Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

[fabricious]

Wolverine? Sorry, I had to.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

In regards to the tamed dinos issue, zoos do " tame " their animals with regular feeding schedules and to make them easier to handle and deal with.  This new Park has been operational for some years in the universe canon so some animals may have developed something of a bond with their handler.  We really don't know what " tamed " means but as long as they aren't used as hunting dogs or something similar it could be okay.  Maybe they react to certain sounds or colors and the new dino is tricked into mimicking that..then it's attacked ?

That's why I don't have a problem w/certain JP dinos being tamed. Makes me wonder why so many other ppl here do? I'm not so sure about the hybrid dino, though. Reminds me of the Ultimasaur from the Chaos Effect toy line ( http://babbletrish.deviantart.com/art/It-s-the-Ultimasaur-160739186 ).

Thorne in The Lost World novel said that all our vision of dinosaurs or science its only theories that in 40 years probably will change, look Deinocheirus. When it was discovered, it was thought to be a simply giant ornithomimosaur and now its a strange chimera of duck, dromedary camel, sloth and ostrich. Or Therizinosaurus, it was thought to be a turtle rib! Imagine in 10 year how many things will change. The only way to see feathered dinosaurs in a JP movie its in a reboot of the series.
@Blade: I really like your theory, I hope you will be right dude.

To quote Inigo Montoya (in reference to "theories"/"theory"), "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

The Ultimasaurus is exactly what I was thinking. it's been said the new dino's nickname is " dragon " ..which opens up a whole new can of worms.  :/

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

That's why I don't have a problem w/certain JP dinos being tamed.

I have a problem with it because it seems at odds with the message given out in the first film. In the original, it was the arrogance of the Ingen company that made them think they could control the dinosaurs (basically messing with nature), and it backfired on them.

In the first novel Dr.Wu wanted to update the animals in the park with new versions that would be slower and more docile, making them easier to handle. So I can see trainers and such walking with and " handling" a Triceratops/brachiosaur/hadrosaur much like they do elephants..which can be dangerous but for the most part aren't..especially if Wu has " fixed " them.  I don't really think the Rex and Raptors will be like that..people do walk in to cages with them and pet them and such but even then it's a calculated risk.  We won't be seeing Grumpy and Will Ferrel's relationship from Land of the Lost I assure you.

I could see the Rex being freed from it's pen and " defending "the humans as it hates the new dino more..much like in the first film near the end with the raptor battle.

As far as arrogance goes in the face of nature..creating a whole new super predator should fill that gap..then the T-Rex can tear it apart and show us the arrogance of our ways.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

For some reason. I think they might go with police/militarey tame dinosaurs.   Remember those humanoid abominations that they were planning on unleashing upon the world?  If I remember correctly they were going to used as some kind of aid to the humans.   What if that concept is still taken only with normal dinosaurs?

That was in the very first, years ago, script. It was said they trashed that concept though.  I think the only taming we'll see is in the zoo-sense.  small pterosaurs in an aviary landing on the trainer's arm, that sort of thing. Hopefully no mosasaur riding as with orcas at seaworld.

[HD-man]

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Giganotosaurus?

Gigantoraptor?

[Gwangi]

The scratch marks on the wall of the paddock show that whatever made it had three claws. So, unless they are kick marks (unlikely!) it isn't a rex or Carnotaurus paddock. Presuming the new dinos are that accurate....

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Any reason not to assume they're from Velociraptor?

[brandem]

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Giganotosaurus?

Gigantoraptor?

Utahraptor?

[Takama]

What about everyone's favorite Sailed back monster from the third film?

[DinoToyForum]

The scratch marks on the wall of the paddock show that whatever made it had three claws. So, unless they are kick marks (unlikely!) it isn't a rex or Carnotaurus paddock. Presuming the new dinos are that accurate....

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Any reason not to assume they're from Velociraptor?

Just the size.

[brandem]

If they are indeed going to have some sort of genetic monster that didn't represent an actual species I would hope that I wouldn't be something intentionally done to draw crowd. I mean would it really? Would people pay some amount of money to see a freak in a cage now adays. It's kind of a disturbing idea.  I'd personally rather it be an accidental creation that they kept alive to study so they didn't repeat their mistakes. A creature whose intelligence they perhaps did not understand, forever damaged by its' solitude.

As for the idea of "training" dinosaurs, maybe they are going to take the morals from blackfish that wild animal are never "tame".  I remember an article I read a couple years ago about the script before it got a rewrite, they were talking about having a mosasaur trained to do jumps which isn't terribly far fetched, lace monitors respond well to food triggers. However in the article they were feeding it a great white, and I thought yeah I feed my dog bald eagle all the time, if the screen writers are not smart enough to know a big portion of their audience would identify that as a protected species then I wouldn't hold out much hope for the script.

[tyrantqueen]

What large three clawed-dinos are there? Therizinosaurus is my speculative bet!

Giganotosaurus?

Gigantoraptor?

Utahraptor?

Deinocheirus? Okay, that's probably highly unlikely but it does have impressive claws.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

If they are indeed going to have some sort of genetic monster that didn't represent an actual species I would hope that I wouldn't be something intentionally done to draw crowd. I mean would it really? Would people pay some amount of money to see a freak in a cage now adays. It's kind of a disturbing idea.  I'd personally rather it be an accidental creation that they kept alive to study so they didn't repeat their mistakes. A creature whose intelligence they perhaps did not understand, forever damaged by its' solitude.

