Bye bye Dippy

[CrypticPrism]

^this.

Ugh. Sauropods one-upped again by a fat, not even blue, sausage-shaped fish mammmal.


I know whales are endangered and need help, but really? Really?

The only living lineage of marine animals that swim with vertical movement, or a scaley giraffe that doesn't even hold its neck entirely vertical.


That's you. That's what you sound like.

Really? So, just because a lineage evolved a feature none else have doesen't make it better. Horizontal undulation is more popular because there's no need for otherwise. That's like me saying that glaucus are the best type of sea slug because they evolved fan-like locomotors. Also, scaly giraffes? More like the first animal to actually conquer gigantism the right way, a living kaiju, compared to the Fat Albert of sea animals.

[stargatedalek]

I understand I can be temperamental but this relentless gibberish is becoming rapidly monotonous.

I deliberately went out of my way to emulate your expression and you not only take that literally but respond with childish insults and **** throwing. I'm done responding to this, I just want to emphasize that even one as aggressive and indignant as I often am isn't likely to put up with this sort of "banter".

[CrypticPrism]

I understand I can be temperamental but this relentless gibberish is becoming rapidly monotonous.

I deliberately went out of my way to emulate your expression and you not only take that literally but respond with childish insults and **** throwing. I'm done responding to this, I just want to emphasize that even one as aggressive and indignant as I often am isn't likely to put up with this sort of "banter".

Childlike insults? Last time I checked, I didn't say anything insulting towards you in that comment. You're taking what I said and literally bending it to make me seem like I just threatened to shove bleach down your throat like a 9 year old playing call of duty. Also, I don't know how me stating that I think sauropods deserve more attention is an attack or anything of the sort.

I don't want to start any kind of argument, but that was completely unnecessary and rude.

Anyways, I think it's time to switch back to the original topic.

While it's sad to see the almighty dippy go, I hope for the best reception possible for the new blue whale.

[Cloud the Dinosaur King]

Ugh. Sauropods one-upped again by a fat, not even blue, sausage-shaped fish mammmal.


I know whales are endangered and need help, but really? Really?

Here's what a Blue Whale looks like when it eats. It's not fat, it's just swollen with water.
Here's an original Blue Whale.

[CrypticPrism]

No, actually, the blue whale has a ridiculous amount of fat in its body. That's why whale blubber was used to make lamps: it's rich in fat, which is highly flammable.

[Cloud the Dinosaur King]

No, actually, the blue whale has a ridiculous amount of fat in its body. That's why whale blubber was used to make lamps: it's rich in fat, which is highly flammable.

True, true.

[Appalachiosaurus]

No, actually, the blue whale has a ridiculous amount of fat in its body. That's why whale blubber was used to make lamps: it's rich in fat, which is highly flammable.

Even better! You've seen one sauropod, you've seen 'em all. Blue whales hold the record for biggest animal ever, a crocobird that went through a Torture rack has nothing on it! 

[CrypticPrism]

No, actually, the blue whale has a ridiculous amount of fat in its body. That's why whale blubber was used to make lamps: it's rich in fat, which is highly flammable.

Even better! You've seen one sauropod, you've seen 'em all. Blue whales hold the record for biggest animal ever, a crocobird that went through a Torture rack has nothing on it! 

At least sauropods were able to solve gigantism properly. Weight is their shameless excuse for their crown. If it was length, the dinosaurs would win in a heartbeat. Same as height. The only thing whales have going for them is their crazy amount of fat.

[Neosodon]

Saurapods had a lot more impact on the world. They survived for over a 100 million years and had a huge impact on the environment of the Mesozoic. Plus they are extinct so they are more interesting than whales and a better fit for a natural history museum.

No, actually, the blue whale has a ridiculous amount of fat in its body. That's why whale blubber was used to make lamps: it's rich in fat, which is highly flammable.

Even better! You've seen one sauropod, you've seen 'em all. Blue whales hold the record for biggest animal ever, a crocobird that went through a Torture rack has nothing on it! 

Sauropods are actually very diverse. Being big in water is not as big of an accomplishment as being big on land. Saurapods actually had to support their own weight.

[Daspletotyrannus]

Wasn't Dippy outdated?  The place also looks tall enough to have both up  so why can't they?  Maybe it is Dippy just outdated.  But I think from what I heard the Dinosaurs hall is also outdated.  Or did they fix that? But poor Dippy I remember seeing a documentary where Dippy came back to life. It had Jurassic Park John Hammond actor Richard Attenborough's brother David Attenborough in it.

