Baryonyx has already been done by Spinosaurus in JP3, I can't really see what adding it in JP4 would bring to the table. Remember the JP formula: it has to bigger, scarier and more "cool" looking than the species before it.

Maybe Acrocanthosaurus? Megaraptor? Tyrannotitan? I still think the villain is going to be Giganotosaurus, personally (even though I'm not a huge Giga fan)

...Or maybe they might resurrect that terrible idea of having Carnotaurus with chameleon-esque camo abilities. I really hope not

[Takama]

Maybe they will use Saurophaganax, and call it an allosaurs.   Just like they used Deinonychus and called it a Velociraptor in the entire franchise

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Allosaurus might be percieved by many as just a smaller tyrannosaurus type, but the reality of the animal might allow much more. Remember an allosaurus could in effect expand its jaws similar to a snake swallowing prey, had three clawed powerful hands, and was also quite likely a pack hunter. Likely more rapid on its feet, and also the design of the teeth similar to knives.
  Not all of the villians chosen are large and powerful, remember Dilophosaurus, and the Velociraptors. I still like Baronyx, and just as with allosaurus and tyrannosaurus, comparing spinosaurus to baronyx to me at least misses much of the point. You have to remember, spinosaurus is a spinosaurid and baronyx is a  member of the family Baryonychinae. Also the holotype specimen of Baronyx was found in association with bones from an Iguanodon suggesting a possibility this dinosaur was a predator as well as piscavore. The holotype specimen of this dinosaur was ten feet long, but not fully mature. There are possibilities there

[Gwangi]

I don't think Baronyx will be the dinosaur of choice. It basically looks like a smaller Spinosaurus without the sail. That would be like using Albertosaurus in place of Tyrannosaurus. I'm thinking it will be something big and/or unique like Acrocanthosaurus. Maybe even Deinocheirus, Terizinosaurus or Gigantoraptor though I would hate to see any of those featherless. Also I am aware that these dinosaurs may have been herbivores/omnivores but that might not stop the writers from using them, plus any of them eating a person would be no more shocking than a chicken eating a grasshopper. Ultimately I think it will end up Carnotaurus or a similar theropod. Not particularly large but certainly interesting and scary looking. Or maybe we're all off on this and it will be one of the smaller theropods being replaced. What I would really like to see is Dilophosaurus again, maybe even actual size.

[Patrx]

Well, if they insist on replacing the rex again, Giganotosaurus seems a likely pick to me. I wonder if they'd change the name to "Gigantosaurus", or, heaven forbid, Primeval's "G-Rex".
I'd approve of the camouflaged Carnotaurus - it's something from the novels, and can't be effectively ruled out for the real animal. Note, of course, that chameleons don't generally use their colors for camouflage; that's more common in cephalopods and fish. If a Carno were added to the series, I really doubt it'd be very accurate. As seen in Terra Nova, some liberties tend to be taken to make that absurd-looking beast seem more threatening, particularly with the forelimbs.
I can't say I'd be too interested in seeing a new dromaeosaur or similar unless it were  updated and feathery - and that's evidently not happening.
Honestly, as far as the franchise has fallen, I still doubt they'd include something as outrageous as a Cryolophosaurus with freeze-breath.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I have to vote for the Carnotaurus..it was terrifying in the novels and had excellent scenes. It's abilities were far beyond a chameleon to be honest. It was pretty much like it wasn't there at all. Seeing that ability in 3D and popping out of the screen is worthy of a few shocks I'd warrant.

[Primeval12]

Something pre-dinosaur (Dimetrodon, Therocephalian, Inostrancevia ect.) or post-dinosaur (Terror birds, Smilodon, Mammoths ect.) could porvide a cool twist to the trilogy

[Takama]

I have to vote for the Carnotaurus..it was terrifying in the novels and had excellent scenes. It's abilities were far beyond a chameleon to be honest. It was pretty much like it wasn't there at all. Seeing that ability in 3D and popping out of the screen is worthy of a few shocks I'd warrant.

