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PNSO: New For 2021

Started by Takama, December 02, 2020, 08:27:09 PM

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ceratopsian

I remember seeing PNSO minis for sale in a Chinese museum in 2019.  Much cheaper than the price here.  I think that you also need to bear in mind that PNSO strongly markets their "toys" as educational.  Education ranks high in the priorities of parents in China.

Personally given the sheer size of a sauropod in 1:35, I'm glad PNSO have opted for something smaller.  I have a large collection.  Space is at a premium.  And I'd be happy to explain any inconsistencies in scale, if that was a worry to me, by thinking of my model as fitting along a spectrum of size.  After all, not every animal in a sauropod herd will be exactly the same size.  You would expect adults to come in a range of sizes.

Quote from: Psittacoraptor on July 30, 2021, 03:48:30 PM
avatar_SRF @SRF If I understand that paleofiguras FB post correctly so many supporters of their crowdfunding project complained about the scale of the Mamenchisaurus that it caused PNSO to respond. They said they want children and families to experience these figures and the large sauropods would be too expensive in 1:35, so they are changing the branding of the museum line to include smaller scale models. I'm still perplexed about this line of thought. Who's buying these 60 and 70$ dinosaur figures with sharp parts for their small children? Seems like they are either misreading their costumer base, or the Chinese customer base is different from the international one. If these figures are much cheaper in China, as avatar_Faras @Faras has shown us with the Mamenchisaurus, then maybe children or their parents are buying them. Personally, I'll be skipping any sauropod that won't scale with the other museum line models.

Edit: Their boxes even say ages 14 and up and "use only under adult supervision", which makes the marketing to children even more strange, haha.


Faelrin

Honest question but are all the Museum line figures actually 1:35 to begin with, as advertised? I believe the Tyrannosaurus trio are, but what about the others? I was under the impression that some, like the Amargasaurus were too big to be so. So this inconsistency with the Mamenchisaurus wouldn't be the first then right? What about their previous Mamenchisaurus as well?
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Faras

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Yeah much cheaper in China, plus sometimes museums and exhibitions offer crazy discounts. Minis and books probably sell far better tho as majority of parents wouldn't buy expensive toys for children below 6-12.

Quote from: Faelrin on July 30, 2021, 06:27:29 PM
Honest question but are all the Museum line figures actually 1:35 to begin with, as advertised? I believe the Tyrannosaurus trio are, but what about the others? I was under the impression that some, like the Amargasaurus were too big to be so. So this inconsistency with the Mamenchisaurus wouldn't be the first then right? What about their previous Mamenchisaurus as well?

Triceratops, old Spinosaurus, Amargasaurus, Chungkingosaurus are probably too big, Giganotosaurus and new Stegosaurus are bit on the big side tho still withing realm of possibilty. They didn't say species of old Mamenchisaurus so it could get away as 1:35 M. constructus (tbh if they didn't state new one is 1:45 M. Hochuanensis then again it could be a 1:35 M. constructus).

SidB

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Quote from: Faelrin on July 30, 2021, 03:21:42 PM
L @Leyster Thanks for providing that information. So it was perhaps a good thing that I was skeptical about this Brachiosaurus being a figure that was releasing then.
it's almost a relief, actually, though it looked good. I'm content to stay with my retroish Papo one that we re-built, at least in part (manus, nares). Fine for now in my diorama.

Bread

Quote from: sauroid on July 30, 2021, 04:48:36 PM
avatar_Bread @Bread i wasnt expecting that repaint. i thought i was getting the original gray and white version. it was a pleasant surprise.
Congratulations on the pickup, glad you are satisfied with this model especially with its improved paint job.

I am surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but is anyone worried about the front heavy risk of this sauropod figure? I know with their previous Mamenchisaurus, the thing would lean forward eventually falling over. Looks like a similar pose as the old one.

Maritimer

Looking at the photos, the new one seems to have its center-of-mass a little further back; the neck is more tapering, and the deepest part of the body seems to be just ahead of the hips, rather than centered between front and rear legs as the older one is.


~B.

Bread

Quote from: Maritimer on July 30, 2021, 11:49:37 PM
Looking at the photos, the new one seems to have its center-of-mass a little further back; the neck is more tapering, and the deepest part of the body seems to be just ahead of the hips, rather than centered between front and rear legs as the older one is.


~B.
Good observation. Still worries me as PNSO figures have always had possible stability issues. For example, some of their hadrosaur models developed stability problems, and I wouldn't be surprised if this one way even with the adjusted center of mass. Although, that won't distract buyers from purchasing it, even if I were to acquire this beauty.

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Quote from: SidB on July 30, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
If this is really for real, that confirms it - PNSO is a steamroller. Who can compete with this tempo of output?

I'm going to go out on a limb here... **dons tinfoil hat**

Ok... PNSO is at least partially owned/administrated by the Chinese govt, and this is the 100th Anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party. They're celebrating in a myriad of ways, special movies, art exhibitions, museum exhibits, books, etc, and in many ways they are trying to assert their dominance in certain areas of manufacture and I very much think PNSO is their run at becoming THE dinosaur model maker, with the most and best models available.

I think the entire country is trying to be the best at what they do, to honor the anniversary. Or at least being directed to be the best...

