Mojo Fun: New for 2018

[Simon]

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I think the only thing this accusation shows is you judge people too much when they disagree with your opinion.  I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

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It makes sense that those who buy the Papo Baryonyx are also people who like the figure, and that those who dislike the figure wouldn't buy it.  Due to how incongruous some of its features are, the Papo Baryonyx's worth is quite subjective.  You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid.

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Sim - I nominate this for funniest post of the year.  You had me rolling at: "I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists."

But when I got to: "You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid." - I would have been shooting my soda out my nose (had I been drinking a soda at the time)....

[Reptilia]

Papo Baryonyx is a cool piece of art, Mojo Baryonyx is nothing more than a decent chinasaur. To each their own!

[suspsy]

I've always felt that the Baryonyx's head would be better suited for an updated Spinosaurus, although it would still have its accuracy issues.

Also, is it really possible to have "aggressive feelings" towards a toy? I mean, sure, I've seen my share of bad dinosaur toys and even reviewed a number of them for the blog, but I don't recall ever coming across one that was so hideously and irredeemably awful that I felt an uncontrollable urge to throw it out a window or smash it with a hammer or drag it behind my car.

[tanystropheus]

Most folks that tend to harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the Bary have never held one in hand.

I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

You just contradicted yourself.

[tanystropheus]

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I think the only thing this accusation shows is you judge people too much when they disagree with your opinion.  I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

*snip*

It makes sense that those who buy the Papo Baryonyx are also people who like the figure, and that those who dislike the figure wouldn't buy it.  Due to how incongruous some of its features are, the Papo Baryonyx's worth is quite subjective.  You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid.

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Sim - I nominate this for funniest post of the year.  You had me rolling at: "I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists."

But when I got to: "You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid." - I would have been shooting my soda out my nose (had I been drinking a soda at the time)....

LOL.

His post totally proved my point. I'm actually quite surprised. He's usually pretty good at masking his feelings, though.

[tanystropheus]

I've always felt that the Baryonyx's head would be better suited for an updated Spinosaurus, although it would still have its accuracy issues.

Also, is it really possible to have "aggressive feelings" towards a toy?

It's very possible. 

[tyrantqueen]

Most folks that tend to harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the Bary have never held one in hand.

I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

You just contradicted yourself.

I don't think so. I have a lot of memories of bad things that happened in my past that I am not angry about, but wish I could forget. I'm sure a lot of people are the same.

Maybe people are getting defensive because they happen to like the Bary, and so they perceive judgement from Simon's end as aggressive/angry. Criticism doesn't equal hatred.

[Shonisaurus]

The baryonyx Papo is truly a very detailed figure and is a paleoartistic interpretation of a dinosaur that honestly is not as I would like. On the other hand the baryonyx Mojo seems to me from that point of view more realistic.

Regarding the scientific, only if we kept some mummified remains of this animal could we have better palparto and paleontological interpretations of this figure. Although a fairly considerable percentage of the baryonyx skeleton is preserved, I believe that it is very difficult, as I have already commented, despite the scientific advances and discoveries of paleontologists as it would be their real appearance.

On the other hand, I like the Baryonyx Mojo more because, as I said in the first paragraph, it seems more realistic. Although I think as I said "that all comparison is hateful" and that I do not agree with the war between brands.

Papo has his philosophy and some figures will seem better or worse than all toy dinosaur brands, which does not seem moral to me compared to the baryonyx of Papo with Mojo (and I say it with all respect in the world ). It's like comparing if Michelangelo is a better sculptor than Rodin with two representative sculptures.

Sincerely I like more Papo figures of theropods before and after like tyrannosaurus rex, spinosaurus, acrocanthosaurus or ceratosaurus and as I said everyone is free to comment and criticize that figure. What I think is that the baryonyx's criticisms were already made in the day of Papo 2016 and it is more appropriate to make those criticisms in that part of the forum.

