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Ingenia`s sculpts: now digital (and a question)

Started by ingenia, March 18, 2012, 08:12:25 AM

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Lady medusa

How do you get the scales To look so clean? Do you have a certain tool to press into the epoxy or something? How long does it take to make all these scales?


ingenia

I use some normal sculpting tools, but not for the scales.It is more comfortable to make the scales when the mixing of the epoxy components was at least 30 -60 minutes ago, so the material is not that sticky anymore.Now you just have to press a little ball of the epoxy on the sculpture and flat it out, then again with a smaller or larger amount of material to make different sizes of scales.You have to watch out that they look like a unity,  no overlaps or other mistakes.You can polish them with your fingers to make it look cleaner and to avoid fingerprints(If you don`t work with gloves).It takes its time, but I think texturing the skin with other methods does,too.

To Tylosaurus: I thought about your question if a Tylosaurus would be possible. I think definitely yes! Maybe the skin would look less scaly,more like a sea turtle.Would also be cool to  sculpt some prey like an ammonite between his jaws. I definitely thinking about sculpting one this year. Argh, if I would just have more time!

ingenia

I just have a design question I want to ask. I am now sculpting a bust of one of my favorite theropods, rugops. I am not sure how the crest should look like or if it should even get a real crest, because there is no proof that rugops really had these, although it is often shown in palaeoart.
What would you think (as a design choice, not from a science view)?:
1.No crest
2.Small crest with some spikes
3.Just a small crest
4.Bigger crest with spikes
5.Just a bigger crest

Thanks

Gryphoceratops

Looking at the skull it appears there was def something going on the head there.  If I wanted to be safest I would go with some rougher scales on that section but not a full out frilly crest. 

Thagirion

Everything is excellent. I admire anyone that can make something from nothing in a tangible form like that.  Would love to see you do full bodies.
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Blade-of-the-Moon


Lady medusa

Quote from: ingenia on May 06, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
I just have a design question I want to ask. I am now sculpting a bust of one of my favorite theropods, rugops. I am not sure how the crest should look like or if it should even get a real crest, because there is no proof that rugops really had these, although it is often shown in palaeoart.
What would you think (as a design choice, not from a science view)?:
1.No crest
2.Small crest with some spikes
3.Just a small crest
4.Bigger crest with spikes
5.Just a bigger crest

Thanks

I agree with Blade. Todd marshells verson of rugops is pretty intense but still logical! I would figure it would be similar to carnotaurus as far as scaling and cresting would go and there is alot more information on carnotaurus then rugops.

ingenia

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on May 07, 2012, 02:51:18 AM
I prefer this one :



Yes Blade, in fact this is the picture I use as a main reference, especially the color scheme.I just wasn`t sure if it maybe should get a bigger crest, otherwise I think the rugops reconstruction from Paul Sereno has nearly no crest at all.
This small crest is a good compromise, maybe it will fit the best.

ingenia

I am searching for good skeletal drawings of guanlong, but I can`t find any with google. Would proceratosaurus be the most comparable (there are some reconstructions of this one)? I am thinking about sculpting a full body guanlong, but I wouldn`t start this if there are no reconstructions.I  just want to make some design drawings, I am not able to sculpt at the moment because of some health problems , so I can`t finish my rugops bust in the next time.
So if someone knows of some drawings it would be nice to know. ^-^

Blade-of-the-Moon

That's terrible, I hope your help problems are alleviated soon.

It does look like Proceratosaurus may be really close .

Skeletal :

It reminds me a lot of Dilophosaurus.

I couldn't find a good skeletal but I did find a nice fleshed one to compare to by Raul Martin :



You may look at other related species like Kileskus and others.



Hope that helps a bit.


Jetoar

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 30, 2012, 06:58:39 PM
That's terrible, I hope your help problems are alleviated soon.

It does look like Proceratosaurus may be really close .

Skeletal :

It reminds me a lot of Dilophosaurus.

I couldn't find a good skeletal but I did find a nice fleshed one to compare to by Raul Martin :



You may look at other related species like Kileskus and others.



Hope that helps a bit.


