Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I was on the understanding this new feature takes place on an Island off of Florida, so I am unsure why there would be any old park or accomodations for such present..ie half the island fenced? The old park was an entirely different geographical location if I understand this all correctly. Unless this new spin is placed in some continuity outside the previous pictures or stories. Not sure there, but wondering.

From what's been said so far it takes place on Isla Nublar ( as referenced by the pic of the IN:JW ferry I posted on the last page ) which apparently was demolished as was said in The Lost World. It's apparently being built exactly on the more undeveloped half of the island with the old Park fenced off. 

[amargasaurus cazaui]

THE PARK Building on our original scoop: JURASSIC WORLD will be a real running theme park, complete with a monorail (as teased in recent concept art above), shops, rides, and shows. It's the most popular theme park and a family destination. To get there you have to take a high speed shuttle boat from Florida. Inside the park there are a multitude of activities, including a Dino petting zoo and a Hologram info center where you can learn about the methods they are using to create dinosaurs (an enhanced version of the original one). One of the rides is called a "Gyrosphere" that you can get in and ride around in the wild to get up close to the Dinos. - See more at: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-details-on-jurassic-world-the-park-the-dinos-more#sthash.FMTHQfaB.dpuf



This was part of your posting, Blade. So your saying they are taking high speed boats from Florida to the Island near Costa Rica? That would seem rather ridiculous and unlikely given the distance and would be simpler to go from perhaps Texas or one of the closer states.Are you sure this is correct? Costa Rica sits at the very tip of the southern part of continent.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

THE PARK Building on our original scoop: JURASSIC WORLD will be a real running theme park, complete with a monorail (as teased in recent concept art above), shops, rides, and shows. It's the most popular theme park and a family destination. To get there you have to take a high speed shuttle boat from Florida. Inside the park there are a multitude of activities, including a Dino petting zoo and a Hologram info center where you can learn about the methods they are using to create dinosaurs (an enhanced version of the original one). One of the rides is called a "Gyrosphere" that you can get in and ride around in the wild to get up close to the Dinos. - See more at: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-details-on-jurassic-world-the-park-the-dinos-more#sthash.FMTHQfaB.dpuf



This was part of your posting, Blade. So your saying they are taking high speed boats from Florida to the Island near Costa Rica? That would seem rather ridiculous and unlikely given the distance and would be simpler to go from perhaps Texas or one of the closer states.Are you sure this is correct? Costa Rica sits at the very tip of the southern part of continent.

Oh I know..we're having a good laugh about it on JPL.  Either someone forgot where Costa Rica is or they've changed the script..that or are taking some super sonic ferry though the panama canal.. lol

Honestly I have no idea, that bit of info doesn't add up with the Ferry that says Nublar on it here :


Maybe were getting some intentional mis-information ?

[amargasaurus cazaui]

THE PARK Building on our original scoop: JURASSIC WORLD will be a real running theme park, complete with a monorail (as teased in recent concept art above), shops, rides, and shows. It's the most popular theme park and a family destination. To get there you have to take a high speed shuttle boat from Florida. Inside the park there are a multitude of activities, including a Dino petting zoo and a Hologram info center where you can learn about the methods they are using to create dinosaurs (an enhanced version of the original one). One of the rides is called a "Gyrosphere" that you can get in and ride around in the wild to get up close to the Dinos. - See more at: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-details-on-jurassic-world-the-park-the-dinos-more#sthash.FMTHQfaB.dpuf



This was part of your posting, Blade. So your saying they are taking high speed boats from Florida to the Island near Costa Rica? That would seem rather ridiculous and unlikely given the distance and would be simpler to go from perhaps Texas or one of the closer states.Are you sure this is correct? Costa Rica sits at the very tip of the southern part of continent.

Oh I know..we're having a good laugh about it on JPL.  Either someone forgot where Costa Rica is or they've changed the script..that or are taking some super sonic ferry though the panama canal.. lol

Honestly I have no idea, that bit of info doesn't add up with the Ferry that says Nublar on it here :


Maybe were getting some intentional mis-information ?

or possibly.......
I noticed if you enlarge and zoom where it gives the ships name and look quite closely there seems to be a number 2 hidden behind one of the boom arms.Isla Nubular 2? Could just be my eyes playing tricks and it wouldnt be the first time, but it does kinda look like a number two hiding back there.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Here's an enlarged pic , no number 2 there though bud :

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Nope no two in that view for sure, who knows? Perhaps they named an island off Florida Isla Nublar or something.....

[SpartanSquat]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

Remember this dude. Jurassic Park have its canon, explain why in 20 years velociraptor or tyrannosaurus suddenly have feathers. Science changed dinosaurs, but no in the universe of the movie. Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.

Actually that's not entirely true.  In the first novel the plan from the beginning was to create dinosaurs and replace them with newer versions ala software revisions.  They'd already done it many times in the book as you can see the version number when Grant and the others are looking at the motion trackers. Wu in the novel even wanted to alter them further, make them slower, more docile and easier to control.

All they would have to do in the film is have a character explain they updated the " software ".   But. These dinosaurs from the film have a trademarked " look " to them that everyone knows is JP and that's what they want to see so that's really why no feathered dinos.

Maybe you are right. I think the new dinosaurs are new version, like the novel. But why make a spliced mutant? Only to make more espectacular for the guests and movie viewers?