Regarding the baryonyx of Mojo, it seems to me one of the best figures of that creature made so far without belittling other companies. What I do not think is fair is to denigrate the company Mojo or another toy company denominating it chinasaur in a derogatory way. In a way, some dinosaurs will seem more scientific and others less, but we should not denigrate the work of the sculptors with somewhat unpleasant disqualifications.

This is commented without the intention of offending anyone and if someone feels offended I ask in advance for my apologies. Only I have poured an opinion that does not stop being criticizable like any of the forum.

[tanystropheus]

Most folks that tend to harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the Bary have never held one in hand.

I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

You just contradicted yourself.

I don't think so. I have a lot of memories of bad things that happened in my past that I am not angry about, but wish I could forget. I'm sure a lot of people are the same.

Maybe people are getting defensive because they happen to like the Bary, and so they perceive judgement from Simon's end as aggressive/angry. Criticism doesn't equal hatred.

He doesn't exactly like the Bary. He called it a Kaiju 

I don't mean aggressive/angry in a physical or literal sense. I basically mean getting all riled up over its existence or displaying overtly non-neutral feelings towards the model.

[tyrantqueen]

I just realised I have gotten Sim and Simon's posts confused. Nevermind

[stargatedalek]

Maybe people are getting defensive because they happen to like the Bary, and so they perceive judgement from Simon's end as aggressive/angry. Criticism doesn't equal hatred.

I don't think anyone was upset over anything Sim said, but rather indominus.


As for the skull diagram, I was referring to which teeth were not known, not the bone structure.

[Simon]

I just realised I have gotten Sim and Simon's posts confused. Nevermind

*Chuckle*  I harbor no feelings - "aggressive" or otherwise (LOLLOLOL!!!) toward the simply awful and totally awkward looking Papo "Baryonyx".

I do agree with someone upthread that its head would actually make the Spinosaurus look ... a BIT more accurate ... (the guy who kitbashed it onto the Spino body for that rainbow Chinasaurus should get a medal!)

But I just realized what the Papo Baryonyx reminds me of .... Al Gore's "ManBearPig" obsession ("half-man, half-bear, half-pig!" - THINK about it!) from the "South Park" cartoon ... (for anyone who would accuse Al Gore of not having a sense of humor, you will recall that he voiced HIMSELF in that episode, despite the lampoon they put on his character!!)

"Al Gore" dressed up as "ManBearPig":



The ACTUAL "ManBearPig" as it looks when it finally appears onscreen (close cousin to the Papo Baryonyx):

[Sim]

Sim - I nominate this for funniest post of the year.  You had me rolling at: "I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists."

But when I got to: "You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid." - I would have been shooting my soda out my nose (had I been drinking a soda at the time)....

I'm glad you enjoyed it!  I imagine my post was something some might not have wanted to see, but I felt it had reached a point where it had to be said.  I'm glad it could be funny, I think if that's possible it makes disagreeing a little pleasant.

Papo Baryonyx is a cool piece of art, Mojo Baryonyx is nothing more than a decent chinasaur. To each their own!

That's a valid opinion to have about the Papo Baryonyx.  I don't see any way the Mojo Baryonyx "is nothing more than a decent chinasaur" though.  I think you don't realise that being a "chinasaur" isn't really a matter of opinion.

I've always felt that the Baryonyx's head would be better suited for an updated Spinosaurus, although it would still have its accuracy issues.

Also, is it really possible to have "aggressive feelings" towards a toy? I mean, sure, I've seen my share of bad dinosaur toys and even reviewed a number of them for the blog, but I don't recall ever coming across one that was so hideously and irredeemably awful that I felt an uncontrollable urge to throw it out a window or smash it with a hammer or drag it behind my car.

Well said suspsy, I agree with all of this.  The Papo Baryonyx having lower jaw teeth outside the upper jaw when the mouth is closed, the shape of its upper jaw, and its nostril position are features that as far as I'm aware are all incorrect for Baryonyx and Suchomimus, but correct for Spinosaurus.

