odd, barely new Dinotales set of 5 due in December

[brettnj]

The first person to PM me with his or her e-mail address gets the honor of posting the two photos I'll send.

One day I'll re-learn how to post images here now that I no longer have Photobucket...

If you collect modern animals, you can see the Kaiyodo thread in the STS for Wild Rush 3 and a new Kaiyodo Reveltech arthropod line, both releasing in December, as well.

Feel free to discuss the oddness of releasing extremely similar sculpts to ones already released.

Also, I'm taking pre-orders for all of these now.  New buyers please PM.  My buyers, please e-mail.

Thanks.
Brett

[stargatedalek]

Can confirm the pterosaur is not the same sculpt as the old Quetzalcoatlus, but very similar pose suggests a deliberate remake to me. Don't know the others well enough from memory to comment.

[ITdactyl]

that quetz.... I think my heart stopped.
same base, same body... new head

Iguanodon also seems to have grown a "mohawk", Sauropelta gained additional armor and carnotaurus seems to have gained more mass (almost looks like a different sculpt).

I don't see anything new with the Tarbosaurus (but since I missed getting the first release, this is welcome news)

I'm getting this set.

[tyrantqueen]

They (especially the Carno and rex) look more detailed than the originals. Maybe they have better paint jobs, but I am wondering if they up-sized them a little.

[brettnj]

Thanks for posting photos.

Strange set indeed.  If they were going to do updating/repair work, why not the dunkleosteus?

I especially like the iguanodon, though he and the carno seemed to have gained weight...
Brett

[Takama]

That Sauropelta looks like Boreleopelta to me. Maybe thats what its intended as?

[SBell]

That Sauropelta looks like Boreleopelta to me. Maybe thats what its intended as?

It's the same sculpt as the Series 2 Sauropelta, so probably not...but I guess we'll know when they release it.

Wouldn't that be something though! Borealopelta would be unique!

[A.Garcia]

It's interesting that they are updating some of these. I only have the Sauropelta- this new one has the second row of neck spikes, and additional armor on the sides and forelimbs. I was curious about this, and you have a point Takama, because the Borealopelta specimen apparently shows upper arm armor like this, and the specific arrangement of big spikes matches too. So some of the changes appear to be based on that fossil, and at the very least you could reasonably display the two versions as these two genera.   Otherwise Carnotaurus does seem the most different, sculpture-wise. I really like the paint schemes for the Tarbosaurus and Quetz (hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse).

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these. Certain other brands update their species more (too?) often, sometimes in similar poses. For someone like me without four of the originals, this set is very tempting. New or not, the Tarbosaurus is more interesting than most if not all of their Tyrannosaurus figures.

[SBell]

It's interesting that they are updating some of these. I only have the Sauropelta- this new one has the second row of neck spikes, and additional armor on the sides and forelimbs. I was curious about this, and you have a point Takama, because the Borealopelta specimen apparently shows upper arm armor like this, and the specific arrangement of big spikes matches too. So some of the changes appear to be based on that fossil, and at the very least you could reasonably display the two versions as these two genera.   Otherwise Carnotaurus does seem the most different, sculpture-wise. I really like the paint schemes for the Tarbosaurus and Quetz (hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse).

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these. Certain other brands update their species more (too?) often, sometimes in similar poses. For someone like me without four of the originals, this set is very tempting. New or not, the Tarbosaurus is more interesting than most if not all of their Tyrannosaurus figures.

Looking again, I have realized that the nodosaur is indeed very different from the original S2 Sauropelta, which is cool.

That said, the iguanodont diverges probably the most from the original figures' sculpts--there are two Iguanodon and a Shangtungosaurus, and this one looks like none of them at all.

It it possible that it (like the nodosaur) will be labelled as a different species. What is really strange is that it appears that the Quetzalcoatlus and Tarbosaurus are being reused without any changes at all...

[ITdactyl]

hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse.

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these.

It'd indeed be interesting if these retools are meant to be different species.  But that's still a welcome development.

@A.Garcia  I share your concern with the paint quality out of the factory.  While some models seemed to be able to replicate the paint scheme of the "prototype" (e.g. series 2 Brachiosaurus), others seem to have met the lazy brush (looking at you Tuojiangosaurus )

I was also laughing when I read what you said about the time between releases.  Wow, yeah, it's been that long.  To think the hunt for the series 6 Quetz was what brought me to the first dinotoyforum in the first place. 

[John]

It's interesting that they are updating some of these. I only have the Sauropelta- this new one has the second row of neck spikes, and additional armor on the sides and forelimbs. I was curious about this, and you have a point Takama, because the Borealopelta specimen apparently shows upper arm armor like this, and the specific arrangement of big spikes matches too. So some of the changes appear to be based on that fossil, and at the very least you could reasonably display the two versions as these two genera.   Otherwise Carnotaurus does seem the most different, sculpture-wise. I really like the paint schemes for the Tarbosaurus and Quetz (hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse).

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these. Certain other brands update their species more (too?) often, sometimes in similar poses. For someone like me without four of the originals, this set is very tempting. New or not, the Tarbosaurus is more interesting than most if not all of their Tyrannosaurus figures.

Looking again, I have realized that the nodosaur is indeed very different from the original S2 Sauropelta, which is cool.

That said, the iguanodont diverges probably the most from the original figures' sculpts--there are two Iguanodon and a Shangtungosaurus, and this one looks like none of them at all.

It it possible that it (like the nodosaur) will be labelled as a different species. What is really strange is that it appears that the Quetzalcoatlus and Tarbosaurus are being reused without any changes at all...

Actually,only the Tarbosaurus is unchanged.I have the original Quetzalcoatlus and the shape of the beak and the crest over it's head are different.