I always imagined the Carnotour as a Torpedo with teeth. Running after humans with its light legs and snatching up anyone who trys to escape with ease.
Also, If the make it like in the book i hope that they dont just laziliy make disappear, and instead make it aparrent that its a liveing creture and not a ghost

Allosaurus might be percieved by many as just a smaller tyrannosaurus type, but the reality of the animal might allow much more. Remember an allosaurus could in effect expand its jaws similar to a snake swallowing prey, had three clawed powerful hands, and was also quite likely a pack hunter. Likely more rapid on its feet, and also the design of the teeth similar to knives.
  Not all of the villians chosen are large and powerful, remember Dilophosaurus, and the Velociraptors. I still like Baronyx, and just as with allosaurus and tyrannosaurus, comparing spinosaurus to baronyx to me at least misses much of the point. You have to remember, spinosaurus is a spinosaurid and baronyx is a  member of the family Baryonychinae. Also the holotype specimen of Baronyx was found in association with bones from an Iguanodon suggesting a possibility this dinosaur was a predator as well as piscavore. The holotype specimen of this dinosaur was ten feet long, but not fully mature. There are possibilities there

I find it more that it scavenged the dead Iguanodon

[amargasaurus cazaui]

There is of course that possibility, but what evidence can be given for that? On the other hand it is also possible both dinosaurs died in the same place at different times and were never interacted at all. For my own money I think Baronyx was an opportunist and would kill smaller prey, fish, or scavenge if needed.
  Also remember, the carnotaurus was itself just not that large of a dinosaur...and how menacing is something going to be with those ridiculous arms?
  One hope i might suggest is this time they use some of the more basal types of dinosaur that were hinted at in the novels....ie, microceratus for instance. A nice hill of Psittacosaurus would be an amusing sight as well.....

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

There is of course that possibility, but what evidence can be given for that? On the other hand it is also possible both dinosaurs died in the same place at different times and were never interacted at all. For my own money I think Baronyx was an opportunist and would kill smaller prey, fish, or scavenge if needed.
  Also remember, the carnotaurus was itself just not that large of a dinosaur...and how menacing is something going to be with those ridiculous arms?
  One hope i might suggest is this time they use some of the more basal types of dinosaur that were hinted at in the novels....ie, microceratus for instance. A nice hill of Psittacosaurus would be an amusing sight as well.....

I don't think anyone will even notice the arms ..have you read the novel ?

Here's a few pics to get the gist :




Imagine the Predator crossed with a theropod dinosaur..

[Takama]

I said it could be a Torpedo with teeth. The Sideshow model is what im thinking of.   No one should give a crap about the arms(only those who would make sure there small). the Dino can be scary without them,

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Wait, so the argument being made here is given the imaginary ability to shift colors and blend similar to the character predator, we will fail to notice the dinosaur is both small, and had idiotic forearms? Will he also be able to cast lighting bolts with his horns?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Wait, so the argument being made here is given the imaginary ability to shift colors and blend similar to the character predator, we will fail to notice the dinosaur is both small, and had idiotic forearms? Will he also be able to cast lighting bolts with his horns?

lol Who knows ?  They aren't that small really...and size has no bearing on scare factor..just look at the dromeosaurs, Comys, ect..



Has tiny forearms ? Well T-Rex has em' as well...still scary though. 

Now if an Allosaurus somehow makes it into the film I will be triple excited.

[tyrantqueen]

Also remember, the carnotaurus was itself just not that large of a dinosaur...and how menacing is something going to be with those ridiculous arms?

Of course...but this is JP, they never stick to the correct size of dinosaurs  They'd probably turn it into a giant and make it look like it's on steroids (ala Disney's Dinosaur)

Honestly, as far as the franchise has fallen, I still doubt they'd include something as outrageous as a Cryolophosaurus with freeze-breath.

I guess I'm just a pessimist when it comes to films, especially sequels.