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Mattel, Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom toys - new for 2018

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tanystropheus

#840
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm still confused why half of the Mattel JP toys look awesome, and half look rubbish. There's like no middle ground here  ???


tanystropheus

#841
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on April 21, 2018, 03:11:24 AM
Quote from: MLMjp on April 20, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
When you know the toys are out there but you can't go to the stores because you are busy with other stuff and the only think you can do is watch other people hauls that are absolutely huge.....

Seriously guys. HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO BUY SO MANY AT THE START?

Quote from: tanystropheus on April 20, 2018, 08:33:54 PM
Picked up Thrash and Throw T-rex from US amazon.com. I couldn't resist (although, I probably should have waited for the Chomper as it is said to be more stable, less expensive, have more articulation and less seam lines).

Considering Mattel's knack for Deluxe models (e.g. Colossal T-rex, Mosa etc.), any chance of seeing a Sauropod in future waves?

I don think we will see sauropods in this line in particular(Source: the app) but I can see them appearing in future lines. Maybe in a in-between movies line or for the next movie. Or maybe they will surprise us with some last minute releases that were not planned and not listed in the app.

Personally I had a game plan.  I saved since last year for it, kept track of who had everything and what and when by search sites.  Then I aside this week as Jurassic Week to hunt down everything starting Monday at 6am.   Having no life outside dinosaurs really helps lol

Universal actually told them no sauropod from what was passed on at Toy Fair from Mattel reps.  I think they thought no one would buy them, hopefully given this success we'll see one next year.

Thank you for the clarification. Hopefully, they update their plans to include a sauropod. Aside from Horizon and Papo, there's a lack of proper JP sauropods (e.g. Brachio, Apato, and Mamenchi)

Joey

Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?
That would be AWESOME!

Cretaceous Crab

Quote from: MLMjp on April 20, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
When you know the toys are out there but you can't go to the stores because you are busy with other stuff and the only think you can do is watch other people hauls that are absolutely huge.....

Seriously guys. HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO BUY SO MANY AT THE START?

Credit cards, LOL.  ;)

I will say my wife and I went a little crazy. Our kids just had their birthdays this past week, so we had somewhat of a plan. I knew I wanted the Indoraptor, and we're definitely getting the Colossal rex and the Mosasaurus for my son. Then my wife kinda got hit with nostalgia and bought some human figures (including some of the Legacy Collection), some blind bags and raptor masks (for Halloween, although its 6 months away). But after the birthday craze is over, we decided to return a good portion of the extra stuff.

Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Even better, I want them to make a live-action film out of it. I mean, if they can make movies about EMOJIs for crying out loud, they should be able to reboot the Dino-Riders franchise. I would love to see a feathered T. rex with giant space guns attached to its arms.

Faelrin

So I managed to pick up the Mosasaurus at my local Walmart today, since they restocked it yesterday (literally the day after my first major haul). No luck on getting the Carnotaurus yet, but hopefully this week. Anyways, this thing is absolutely amazing. This is my first huge Jurassic toy in my entire life. I'm so in love with having this. I love the rubbery skin (now I see why Kenner's are so nice and highly desired, aside from decent sculpts and paint schemes, etc), and the articulation is great too (jaw, fins up, down, and around). I would absolutely love an Apatosaurus like this girl, even if it was a bit smaller, but I'll keep dreaming on that for now.

In any case back to the Mosasaurus here. I took several pictures of this thing with various things, as well as its beautiful packaging:

Packaging from the front:


Packaging from the back:


Mattel Mosasaurus with Hasbro Mosasaurus:


With 16.9 fl oz water bottle:


With Battle Damage Blue:


With 10 inch FFXV Noctis Play Arts Kai:
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Digibasherx

Quote from: tanystropheus on April 22, 2018, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm still confused why half of the Mattel JP toys look awesome, and half look rubbish. There's like no middle ground here  ???