[brettnj]

I'd be surprised if there isn't some undetectable in the photo minor change to the tarbo (or saurolo?).  Wouldn't seem to make much sense in light of the others.
Brett

[John]

I'd be surprised if there isn't some undetectable in the photo minor change to the tarbo (or saurolo?).  Wouldn't seem to make much sense in light of the others.
Brett

The reason that the Tarbosaurus is the same is because unlike the rest,it has not yet become out of date.

[brettnj]

I wonder then, why include it in the set at all.

Then again, Kaiyodo's so weird, disappointing in recent years, with redundancy, so few (modern or prehistoric) animals at all, etc.

At least or especially for someone like myself who only collects Kaiyodo figures.

Brett

[John]

I wonder then, why include it in the set at all.

Then again, Kaiyodo's so weird, disappointing in recent years, with redundancy, so few (modern or prehistoric) animals at all, etc.

At least or especially for someone like myself who only collects Kaiyodo figures.

Brett

From my point of view,this is so new generations can get a hold of these models too.

[brettnj]

Toward that end, I really liked Kaiyodo rereleasing under the Capsule Q Museum line the Dinotales prehistoric marine invertebrate figures on posts so they appeared to be swimming (Odd that they weren't released that way to start since others were...) but I was disappointed that the company put them on what were to me such obtrusively large bases.  I never bought them for myself for that reason.

I suppose to some extent the odd bits of variation make the line--and displaying its figures--interesting, but on the rare occasion for me they work against it.

Oh, and if new generations want the original (or the new) Dinotales, PM me with your best price options and I'll (in virtually all cases) beat 'em!    ;  )
Brett

[SBell]

It's interesting that they are updating some of these. I only have the Sauropelta- this new one has the second row of neck spikes, and additional armor on the sides and forelimbs. I was curious about this, and you have a point Takama, because the Borealopelta specimen apparently shows upper arm armor like this, and the specific arrangement of big spikes matches too. So some of the changes appear to be based on that fossil, and at the very least you could reasonably display the two versions as these two genera.   Otherwise Carnotaurus does seem the most different, sculpture-wise. I really like the paint schemes for the Tarbosaurus and Quetz (hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse).

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these. Certain other brands update their species more (too?) often, sometimes in similar poses. For someone like me without four of the originals, this set is very tempting. New or not, the Tarbosaurus is more interesting than most if not all of their Tyrannosaurus figures.

Looking again, I have realized that the nodosaur is indeed very different from the original S2 Sauropelta, which is cool.

That said, the iguanodont diverges probably the most from the original figures' sculpts--there are two Iguanodon and a Shangtungosaurus, and this one looks like none of them at all.

It it possible that it (like the nodosaur) will be labelled as a different species. What is really strange is that it appears that the Quetzalcoatlus and Tarbosaurus are being reused without any changes at all...

Actually,only the Tarbosaurus is unchanged.I have the original Quetzalcoatlus and the shape of the beak and the crest over it's head are different.

I have at least 1 of all of the Dinotales. I just didn't look that closely at the Quetz. I agree with Brett, there could be some kind of minor adjustment to all of them once we can see them.

But first I want to know what the species are called by them...especially the Nodosaurus, since it is appreciably different.

[John]

It's interesting that they are updating some of these. I only have the Sauropelta- this new one has the second row of neck spikes, and additional armor on the sides and forelimbs. I was curious about this, and you have a point Takama, because the Borealopelta specimen apparently shows upper arm armor like this, and the specific arrangement of big spikes matches too. So some of the changes appear to be based on that fossil, and at the very least you could reasonably display the two versions as these two genera.   Otherwise Carnotaurus does seem the most different, sculpture-wise. I really like the paint schemes for the Tarbosaurus and Quetz (hopefully the finished Tarbosaurus will have close to that level of finesse).

Given the amount of time since their release I don't think it's too strange to see updates for these. Certain other brands update their species more (too?) often, sometimes in similar poses. For someone like me without four of the originals, this set is very tempting. New or not, the Tarbosaurus is more interesting than most if not all of their Tyrannosaurus figures.

Looking again, I have realized that the nodosaur is indeed very different from the original S2 Sauropelta, which is cool.

That said, the iguanodont diverges probably the most from the original figures' sculpts--there are two Iguanodon and a Shangtungosaurus, and this one looks like none of them at all.

It it possible that it (like the nodosaur) will be labelled as a different species. What is really strange is that it appears that the Quetzalcoatlus and Tarbosaurus are being reused without any changes at all...

Actually,only the Tarbosaurus is unchanged.I have the original Quetzalcoatlus and the shape of the beak and the crest over it's head are different.

I have at least 1 of all of the Dinotales. I just didn't look that closely at the Quetz. I agree with Brett, there could be some kind of minor adjustment to all of them once we can see them.

But first I want to know what the species are called by them...especially the Nodosaurus, since it is appreciably different.

In my case,I just have the pink Quetzalcoatlus (it was the first one that I happened to see,so I ordered that variant the second I saw it.)
As for species,I can give three positive identifications right now:Tarbosaurus bataar,an updated Carnotaurus sastrei and a complete retool of a Sauropelta into Borealopelta markmitchelli

Kaiyodo is too exact in their detail for them to be anything else.

[stargatedalek]

It would be neat if all of these retools are actually meant to be closely related species, though, what could the "Carnotaurus" be if that were the case?

[SBell]

It would be neat if all of these retools are actually meant to be closely related species, though, what could the "Carnotaurus" be if that were the case?

There are other abelisaurs with 'horns', like Austrocheirus. So it's a long shot but possible.