OMG!!!! yours sculptures are amazing and i would like to see the Guanlong finished  ^-^.
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ingenia

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 30, 2012, 06:58:39 PM
That's terrible, I hope your help problems are alleviated soon.

It does look like Proceratosaurus may be really close .

Skeletal :

It reminds me a lot of Dilophosaurus.

I couldn't find a good skeletal but I did find a nice fleshed one to compare to by Raul Martin :



You may look at other related species like Kileskus and others.



Hope that helps a bit.

Blade, I think the Raul Martin picture is really close to what I would imagine the guanlong to look like, maybe I could use it, although I prefer skeletal drawings. It is a shame that there is no picture of it and it shows that even the internet has its limits :-\.
By the way, if you search for guanlong pictures, in my opinion the drawing of himmapaan is by far the best, I would love to use his drawing as a main design reference if he is okay with that.

Quote from: Jetoar on July 30, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on July 30, 2012, 06:58:39 PM
That's terrible, I hope your help problems are alleviated soon.

It does look like Proceratosaurus may be really close .

Skeletal :

It reminds me a lot of Dilophosaurus.

I couldn't find a good skeletal but I did find a nice fleshed one to compare to by Raul Martin :



You may look at other related species like Kileskus and others.



Hope that helps a bit.


OMG!!!! yours sculptures are amazing and i would like to see the Guanlong finished  ^-^.

Jetoar, thanks that you like them!
With the guanlong, I think that would be a long time project, it should be around 2m (6feet) long, and as I work really slow I think it would probably take at least 12 months to finish this.

Blade-of-the-Moon

I'm sure Niroot wouldn't have a problem with you using his design..I believe he would in fact be honored knowing him as I do. :)

Himmapaan

Ingenia, as Chris says, I am extremely flattered (and surprised  :o) that you think so highly of my illustration.  Thank you. :-[ I'd be honoured if you would use it as a reference.

I also based my restoration on Proceratosaurus.

ingenia

Quote from: Himmapaan on August 02, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
Ingenia, as Chris says, I am extremely flattered (and surprised  :o) that you think so highly of my illustration.  Thank you. :-[ I'd be honoured if you would use it as a reference.

I also based my restoration on Proceratosaurus.

Thanks that I can use it, although I don`t know when I will have the time to start this. I think your illustrations are in the top class of paleoart, especiallly the Guanlong :)).
Nice to know that you based it on Proceratosaurus.

postsaurischian

I know most forum members hate Gregory S. Paul's theories, but considering different scientific perceptions can lead to the best results.
He describes a relation to Monolophosaurus.
There is a disagreement about whether Guanlong is a basal allosaur or tyrannosaur.
(see: The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs pp. 93, 94)

..... and yes, Niroot's illustration is astonishing! I know the guy who owns it ;).

ingenia

As I mentioned before I have the interest to sculpt a full body dinosaur instead of always doing only busts.The sculpture should have a length of about 2 meters, and the Guanlong would be really nice to do, especially with Himmapaans drawing as a reference.But I think Guanlong has to be shown as a fuzzy, feathered animal, which would be difficult for me (I thought about making it more classic, scaly, but in the end it wouldn`t make much sense). So I am working at my Rugops bust at the moment, and I realize if I would turn this one into a  full body sculpture, it would still be in the size range I looked out for.This would save me a lot of time, having sculpted most of the head already. It would be nice to know what others think.
Here are some pictures:

Remember the blue parts are not finished and will be covered in the end!

This picture is a few weeks old:






Actual status:














So with this one I would update the thread more frequently, showing the progress and asking for some help maybe.
I I fail or loose the passion I could still finish it as a bust, wouldn`t have a problem with that.


postsaurischian


tyrantqueen

This is nice :) I like your use of colours. If you made sculptures in 1/40 scale I would totally buy them XD

How long have you been sculpting btw? Are you self taught?

Blade-of-the-Moon

Looks beautifully detailed to me and accurate so far.  I  really like the color choices too..one of the hardest things for me to settle on. :)

I have to 2nd Tyrant Queen, if you did smaller full body pieces I would certainly love to purchase one..of course I'd buy a bust as well. ;)

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