I originally hoped the Stego and the Carno was the ones from the unreleased prototypes for the Dino Showdown line, but I'm really happy with the new sculpts.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 04:29:35 AM
Quote from: tanystropheus on April 22, 2018, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm still confused why half of the Mattel JP toys look awesome, and half look rubbish. There's like no middle ground here  ???

I originally hoped the Stego and the Carno was the ones from the unreleased prototypes for the Dino Showdown line, but I'm really happy with the new sculpts.

I actually like these better and I love the Kenner nod and wink on so many of them.

Amazon ad:

Flaffy

Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 04:29:35 AM
Quote from: tanystropheus on April 22, 2018, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I'm still confused why half of the Mattel JP toys look awesome, and half look rubbish. There's like no middle ground here  ???

I originally hoped the Stego and the Carno was the ones from the unreleased prototypes for the Dino Showdown line, but I'm really happy with the new sculpts.
For me, the new Mattel Stegosaurus looks way more appealing than the Hasbro prototype. While the Hasbro Carno is pretty stylistic, it's a pretty neat figure, on par with the Mattel one.

The Atroxious

#848
Quote from: LeviRawl on April 22, 2018, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Even better, I want them to make a live-action film out of it. I mean, if they can make movies about EMOJIs for crying out loud, they should be able to reboot the Dino-Riders franchise. I would love to see a feathered T. rex with giant space guns attached to its arms.

With all due respect, how can people so excited about a potential Dino Riders reboot, and at the same time so angry about the inclusion of hybrid Frankendinos into the Jurassic franchise? I remember the outrage about human/dinosaur hybrids in early concept art for Jurassic World, with people saying how "ridiculous and stupid" the concept was, and now you look at Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom videos on Youtube, with all the complaining about the Frankendino concept. I really cannot get my head around how using genetic modification to create more intelligent and powerful creatures is stupid, but a cyborg Tyrannosaurus with guns on its arms is not.

I'm honestly not trying to knock anybody's favorite concepts, but I can't really figure out how to phrase this tactfully. (For the record, I don't personally have anything against the idea of a weaponized Tyrannosaurus. I'm just trying to figure out why one concept is so reviled while the other is so treasured.)

tanystropheus

#849
Quote from: The Atroxious on April 22, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: LeviRawl on April 22, 2018, 02:54:26 AM
Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
Anyone else excited that since Mattel owns the rights to Dino Riders, they can re-use, or resculpt some of the dinos for a new Dino Riders line?

Even better, I want them to make a live-action film out of it. I mean, if they can make movies about EMOJIs for crying out loud, they should be able to reboot the Dino-Riders franchise. I would love to see a feathered T. rex with giant space guns attached to its arms.

I really cannot get my head around how using genetic modification to create more intelligent and powerful creatures is stupid, but a cyborg Tyrannosaurus with guns on its arms is not.



It's not a cyborg T-rex. The dinosaurs are intact. The appeal is in the Star Wars type execution.

If you have the chance, watch DR videos on YouTube (yeah, the videos are low-res by today's standards) as they have incredible production values and superb voice acting. There's only like 12 or 13 episodes.

Mutant dinosaurs are a whole different ball game. The potential for failure is enormous. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the change in atmosphere can shift existing themes by a large margin, potentially dragging JP's suspense/thriller narrative into the realm of horror/macabre.

The Atroxious

Quote from: tanystropheus on April 22, 2018, 11:28:39 AM
It's not a cyborg T-rex. The dinosaurs are intact. The appeal is in the Star Wars type execution.

If you have the chance, watch DR videos on YouTube (yeah, the videos are low-res by today's standards) as they have incredible production values and superb voice acting. There's only like 12 or 13 episodes.

Mutant dinosaurs are a whole different ball game. The potential for failure is enormous. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the change in atmosphere can shift existing themes by a large margin, potentially dragging JP's suspense/thriller narrative into the realm of horror/macabre.

