More evidence Nanotyrannus never existed

[leidy]

The "dueling dinosaurs" fossil is not a trustworthy source. It has thus far been examined only by the company trying to sell it, and they are marketing it heavily on it containing "Nanotyrannus". Frankly, I have no doubts they would be willing to fudge numbers if not actually lie to promote their product.

Among others, the fossils have been examined by Scott Sampson, Bob Bakker, Phil Manning. 

From day one they've been working on that specimen in the hope that they could sell it to a legitimate institution.  For megabucks.  On that principle I very much doubt they have deliberately fudged any numbers, because the inflated financial value of the specimen is tied to its value as a scientific specimen, and as such they would be strongly averse to anything that would undermine its scientific integrity.


 

[leidy]

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/93287-the-case-for-nanotyrannus/&

If Pete Larson wants his arguments to be taken seriously by the paleontological community, then he needs to write a formal paper and get it published.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt16gzmkc

[HD-man]

The "dueling dinosaurs" fossil is not a trustworthy source. It has thus far been examined only by the company trying to sell it, and they are marketing it heavily on it containing "Nanotyrannus". Frankly, I have no doubts they would be willing to fudge numbers if not actually lie to promote their product.

Among others, the fossils have been examined by Scott Sampson, Bob Bakker, Phil Manning. 

From day one they've been working on that specimen in the hope that they could sell it to a legitimate institution.  For megabucks.  On that principle I very much doubt they have deliberately fudged any numbers, because the inflated financial value of the specimen is tied to its value as a scientific specimen, and as such they would be strongly averse to anything that would undermine its scientific integrity.

To add to the above quote, we've already seen the fossils next to things of known size (E.g. See 1:10 in this video), so it's not like Larson could just "fudge numbers" even if he wanted to (& there's no good reason to think he'd wanna do such a horrible thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkjTdiIVH8s

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/93287-the-case-for-nanotyrannus/&

If Pete Larson wants his arguments to be taken seriously by the paleontological community, then he needs to write a formal paper and get it published.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt16gzmkc

Here's a better link: https://archive.org/details/tyrannosauridpaleobiology2013

[leidy]

The "dueling dinosaurs" fossil is not a trustworthy source. It has thus far been examined only by the company trying to sell it, and they are marketing it heavily on it containing "Nanotyrannus". Frankly, I have no doubts they would be willing to fudge numbers if not actually lie to promote their product.

Among others, the fossils have been examined by Scott Sampson, Bob Bakker, Phil Manning. 

From day one they've been working on that specimen in the hope that they could sell it to a legitimate institution.  For megabucks.  On that principle I very much doubt they have deliberately fudged any numbers, because the inflated financial value of the specimen is tied to its value as a scientific specimen, and as such they would be strongly averse to anything that would undermine its scientific integrity.

To add to the above quote, we've already seen the fossils next to things of known size (E.g. See 1:10 in this video), so it's not like Larson could just "fudge numbers" even if he wanted to (& there's no good reason to think he'd wanna do such a horrible thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkjTdiIVH8s

They won't be able to dismiss it forever.  As soon as that fossil gets into a museum where it belongs, it will no longer be scientifically inadmissible.  With that in mind, I'm genuinely surprised to see people doubling down on Nano = T.rex.  When the specimen has a permanent home, it'll make a wonderful monograph, and the conclusions will be inescapable.   

[Ikessauro]

They won't be able to dismiss it forever.  As soon as that fossil gets into a museum where it belongs, it will no longer be scientifically inadmissible.  With that in mind, I'm genuinely surprised to see people doubling down on Nano = T.rex.  When the specimen has a permanent home, it'll make a wonderful monograph, and the conclusions will be inescapable.

I am really looking forward to this day. I really hope this amazing fossil ends up in a museum somewhere.