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Other than Papo/Rebor what company comes close?

Started by Khanosaurus, November 17, 2017, 04:25:48 PM

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Khanosaurus

Curios if there is another company that comes close to Papo Pap and Rebor in the detail department. Any reccomendations?


BlueKrono

If you're interested in resins at all, Sideshow's pieces have stellar detail, but a rather high price.
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KeU

The now dead PNSO?
Or the upcoming Vitae?
Both have great details. And more accurate than PAPO or Rebor.

ImADinosaurRARR

Creative Beast Studios is gorgeous. I know the sceme lines put some people off, but the feather and scale detail is better then Papo in my opinion. Maybe not Rebor. I don't have any of those figures.

paintingdinos

#4
For sculpt detail I'd say PNSO certainly comes close, though paint application is better overal for Pap/Rebor.

The Creative Beasts raptors haven't shipped out yet, so I can't say for sure, but the line definitely looks amazing from all of the production images. I'm extremely excited to get mine, and hope we see way more lines in the future.

Faelrin

If we're strictly talking about sculpted detail, I think Safari Ltd's recent figures have become strong there. However most figures are just on the small side, and the paint schemes might not be as detailed as Papo or Rebor though.

I'd second or third everyone's suggestions of PNSO, Vitae, and Creative Beast Studio's Beasts of the Mesozoic line (if you like action figures that is).
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Lanthanotus

#6
I only own one Itoy model (Ceratosaurus), from that I'd say they are in a league with Papo and Rebor. Also I'd like to add, that there are single figures from several companies that are very intricate in detail - Safari's Nasuceratops spings in mind, aswell as Carnegie's Beipiaosaurus or several figures by Favorite. Paintjobs though, that may be another question ;)




PS: Just corrected a typo.

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Fenestra

I would like to think that Papo/Rebor try to come close to Desktop models from Favorite and Dinostoreus.
And Safari ltd. should be on that list as well.
It has some real gems.

Khanosaurus

Quote from: Lanthanotus on November 17, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
I only own one Itoy model (Ceratosaurus), from that I'd say they are in a league with Papo and Rebor. Also I'd like to add, that there are single figures from several companies that are very intricate in detail - Safari's Nasuceratops spings in mind, aswell as Carnegie's Beipiaosaurus or several figures by Favorite. Paintjobs though, that may be another question ;)


Does the ITOY Ceratosaurus go well on display with Papo and Rebor models? Have been interested in this figure but not sure if I am fully committed due to its really expensive price

PS: Just corrected a typo.

IrritatorRaji

The newer Safari stuff is beautiful. I wasn't into Safari too much til I bought their 2016 T.Rex and, lemma tell ya, I love it more than any of my Papo figures. I plan to buy all the 2016 figures I missed out on and I'm waiting eagerly to get my hands on their 2017 releases.

Shonisaurus

The said PNSO and Vitae are very close to the patterns of hyper-realism of Papo / Rebor with the difference that the dinosaurs of PNSO have noticed that they try to make them according to the latest scientific research. The PNSO sinosauropteryx in miniature its color is based on the latest discoveries about that dinosaur whose colors are calculated to be brown and with the tail ringed like the lemur.

On the other hand the PNSO microraptor models of China with stamps and that is also miniature is done with a bright black color as they claim valid redundancy in the latest discoveries on how their plumage should be according to new paleontological studies.

tanystropheus

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Quote from: Khanosaurus on November 17, 2017, 04:25:48 PM
Curios if there is another company that comes close to Papo Pap and Rebor in the detail department. Any reccomendations?

PNSO
Vitae
Sideshow
Eofauna is a company to watch out for in the near future.

That's pretty much it unless you include a few random models by Carnegie and WS (e.g. Tylosaurus, Beipiaosaurus, Dunkleosteus, Icthyosaurus, Postosuchus, Gastonia, Tapejara, Rhamphorhynchus etc.). A few more randoms from Favorite (e.g. Styracosaurus, Ankylosaurus ...)....oh, and the CollectA Dimorphodon if you don't mind bright colors.

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Mirroraptor

When we're talking about dinosaur figures, we always remember the brands who focus on animal models but forget other interesting(and also high quality)figures.
For example, SEGA's big dinosaur series, The T.rex was sculpted by Hirokazu Tokugawa and Shinzen Takeuchi. Also X-PLUS has produced several great prehistoric figures. And-Does anyone remember Kaiyodo? Both of them with high accuracy and high artistic value.
And don't have blind faith in resin kit. Many-or I mean most resin kit not worth the price. Even some of them-their sculpture details and accuracy are not even as good as some good but cheap toys.