I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.

You just contradicted yourself.

No, I didn't contradict myself.  It appears you just think any expression of dislike for the Papo Baryonyx means harbouring aggressive feelings towards it.

LOL.

His post totally proved my point. I'm actually quite surprised. He's usually pretty good at masking his feelings, though.

First of all, I don't mask my feelings.  I would ask what you meant regarding that, but I don't think I'd actually like to know.  You can believe I proved your point if you wish, even if it isn't true.  From posts you've made, I get the impression you are often interested in knowing the truth about things.  But when it comes to people expressing dislike of figures you like, you're not so open to the truth of why people feel the way they do.

I've always felt that the Baryonyx's head would be better suited for an updated Spinosaurus, although it would still have its accuracy issues.

Also, is it really possible to have "aggressive feelings" towards a toy?

It's very possible. 

He he, it sounds like you're saying you've had "aggressive feelings" towards a toy, tanystropheus!

He doesn't exactly like the Bary. He called it a Kaiju 

I don't mean aggressive/angry in a physical or literal sense. I basically mean getting all riled up over its existence or displaying overtly non-neutral feelings towards the model.

I didn't call the Papo Baryonyx a kaiju, I said I think it looks like an anthropomorphic Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid.  I don't think it can be denied some non-dinosaur inspiration went into the Papo Baryonyx.  I don't get all riled up over the Papo Baryonyx's existence.  I think you're mixing this up with what's actually happening, which is getting annoyed by you criticising other people for disliking the Papo Baryonyx, and seeing some of the Papo Baryonyx's inaccuracies overlooked again.  The Papo Baryonyx is what it is.  If it's relevant to a discussion, I may comment on it as is appropriate.  Outside of that, I don't think about the figure.  I'd like to think about things I actually like.  Do you think there's something wrong with "displaying overtly non-neutral feelings towards the model."?  You've displayed "overtly non-neutral feelings" towards other figures, does that mean you've harboured aggressive feelings towards these figures?  I don't think displaying "overtly non-neutral feelings" towards a figure (including the Papo Baryonyx) equals harbouring aggressive feelings towards the figure.

[tanystropheus]

But when it comes to people expressing dislike of figures you like, you're not so open to the truth of why people feel the way they do.

Sorry. I hope to be a little less judgmental going into the new year. I always appreciate when I get called out as it is an opportunity to learn and self-reflect.

[tanystropheus]

Sim,

Sorry. I hope to be a little less judgmental going into the new year. I always appreciate when I get called out as it is an opportunity to learn and self-reflect.

[Sim]

Sim,

Sorry. I hope to be a little less judgmental going into the new year. I always appreciate when I get called out as it is an opportunity to learn and self-reflect.

Thanks for this, tanystropheus.  Apology accepted.  It's good you can respond like this.  You are a member I've grown to like.  stargatedalek is another member I like.  I didn't like the unpleasant aspects of the discussion that was happening in this thread.  I've also just been reading another argumentative discussion in the Safari new for 2018 thread.  If the arguments in these two threads are over, I'm glad.

If the Papo Baryonyx makes you feel happy, I'm glad it's a figure that can do that for you.

By the way tanystropheus, I think the quoting in your previous post needs fixing, it's currently showing Simon saying what I said, and me saying what you said.

[Simon]

Ummm.. the quote above is not mine (though I think you guys know that)... someone upthread accidentally left Sim's quote in between my quotation marks after deleting my comment ... no biggie ... 

[Flaffy]

From MonsterhouseHK, Hong Kong toy fair 2018

[RobinGoodfellow]

I really like the 2018 wave of Mojo Fun.... I'll buy all of them when available.. 

[ITdactyl]

The Mojo dippy really looks like the life-sized model at the Senckenberg Natural History Museum.