As for the idea of "training" dinosaurs, maybe they are going to take the morals from blackfish that wild animal are never "tame".  I remember an article I read a couple years ago about the script before it got a rewrite, they were talking about having a mosasaur trained to do jumps which isn't terribly far fetched, lace monitors respond well to food triggers. However in the article they were feeding it a great white, and I thought yeah I feed my dog bald eagle all the time, if the screen writers are not smart enough to know a big portion of their audience would identify that as a protected species then I wouldn't hold out much hope for the script.

Lots of those clawmarks look incorrect for a real dinosaur..though we know the JP dinos have incorrect hand positions you think that would be a small fix.

I've heard the new beast compared to Frankenstein by fans..seems to not be too far fetched..but I doubt we'll get much sympathy on it's side...especially if it's fighting our old favorites.   

I've been getting caught up on the nickname, Dragon, and wondering if it will perhaps look like one. Dragons vs dinosaurs, fantasy vs reality..an interesting idea.

The Mosa eating a great white was a piece of artwork if I recall..I can't remember if it was official though.  I doubt it. Though maybe they use shark, just not a rare species .

[Takama]

If they are indeed going to have some sort of genetic monster that didn't represent an actual species I would hope that I wouldn't be something intentionally done to draw crowd. I mean would it really? Would people pay some amount of money to see a freak in a cage now adays. It's kind of a disturbing idea.  I'd personally rather it be an accidental creation that they kept alive to study so they didn't repeat their mistakes. A creature whose intelligence they perhaps did not understand, forever damaged by its' solitude.

As for the idea of "training" dinosaurs, maybe they are going to take the morals from blackfish that wild animal are never "tame".  I remember an article I read a couple years ago about the script before it got a rewrite, they were talking about having a mosasaur trained to do jumps which isn't terribly far fetched, lace monitors respond well to food triggers. However in the article they were feeding it a great white, and I thought yeah I feed my dog bald eagle all the time, if the screen writers are not smart enough to know a big portion of their audience would identify that as a protected species then I wouldn't hold out much hope for the script.

Lots of those clawmarks look incorrect for a real dinosaur..though we know the JP dinos have incorrect hand positions you think that would be a small fix.

I've heard the new beast compared to Frankenstein by fans..seems to not be too far fetched..but I doubt we'll get much sympathy on it's side...especially if it's fighting our old favorites.   

I've been getting caught up on the nickname, Dragon, and wondering if it will perhaps look like one. Dragons vs dinosaurs, fantasy vs reality..an interesting idea.

The Mosa eating a great white was a piece of artwork if I recall..I can't remember if it was official though.  I doubt it. Though maybe they use shark, just not a rare species .

Maybe the creature is TF4s Grimlock with skin

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

If they are indeed going to have some sort of genetic monster that didn't represent an actual species I would hope that I wouldn't be something intentionally done to draw crowd. I mean would it really? Would people pay some amount of money to see a freak in a cage now adays. It's kind of a disturbing idea.  I'd personally rather it be an accidental creation that they kept alive to study so they didn't repeat their mistakes. A creature whose intelligence they perhaps did not understand, forever damaged by its' solitude.

As for the idea of "training" dinosaurs, maybe they are going to take the morals from blackfish that wild animal are never "tame".  I remember an article I read a couple years ago about the script before it got a rewrite, they were talking about having a mosasaur trained to do jumps which isn't terribly far fetched, lace monitors respond well to food triggers. However in the article they were feeding it a great white, and I thought yeah I feed my dog bald eagle all the time, if the screen writers are not smart enough to know a big portion of their audience would identify that as a protected species then I wouldn't hold out much hope for the script.

Lots of those clawmarks look incorrect for a real dinosaur..though we know the JP dinos have incorrect hand positions you think that would be a small fix.

I've heard the new beast compared to Frankenstein by fans..seems to not be too far fetched..but I doubt we'll get much sympathy on it's side...especially if it's fighting our old favorites.   

I've been getting caught up on the nickname, Dragon, and wondering if it will perhaps look like one. Dragons vs dinosaurs, fantasy vs reality..an interesting idea.

The Mosa eating a great white was a piece of artwork if I recall..I can't remember if it was official though.  I doubt it. Though maybe they use shark, just not a rare species .

Maybe the creature is TF4s Grimlock with skin

that would fit pretty well... lol

[DinoToyForum]

So, according to new leaks, the new freak dino will be called Diabolus rex. Well, at least I don't have to wait a whole year to be disappointed in Jurassic world, I can get it out of the way early! if these leaks are true, it sounds like JP is going the way of Walking with Dinosaurs, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien, and so on. Just another screwed up franchise.

[brandem]

Diabolis rex, this guy?

[SpartanSquat]

Its my idea or Jurassic World is turning in a thing like Alien Resurrection or Indiana Jones 4?

[Takama]

Well in turns I was right on thinking that they did not abandon the Dino aid humans, idea.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-details-on-jurassic-world-the-park-the-dinos-more


So a Freaking T-Rex is tamed so it can AID the humans to fight off the New abomination?  Somehow I fear we are going to have a whole generation of kids who will get bad ideas about dinosaurs from this movie.

[Yutyrannus]

That was already posted a while ago.

Somehow I fear we are going to have a whole generation of kids who will get bad ideas about dinosaurs from this movie.

That ship sailed a long time ago.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Well in turns I was right on thinking that they did not abandon the Dino aid humans, idea.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-details-on-jurassic-world-the-park-the-dinos-more


So a Freaking T-Rex is tamed so it can AID the humans to fight off the New abomination?  Somehow I fear we are going to have a whole generation of kids who will get bad ideas about dinosaurs from this movie.

Don't read so much into it. We already talked about how "tame " and " trained " can have many meanings you know ?

Where did you hear the name from Adam ? I haven't been online too much today.