[DinoToyForum]

I've decided to ignore it all - it is only rumours anyway, and it doesn't stack up. I presumed the information was authoritative but it's not. So, my Jurassic World desktop stays...for now. 

[Paleogene Pals]

I also wonder why would the shuttle only be leaving from Florida? Why not New Orleans, Houston, or even Mexico? Considering all the tourist stuff and activities there, a shuttle from the Yucatan makes sense to me. 

I thought the ferry in the foreground said 'Ukraine'. I have a friend, Vlad, who is really into collecting Ukrainian things.

[DinoToyForum]

I have a friend, Vlad, who is really into collecting Ukrainian things.

You know Putin!!!? [/topical humour]

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think we should of lost hope ever since the director said "No Feathers"

Remember this dude. Jurassic Park have its canon, explain why in 20 years velociraptor or tyrannosaurus suddenly have feathers. Science changed dinosaurs, but no in the universe of the movie. Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.

Actually that's not entirely true.  In the first novel the plan from the beginning was to create dinosaurs and replace them with newer versions ala software revisions.  They'd already done it many times in the book as you can see the version number when Grant and the others are looking at the motion trackers. Wu in the novel even wanted to alter them further, make them slower, more docile and easier to control.

All they would have to do in the film is have a character explain they updated the " software ".   But. These dinosaurs from the film have a trademarked " look " to them that everyone knows is JP and that's what they want to see so that's really why no feathered dinos.

Maybe you are right. I think the new dinosaurs are new version, like the novel. But why make a spliced mutant? Only to make more espectacular for the guests and movie viewers?

If this is all true then probably.  It was actually said by one cast member there was a dinosaur altered for entertainment purposes..reminded me of a story in an anthology I read where a Disney-like company created a living Deinonychus, installed rubber teeth in him, covered his claws with big rubber shoes and hands and taught him to dance for children. Thing is he still has instincts that can be triggered..I need yo look up the name of that story again.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I've decided to ignore it all - it is only rumours anyway, and it doesn't stack up. I presumed the information was authoritative but it's not. So, my Jurassic World desktop stays...for now. 

It's pretty annoying..a lot of what they said is old news we've had confirmed elsewhere, the new bits though don't quite add up as you said.  The website that announced it is known for having their facts straight though from what I've been told.  If they are basing this info on an outdated script which could be possible, it would explain a lot. Maybe they are just open to errors like any person but they should check their facts more. The JP fans have been through enough.  I swear I thought some of us were going to have a heart attack yesterday.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I also wonder why would the shuttle only be leaving from Florida? Why not New Orleans, Houston, or even Mexico? Considering all the tourist stuff and activities there, a shuttle from the Yucatan makes sense to me. 

I thought the ferry in the foreground said 'Ukraine'. I have a friend, Vlad, who is really into collecting Ukrainian things.

Would have made more sense if by " shuttle " they meant a plane . That's a big error in the script so maybe this info is old.

Wow your friend must have some big bucks if he might interested in a Ferry with Ukraine on it. lol 

[HD-man]

In regards to the tamed dinos issue, zoos do " tame " their animals with regular feeding schedules and to make them easier to handle and deal with.  This new Park has been operational for some years in the universe canon so some animals may have developed something of a bond with their handler.  We really don't know what " tamed " means but as long as they aren't used as hunting dogs or something similar it could be okay.  Maybe they react to certain sounds or colors and the new dino is tricked into mimicking that..then it's attacked ?

That's why I don't have a problem w/certain JP dinos being tamed. Makes me wonder why so many other ppl here do? I'm not so sure about the hybrid dino, though. Reminds me of the Ultimasaur from the Chaos Effect toy line ( http://babbletrish.deviantart.com/art/It-s-the-Ultimasaur-160739186 ).

Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! Imagine in 10 year how many things will change. The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.
@Blade: I really like your theory, I hope you will be right dude.

To quote Inigo Montoya (in reference to "theories"/"theory"), "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[tyrantqueen]

That's why I don't have a problem w/certain JP dinos being tamed.

I have a problem with it because it seems at odds with the message given out in the first film. In the original, it was the arrogance of the Ingen company that made them think they could control the dinosaurs (basically messing with nature), and it backfired on them.

[Gwangi]

I guess it partly depends on just how tame they are. If they're tame enough simply to hand feed that is one thing but if they're so tame they're actually trying to protect the humans like a police dog or something than I draw the line. We don't want tame dinosaurs, he want primal dinosaurs that could care less about if we live or die.

[Takama]

For some reason. I think they might go with police/militarey tame dinosaurs.   Remember those humanoid abominations that they were planning on unleashing upon the world?  If I remember correctly they were going to used as some kind of aid to the humans.   What if that concept is still taken only with normal dinosaurs?

[tyrantqueen]

I'm thinking that if this movie turns out to be bad, one of two things will happen:

1. It will kill off the movie franchise.
2. They'll reboot the whole series, starting over from scratch, something they've been doing a lot with comic book movies as of late.

Maybe someone should send a tweet to Colin Trevorrow asking if this news is true or not. I really hope it isn't

[DinoToyForum]

The scratch marks on the wall of the paddock show that whatever made it had three claws. So, unless they are kick marks (unlikely!) it isn't a rex or Carnotaurus paddock. Presuming the new dinos are that accurate....

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

[tyrantqueen]

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Giganotosaurus?