[CrypticPrism]

Wasn't Dippy outdated?  The place also looks tall enough to have both up  so why can't they?  Maybe it is Dippy just outdated.  But I think from what I heard the Dinosaurs hall is also outdated.  Or did they fix that? But poor Dippy I remember seeing a documentary where Dippy came back to life. It had Jurassic Park John Hammond actor Richard Attenborough's brother David Attenborough in it.

http://naturalhistorymuseumalive.com

[Silvanusaurus]

Wow, this is a seriously childish argument. 'Whats better, a blue whale or a diplodocus?' Seriously? These are animals, not movie characters, they are each the result of their own incredible processes of evolution. An animal isnt invaliditated just because you think another one is cooler, they are as equally worthy of appreciation and awe as each other. I was awestruck when i visited and saw Dippy last year, but I'd find just as much wonder in seeing a blue whale skeleton in it's place. If anything, its more important to encourage visitors to discover the wonders of the world as it is today, the world that we are bending cruelly to our will, than as it was in an almost inconceivably distant age.
Also, change is vitally important for invigorating museums, not because seeing the same thing becomes boring, but so that the scope of people's knowledge is expanded. The NHM dinosaur exhibits were very out of date when i last went, more attention should be paid to that than whichever giant skeleton is shown off in the entrance hall.     

[Halichoeres]

Wow, this is a seriously childish argument. 'Whats better, a blue whale or a diplodocus?' Seriously? These are animals, not movie characters, they are each the result of their own incredible processes of evolution. An animal isnt invaliditated just because you think another one is cooler, they are as equally worthy of appreciation and awe as each other. I was awestruck when i visited and saw Dippy last year, but I'd find just as much wonder in seeing a blue whale skeleton in it's place. If anything, its more important to encourage visitors to discover the wonders of the world as it is today, the world that we are bending cruelly to our will, than as it was in an almost inconceivably distant age.
Also, change is vitally important for invigorating museums, not because seeing the same thing becomes boring, but so that the scope of people's knowledge is expanded. The NHM dinosaur exhibits were very out of date when i last went, more attention should be paid to that than whichever giant skeleton is shown off in the entrance hall.   

That sounds about right.

[Neosodon]

Arguing about which animal is more impressive is kind of silly but some times children just like to brag about their favorite animals and there is not really anything wrong with that.

My only real disagreement with the decision is that blue wales are not extinct. If someone wants to see modern animals they can go to zoo's and aquariums. Natural History Museums should be dedicated to displaying prehistoric life. If it was something like a Megalodon or a prehistoric whale I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Halichoeres]

Arguing about which animal is more impressive is kind of silly but some times children just like to brag about their favorite animals and there is not really anything wrong with that.

My only real disagreement with the decision is that blue wales are not extinct. If someone wants to see modern animals they can go to zoo's and aquariums. Natural History Museums should be dedicated to displaying prehistoric life. If it was something like a Megalodon or a prehistoric whale I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As a person who works in a natural history museum, I respectfully disagree. Living plants and animals are just as much a part of natural history, and just as important to the mission of a museum. I don't have a dog in this fight--my own museum features a Tyrannosaurus and a pair of elephants in the main hall--but both modern and ancient life are emphatically in the purview of a museum unless it's a dedicated dinosaur museum like you find in the remoter parts of the western US.

[CrypticPrism]

Arguing about which animal is more impressive is kind of silly but some times children just like to brag about their favorite animals and there is not really anything wrong with that.

My only real disagreement with the decision is that blue wales are not extinct. If someone wants to see modern animals they can go to zoo's and aquariums. Natural History Museums should be dedicated to displaying prehistoric life. If it was something like a Megalodon or a prehistoric whale I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As a person who works in a natural history museum, I respectfully disagree. Living plants and animals are just as much a part of natural history, and just as important to the mission of a museum. I don't have a dog in this fight--my own museum features a Tyrannosaurus and a pair of elephants in the main hall--but both modern and ancient life are emphatically in the purview of a museum unless it's a dedicated dinosaur museum like you find in the remoter parts of the western US.

This.

[Appalachiosaurus]

Sauropods are actually very diverse. Being big in water is not as big of an accomplishment as being big on land. Saurapods actually had to support their own weight.

Whales are like a round wheel, Sauropods like a square one. Sauropods fought a losing battle against gravity and after all that they've got to show for themselves is a measly 70 tons, Whales took the easy route with water livin' and look at where they are! Sitting on the top with 200 tons under their belt! It would take three Argentinosaurs to equal a Blue Whale in size.

[CrypticPrism]

Sauropods are actually very diverse. Being big in water is not as big of an accomplishment as being big on land. Saurapods actually had to support their own weight.

Whales are like a round wheel, Sauropods like a square one. Sauropods fought a losing battle against gravity and after all that they've got to show for themselves is a measly 70 tons, Whales took the easy route with water livin' and look at here they are! Sitting on the top with 200 tons under their belt! It would take three Argentinosaurs to equal a Blue Whale in size.

I've realized this argument is pointless. Praise your cetaceans or sauropods, I don't care anymore,

[Appalachiosaurus]

I mean, this is so obviously a joke  am kind of wondering how people are taking it seriously in the first place. They are both big ol' animals that are shaped by different environments and times, comparing them is pretty silly. Dippy may be gone, but I am glad that she will be replaced with a real skeleton of an animal that is in desperate need of some help at the moment. The whole Whales>Sauropods is just fun bickering.

[deanm]

Warning - the below is an attempt at humour.

If they want to have something in the air then put Quetzalcoatlus there instead. Just like the Royal Ontario Museum did. 

This advocacy brought to you courtesy of the Fans Loving Airborne Pterosaurs  (FLAP) Club...