RobinGoodfellow

Quote from: Mirroraptor on November 30, 2017, 05:54:50 AM
And don't have blind faith in resin kit. Many-or I mean most resin kit not worth the price. Even some of them-their sculpture details and accuracy are not even as good as some good but cheap toys.

..to be honest, I've never seen a resin kit less detailed than a PVC/Vinyl toy..

That's what I have in my collection:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130140542@N03/albums/72157661032161935

Shonisaurus

I prefer the resin figures to those of PVC or vinyl, for a simple reason although they are more expensive and obviously more fragile they are more perfectly modeled as Robin says, and apart from that they are paleoartistically more precise with difference on the rest of the companies of toys.

The resin figures of dinosaurs and prehistoric animals are obviously intended entirely for a mature and adult audience.

It is not the same a resin collection figure to a simple toy no matter how well a company does it. The very high sums of money attest to this.

Mirroraptor

Quote from: RobinGoodfellow on November 30, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: Mirroraptor on November 30, 2017, 05:54:50 AM
And don't have blind faith in resin kit. Many-or I mean most resin kit not worth the price. Even some of them-their sculpture details and accuracy are not even as good as some good but cheap toys.

..to be honest, I've never seen a resin kit less detailed than a PVC/Vinyl toy..

That's what I have in my collection:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130140542@N03/albums/72157661032161935
The good details doesn't mean more details. All the skin folds should be relevant to dynamics and anatomic structure. A good example is Safari Carnegie's figures, although they have fuzzy skin texture, but still looks comfortable.
How about resin kits?......I don't want to be identified. But it's a common problem for a sculptor who has not been trained in sculpture or is lack of observation and understanding.

RobinGoodfellow

Quote from: Mirroraptor on December 04, 2017, 05:02:23 AM
Quote from: RobinGoodfellow on November 30, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: Mirroraptor on November 30, 2017, 05:54:50 AM
And don't have blind faith in resin kit. Many-or I mean most resin kit not worth the price. Even some of them-their sculpture details and accuracy are not even as good as some good but cheap toys.

..to be honest, I've never seen a resin kit less detailed than a PVC/Vinyl toy..

That's what I have in my collection:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130140542@N03/albums/72157661032161935
The good details doesn't mean more details. All the skin folds should be relevant to dynamics and anatomic structure. A good example is Safari Carnegie's figures, although they have fuzzy skin texture, but still looks comfortable.
How about resin kits?......I don't want to be identified. But it's a common problem for a sculptor who has not been trained in sculpture or is lack of observation and understanding.

Some comparison pictures about what you're talking will be appreciated.
Thank you.

Mirroraptor

Quote from: RobinGoodfellow on December 04, 2017, 07:14:05 AM
Quote from: Mirroraptor on December 04, 2017, 05:02:23 AM
Quote from: RobinGoodfellow on November 30, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: Mirroraptor on November 30, 2017, 05:54:50 AM
And don't have blind faith in resin kit. Many-or I mean most resin kit not worth the price. Even some of them-their sculpture details and accuracy are not even as good as some good but cheap toys.

..to be honest, I've never seen a resin kit less detailed than a PVC/Vinyl toy..

That's what I have in my collection:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130140542@N03/albums/72157661032161935
The good details doesn't mean more details. All the skin folds should be relevant to dynamics and anatomic structure. A good example is Safari Carnegie's figures, although they have fuzzy skin texture, but still looks comfortable.
How about resin kits?......I don't want to be identified. But it's a common problem for a sculptor who has not been trained in sculpture or is lack of observation and understanding.

Some comparison pictures about what you're talking will be appreciated.
Thank you.

I don't want to say "who's model kit" for this carnotaurus kit(If this artist saw this article, please forgive me-I'm just speak frankly.),
You can compare this to Safari Carnegie Carnotaurus:
From muscle, skin detail, even each point, line and plane.

Patrx

When comparing resin kits and plastic figures, the primary reason for the price difference is the material itself, and by extension, the casting process. That's to say, it's cheaper and faster to make copies of an original sculpt in plastic using a production-line type process, but somewhat more detail is lost, and things like mold seams are generally more apparent. Additionally, paint application  of plastic figures is done quickly and simply in most cases.

I suppose my point is, until the production process itself, making a plastic dinosaur toy is the same as making a resin kit, and therefore, there's not really any reason to expect resin kits to be more accurate from a scientific point of view, just closer to the original sculpt - and, generally, finished and painted meticulously by hobbyists instead of quickly painted by underpaid workers in a factory using two or three colors.

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