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Papo New for 2017

Started by Takama, November 04, 2016, 08:44:58 PM

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Killekor

OH MY GOD!!!! WOW!!!!!

Killekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438


Carnosaur

I like it, i think detail wise it's even better than Rebor's Acro.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: pylraster on February 17, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
It does feel quite too small. However, it is much better than the Papo Allo. Forearms are bit too big though.

I have informed myself and measures thirty centimeters. So it is not a small figure. On the other hand is superior to the figure of Rebor is a figure of category. I have seen the photos on everythingdinosaur.co.uk and I can say that I am totally wrong are pictures of the figure as good as the promotional prototype.

Reptilia

#863
News from Everything Dinosaur blog, Smilodon and Cave bear:









Very big cat, I assume it must be bigger than the 2011 version. Really like them, they got a lot of personality. Papo is very good at extant animals too, these two seem to mix perfectly the better aspects of both wildlife and prehistoric ranges.

And here's the retail price of all new models:

https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Polacanthus-55060.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Ceratosaurus-55061.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Acrocanthosaurus-55062.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Dimorphodon-55063.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Hoehlenbaer-55066.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Bruellender-Smilodon-55067.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Cryolophosaurus-55068.html

Shonisaurus

Honestly I see as best figure made to ursus spelaeus but the smilodon does not convince me other than unreal is not as finished as the models of cats that has us used Papo.

By the way of the dimorphodon no photo appears and for the price so high that I have seen in this store Can it be bigger than we figure?

tanystropheus

Quote from: Reptilia on February 19, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
News from Everything Dinosaur blog, Smilodon and Cave bear:









Very big cat, I assume it must be bigger than the 2011 version. Really like them, they got a lot of personality. Papo is very good at extant animals too, these two seem to mix perfectly the better aspects of both wildlife and prehistoric ranges.

And here's the retail price of all new models:

https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Polacanthus-55060.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Ceratosaurus-55061.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Acrocanthosaurus-55062.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Dimorphodon-55063.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Hoehlenbaer-55066.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Bruellender-Smilodon-55067.html
https://www.spielzeug-guenstig.de/Papo-Cryolophosaurus-55068.html

The Cave Bear came out much better than expected. Nice gradations in the brown. I wonder if it is some generic modern bear (masquerading as...) or if there are specific features in this model to distinguish it from the extant. I'm no bear expert. 

RobinGoodfellow

#866
Papo Cave Bear is a must-have for me.
There are some decent cave bear figures on the market but Papo is the very first good one.

About Smilodon with mane...well... I'll buy it (just to complete..) but there are better options on the market.

p.s Cave Bear figures available:  Schleich (retired), Bullyland (retired), Starlux (retired), Geoworld (on sale). I'm forgetting something, I suppose..  :-\

RobinGoodfellow

#867
Quote from: tanystropheus on February 19, 2017, 08:41:56 AM
I wonder if it is some generic modern bear (masquerading as...) or if there are specific features in this model to distinguish it from the extant.



Grizzly/Brown Bear (Ursus arctos)
Cave Bear (Ursus spelaeus)
Giant Short Faced Bear (Arctodus simus)
Spectacled Bear  (Tremarctos floridanus)

http://www.bear-viewing-in-alaska.info/G1_ID_Images.html

Killekor

I don't like the bear, but i want that Smilodon.

Killekor
Bigger than a camarasaurus,
and with a bite more stronger that the T-Rex bite,
Ticamasaurus is certainly the king of the Jurassic period.

With Balaur feet, dromaeosaurus bite, microraptor wings, and a terrible poison, the Deinoraptor Dromaeonychus is a lethal enemy for the most ferocious hybrid too.

My Repaints Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5104.0

My Art And Sculptures Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5170

My Dioramas Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5195.0

My Collection Thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=5438

Shonisaurus

The cave bear (ursus spelaeus) is perhaps the best there is and has existed in the market. Superior to the one of Bullyland and also to the one of Schleich (whose figure is very caricatural).

As for the smilodon (although I will also buy it) I would rather have a figure much better than this, it reminds me of a circus lion in a state of decline with my respect for Papo. Unfortunately the smilodon is not brilliantly represented in the toy market as other figures, the smilodon of the different toy companies to date have not made for what I would wish a convincing figure, the smilodon of Bullyland is quite bad, that of Schleich is rather caricatured, Safari's first version is very dated, Doug Watson is good and the same I can say his breeding but too small, Collecta is good but I would like more detailed and in a fierce position, on the other Part of Favorite is very ungainly and Kaiyodo is quite small. I say this with all the respect of the world.

On the other hand, I waited before they made Papo's smilodon (for me, much better than the present), to make a feline figure and in this prehistoric case comparable to his excellent and outstanding felines of his own company, lion, tiger, Leopard, cheetah or ocelot for example.