I watched several Dino Riders episodes a few years back, and was a bit underwhelmed in all honesty. I don't remember all the details, but the story wasn't really my cup of tea. Again, not trying to knock Dino Riders. I understand why some people are really into the concept, and I really enjoyed all the Dino Riders toy reviews on the blog, but I can't get into it personally.

My point is that militarized dinosaurs is a heavily sci-fi concept no matter what story it's in. I honestly think the much maligned idea of human/dinosaur hybrids from the early Jurassic World concepts was kind of interesting. (In case you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, this should sum it up.) I would have liked to see that come to fruition in a movie. I'm in the minority, however, and the consensus seems to be "That's stupid, no on wants to see that." At the same time, whenever someone brings up Dino Riders, the consensus is "Yeah, that sounds amazing!" I fail to see how humanoid dinosaurs is so much more ridiculous or stupid than mechanized(?) dinosaurs. The argument that the Indominus and Indoraptor are stupid concepts is even worse because in our world, we do splice different organisms. Humans have even created glowing cats. Why is it then unacceptable to have Indominus and Indoraptor in a sci-fi world that's already populated with dinosaur/frog hybrids? A lot of interesting concepts can be explored in sci-fi, so why do people insist on labeling certain concepts as "ridiculous" or "stupid" without giving them a chance, when there are loads of other "ridiculous" sci-fi concepts that have been done well and are appreciated by many people?

tanystropheus

#851
I understand what you are saying but humanoid/dinosaurs would push JP into the horror genre, especially if those prototype sketches are an indication of what's next. They resemble something out of Resident Evil. Again, I'm not saying its a bad idea, but it would be rather difficult to execute (while maintaining the JP ambience). It might work better if JP was handled by an indie director or rebooted as such.

I'm not too fond of the Indominus and Indoraptor backdrop, but it kind of works.

tanystropheus

Quote from: Faelrin on April 22, 2018, 04:12:59 AM


With 10 inch FFXV Noctis Play Arts Kai:


Geez. Noctis is everywhere. First Tekken, now Jurassic Park!


Cretaceous Crab

Quote from: The Atroxious on April 22, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
With all due respect, how can people so excited about a potential Dino Riders reboot, and at the same time so angry about the inclusion of hybrid Frankendinos into the Jurassic franchise? I remember the outrage about human/dinosaur hybrids in early concept art for Jurassic World, with people saying how "ridiculous and stupid" the concept was, and now you look at Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom videos on Youtube, with all the complaining about the Frankendino concept. I really cannot get my head around how using genetic modification to create more intelligent and powerful creatures is stupid, but a cyborg Tyrannosaurus with guns on its arms is not.

I'm honestly not trying to knock anybody's favorite concepts, but I can't really figure out how to phrase this tactfully. (For the record, I don't personally have anything against the idea of a weaponized Tyrannosaurus. I'm just trying to figure out why one concept is so reviled while the other is so treasured.)

I, for one, have not knocked the JP / JW franchise. I know it's all fiction, I own all the films and I enjoy the entertainment. If I wanted a documentary, I know where I can get those.

But I see your point, in that there are some people out there that play both sides of the coin.

MLMjp

It really bothers me how the TLW male raptor turned out to be, since the promotional pictures look show the PERFECT coloration for it. It still has the huge feet and crest in front of the eyes, but at least looks like the raptor from the film:
Promotional vs actual figure vs film


Faelrin

@Tanystropheus I couldn't resist giving that a go, lol.

@MLMjp I'm disappointed with the final one too, but it is what it is. I'm not planning on hunting for it, but I suppose if I have the money, and I see it in stock, I'll probably still get it (same goes for the baby T. rex). Surprisingly this mini figure does it a bit better (which also comes with an exclusive Pachycephalosaurus, and a green Tyrannosaurus, which I wonder if that could be a hint they might be doing the buck after all):

Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

The Atroxious

Quote from: tanystropheus on April 22, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
I understand what you are saying but humanoid/dinosaurs would push JP into the horror genre, especially if those prototype sketches are an indication of what's next. They resemble something out of Resident Evil. Again, I'm not saying its a bad idea, but it would be rather difficult to execute (while maintaining the JP ambience). It might work better if JP was handled by an indie director or rebooted as such.