Maritimer

Quote from: Bread on July 31, 2021, 02:13:54 AM
Quote from: Maritimer on July 30, 2021, 11:49:37 PM
Looking at the photos, the new one seems to have its center-of-mass a little further back; the neck is more tapering, and the deepest part of the body seems to be just ahead of the hips, rather than centered between front and rear legs as the older one is.


~B.
Good observation. Still worries me as PNSO figures have always had possible stability issues. For example, some of their hadrosaur models developed stability problems, and I wouldn't be surprised if this one way even with the adjusted center of mass. Although, that won't distract buyers from purchasing it, even if I were to acquire this beauty.

Tell me about it. I have a Corythosaurus that I've gotta pick up off the floor about three days after I stand her up. Every. Single. Time.

~B.

Dinoxels

I for one thought that the Helicoprion looked very weird (even for this animal), so I decided to fix it.

Here is my reference:
Most (if not all) Rebor figures are mid

Faras

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Got Andrea today, luckily I was able to unbox it before sunset, so some proper pics in natural light this time :)

Apologise for always posting on fb first as I'm too lazy to upload pics on another site before linking here :p

Vid: https://www.facebook.com/100008136481227/videos/pcb.2871038119703872/185307630323141

Common flaws (from what I read these seem universal):  thighs scales are pretty obscure compared to torso scales; visible seamlines around knees and along back - tail; claws on forelimbs aren't painted.
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Flaws on mine (dunno whether they are common): right hindlimb hangs in the air without base as tail goes down too much (maybe they designed it with a base in mind  ::) ). Jaw keeps bouncing back to 2/3 when I try to open it fully.
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Her head is nearly identical to Wilson's with some small differences.
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Right leg looks a bit better in person, yet for me the side view is still somewhat awkward. Left leg is folded in similar fashion and imho looks worse (more dynamic though):
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She can hide stands perfectly and support other figures. Normally folding of the leg is the only flaw you'll see when viewing the shelves from >30cm - partially blocking it with a mini works wonder. Bought this one mainly for building T. rex family scenes and she is perfect for that, so overall I'm quite happy :)
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Bread

avatar_Maritimer @Maritimer you are not alone my friend. Part of my collection thread is an attempt to fix that figure's stability issues (clear support stands, bending, warm water trick, etc..).

avatar_Faras @Faras thank you for those images and comparisons. That analysis really helps a lot.

I will say the legs bother me a lot. Distracting a bit for them to be elevated off the ground. Hopefully that is not a common problem like yours Faras, but it does make me wanna bite my lip before I purchase the thing. Probably going to wait for more reviews or purchases to be seen since I am worried about the legs.

Faras

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avatar_Bread @Bread My pleasure :) Mine has 3/4 of the tail below right leg - chin surface (too much to fix with a hair dryer). Legs and torso are perfectly on the ground when tail is removed so it won't be an issue if you plan to use a base, or make tail stick out of shelves.
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Hmm on the other hand, my pics might've exaggerated the problem since the gap is usually hidden in shadows:
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So far in hand pics of 4 other figures have been posted, the one on wooden base certainly has the same problem, not sure about ones on reflecting surface/custom base though seems likely. Can't link pics from Tieba so here are the links to posts:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7472460281
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7470940777



Rivera2171

Quote from: Dinoxels on July 31, 2021, 03:13:01 PM
I for one thought that the Helicoprion looked very weird (even for this animal), so I decided to fix it.

Here is my reference:


What did you fix?

RCM9698

@ Faras  Thanks for your translations and detailed comparisons!

That's quite a colour difference between the heads of Wilson and Andrea, that's not that visible in their art. Can't wait for her and Logan to arrive to keep Wilson company.

Mamenchisaurus is an easy pass for me, I'm not that interested in Sauropods. I'm interested to see what else they will release in the near future. Still torn on the Kronosaurus. I like many aspects of its design, but not a fan of the horizontal tail because i'm not convinced by the evidence.

Dinoxels

Quote from: Rivera2171 on August 01, 2021, 01:17:14 AM
Quote from: Dinoxels on July 31, 2021, 03:13:01 PM
I for one thought that the Helicoprion looked very weird (even for this animal), so I decided to fix it.

Here is my reference:


What did you fix?

(actual figure for reference)
The original model seems to follow a mix of older reconstructions (the longer snout) and more recent reconstructions (the placement of the teeth). I also don't like how swollen the eye looks with all the lumps around it. Thus I shrunk the nose, ridded the oddly different colored cartilage, increased the size of the teeth (I think I could have made it a bit more exposed), and finally ridded of the swollen eye.
Most (if not all) Rebor figures are mid

SidB

Very skillful work. I wouldn't have dared to attempt something like this. I'm impressed!

Dinoguy2

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Dinoxels

Quote from: SidB on August 01, 2021, 12:14:46 PM
Very skillful work. I wouldn't have dared to attempt something like this. I'm impressed!
Thanks! This was my first time doing a complete makeover on a figure and I'm very happy with how it came out.
Most (if not all) Rebor figures are mid

SRF

Just a quick heads up avatar_Psittacoraptor @Psittacoraptor (and others) that Andrea is now available again at My Online Toy Store on AliExpress.
But today, I'm just being father

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