Sincerely, I was expecting a much better saber-tooth feline from Papo. On the other hand for me it is perhaps the cave bear the best that has been made in the toy market, even though it is not in an aggressive position whose figure would gain even more points.


RobinGoodfellow

#870
Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 19, 2017, 11:56:35 AM

As for the smilodon (although I will also buy it) I would rather have a figure much better than this, it reminds me of a circus lion in a state of decline with my respect for Papo. Unfortunately the smilodon is not brilliantly represented in the toy market as other figures, the smilodon of the different toy companies to date have not made for what I would wish a convincing figure, the smilodon of Bullyland is quite bad, that of Schleich is rather caricatured, Safari's first version is very dated, Doug Watson is good and the same I can say his breeding but too small, Collecta is good but I would like more detailed and in a fierce position, on the other Part of Favorite is very ungainly and Kaiyodo is quite small. I say this with all the respect of the world.

On the other hand, I waited before they made Papo's smilodon (for me, much better than the present), to make a feline figure and in this prehistoric case comparable to his excellent and outstanding felines of his own company, lion, tiger, Leopard, cheetah or ocelot for example.

Sincerely, I was expecting a much better saber-tooth feline from Papo.

The new Papo Smilodon is way too cartoonish to me (It's more like a toy than a model..).
If you want an impressive Smilodon, I could suggest the AAA ( the big version).
It's the best Smilodon in my collection (even if not so accurate..).









:)

Shonisaurus

Thank you Robin is fabulous! It's the only one I miss in my collection is perhaps the best. I agree with you. It is also huge, I will look for it in the online stores. Thank you  8)

terrorchicken

cave bears are usually portrayed with a large hump but I dont know if that's accurate or artistic license thats become popular interpretation.

I really dont like the smilodon. If it didnt  have that mane and they fixed the angle of the canines it look so much better and could maybe stand in for another saber cat species. The mane looks so... I dont know... romantic? like they were making it look like a lion from classical works of art.

Shonisaurus

Quote from: terrorchicken on February 19, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
cave bears are usually portrayed with a large hump but I dont know if that's accurate or artistic license thats become popular interpretation.

I really dont like the smilodon. If it didnt  have that mane and they fixed the angle of the canines it look so much better and could maybe stand in for another saber cat species. The mane looks so... I dont know... romantic? like they were making it look like a lion from classical works of art.

I had not noticed but it is true reminds of lions of 19th century romanticism paintings like the lions painted by Delacroix on the other hand the smilodon Papo earlier version without mane, reminds me of the relief "the wounded lioness" of Assyria. I do not know if you have not noticed the detail.


Reptilia

#875
Sure the new Smilodon has exaggerated traits, it probably would have fitted more in the fantasy line rather than the prehistoric. But the detail is on par with the big cats in the wildlife line, if not better. I think that is consistent with Papo style, the running rex was a cross between a JP T-Rex and a KK V-Rex, so this one being a cross between "Scar" (The Lion King) and some creature out of a fantasy movie feels right to me.

I think these are the characteristics that make Papo prehistoric line outstanding when compared with other companies output, they mix various pop culture influences to create unique interpretations. The link to Delacroix paintings you suggested is also interesting and makes sense in that context. Then if you're looking for a more conservative interpretation of Smilodon I guess the previous version by Papo and the latest by Collecta are pretty fine.

terrorchicken

Quote from: Shonisaurus on February 19, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: terrorchicken on February 19, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
cave bears are usually portrayed with a large hump but I dont know if that's accurate or artistic license thats become popular interpretation.

I really dont like the smilodon. If it didnt  have that mane and they fixed the angle of the canines it look so much better and could maybe stand in for another saber cat species. The mane looks so... I dont know... romantic? like they were making it look like a lion from classical works of art.

I had not noticed but it is true reminds of lions of 19th century romanticism paintings like the lions painted by Delacroix on the other hand the smilodon Papo earlier version without mane, reminds me of the relief "the wounded lioness" of Assyria. I do not know if you have not noticed the detail.

yes I know the lioness relief (thank you art history class!)yes I can see a vague resemblance. Also was looking at classic/ancient lion art & now I recognize why the mane on the Papo lion looks familiar to me, it is just like how they drew lion manes in medieval bestiaries:




Silvanusaurus

I'm not even joking here, I would love it if more figures were based on medieval bestiaries.

CityRaptor

Medieval Bestiaries? Hmm, could you imagine a Harpy made by Papo?
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

Reptilia

#879
Quote from: terrorchicken on February 20, 2017, 11:14:00 PM
Also was looking at classic/ancient lion art & now I recognize why the mane on the Papo lion looks familiar to me, it is just like how they drew lion manes in medieval bestiaries

It is kind of a humanized rendition, definitely there's a similar vibe going on in the new Smilodon. The more people dig out these references the more I like it!

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