I'm not too fond of the Indominus and Indoraptor backdrop, but it kind of works.

Fair enough. I am a big horror fan, so I'm not at all bothered by the idea of a horror movie with dinosaurs, plus I've been of the opinion that the whole "people underestimate dinosaurs, and suddenly Tyrannosaurus and/or 'raptors destroy things" plot has been getting stale since The Lost World. It doesn't help that the subsequent movies haven't really had the same quality of pacing and characterization as the original. At this point, something in the franchise needs to change to hold my interest, and the concept of Frankendinos is, at this point, the main reason I'm following these movies at all.

Quote from: LeviRawl on April 22, 2018, 01:21:01 PM
I, for one, have not knocked the JP / JW franchise. I know it's all fiction, I own all the films and I enjoy the entertainment. If I wanted a documentary, I know where I can get those.

But I see your point, in that there are some people out there that play both sides of the coin.

Yeah, I'm not accusing anyone specifically. At this point, I don't even remember who said what. It's more about my own personal confusion about the rigidity of fandoms and how arbitrary they can be about labeling one idea as bad, yet accepting another equally unrealistic idea. It's not just dinosaur enthusiasts either. I've seen this phenomenon a number of times, and I haven't been able to make sense of it beyond "They changed it, now it sucks."

I personally see a pervasive lack of imagination when it comes to dinosaur media (this is where I give Dino Riders credit for being a very original concept) and feel a bit frustrated whenever people complain about new story ideas.

Digibasherx

Quote from: The Atroxious on April 22, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
Yeah, I'm not accusing anyone specifically. At this point, I don't even remember who said what. It's more about my own personal confusion about the rigidity of fandoms and how arbitrary they can be about labeling one idea as bad, yet accepting another equally unrealistic idea. It's not just dinosaur enthusiasts either. I've seen this phenomenon a number of times, and I haven't been able to make sense of it beyond "They changed it, now it sucks."

I personally see a pervasive lack of imagination when it comes to dinosaur media (this is where I give Dino Riders credit for being a very original concept) and feel a bit frustrated whenever people complain about new story ideas.

If you think the dino fandom is rigid, you should look at the Transformers fandom, lol.

Shadowknight1

Quote from: Digibasherx on April 22, 2018, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: The Atroxious on April 22, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
Yeah, I'm not accusing anyone specifically. At this point, I don't even remember who said what. It's more about my own personal confusion about the rigidity of fandoms and how arbitrary they can be about labeling one idea as bad, yet accepting another equally unrealistic idea. It's not just dinosaur enthusiasts either. I've seen this phenomenon a number of times, and I haven't been able to make sense of it beyond "They changed it, now it sucks."

I personally see a pervasive lack of imagination when it comes to dinosaur media (this is where I give Dino Riders credit for being a very original concept) and feel a bit frustrated whenever people complain about new story ideas.

If you think the dino fandom is rigid, you should look at the Transformers fandom, lol.
Or fandoms in general.  The loudest sections of fandoms are usually, and unfortunately, the negative ones.  And in many cases, said negative fans prefer to shout down those who have a positive opinion on something new in said fandom.  I've seen it in Marvel(not as often, but every once and a while), DC(especially in regards to the current movies, you like them, you're a Snyder fan and must be ostracized), Star Trek(again, especially in regards to anything "new" because Gene Roddenberry was apparently unable to do wrong), and especially, ESPECIALLY Star Wars.  I have never seen a more verbally violent fanbase than the Star Wars fans.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

mgaguilar



Despite the differing styles, they actually go really well together. I may go full completionist on all the Velociraptors at this scale.
Hope future waves include Blue's fallen pack. RIP.

Also, I don't know if everyone has seen this yet, but the anatomical T.rex box is out!


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