Interesting Godzilla Theory

[DinoFan2010]

A few days ago, my freind had a shower thought that Minilla from Son of Godzilla ended up growing to become the godzilla we see in Godzilla vs. Megalon. What do you guys think about this?

[PumperKrickel]

Minilla appears in Final Wars, so the theory doesn't work.

[DinoFan2010]

Final Wars has been confirmed to take place in an alternate universe from the other movies. Not to mention FW is a millenium film, not showa.

[PumperKrickel]

Final Wars has been confirmed to take place in an alternate universe from the other movies. Not to mention FW is a millenium film, not showa.

Okay, is there any evidence for this theory?

[GojiraGuy1954]

I've seen this idea posed before, except for Destroy All Monsters rather than Vs. Megalon, since that film takes place in the future.

[DinoFan2010]

Well, look at the faces of Minilla and MegaroGoji:

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Both have very similar faces, and a very friendly demeanor.

[Over9K]

Ok... here is my head cannon, which IMO aligns with what Toho has done...

The film continuity goes like this...

The '54 film is one continuity.

The Return Of Godzilla ('84) is a second continuity with the '54 film.

Shin Godzilla is a third stand-alone continuity.

Godzilla Minus One is the fourth and final canon continuity thus far.

Everything else is in-universe fiction, films from within canon, that are not themselves canon. The Showa films come from within the '54 continuity, the Heisei and Millennium films from the '84 continuity and the Reiwa films from the Shin Godzilla continuity.

Thusly Minilla does not exist, thank god, except for within the imagination of people whose minds have been twisted by the reality of Kaiju attacking their nation. If you watch the Showa films post-54, at first Godzilla is the villain in all the films, but as humanity gets used t0 the idea of his existence, they humanize him, in an attempt to cope with him. As the years go by, and he does not reappear in the canon, the people begin to mock him. The later films make him a figure of mirth and humor. This is the people of that continuity accepting the existence of Kaiju into their collective consciousness.

In the '84 continuity, you get all that, all those films, and THEN Godzilla reappears in Tokyo in canon, in that continuity. This is why they took 9 years off before '84, they were done with him. He reappears, and 5 years after his second raid, they begin making films again, darker films than before. They thought he was gone. The Heisei is that continuity dealing with this new reality, until they simply kill him on screen. By the end of the Millennium series, the end of that continuity, they are tired of all of it, they throw everything at the screen trying to exorcise the demon, a Final War.

Shin Godzilla's stand alone continuity has perhaps been truncated by the emergence of the Minus One continuity, which perhaps coexist in parallel, but do not cross-over at any rate. I put Legendary in the "Shin Godzilla Continuity" of films. The Shin Godzilla raid devastates Japan, and the Americans are captivated by it, making a series of films for thrills, but taking it out of Japan, and drastically changing the design of the monster to avoid offending the Japanese. Japan gets in on the game with the animes, using Godzilla in a less threatening form, on the road to recovery. IMO, without Minus One, the Reiwa films would have gotten more Showa-esque, as these eras all seem to start out serious, but get less-so as time goes on

In my head canon, the next series of films should be the Minus One continuity's population admitting, accepting and examining their role in the creation of the monster, exploring what that means through film. Reacting to the monster is one thing, a exploration of humanity's responsibility for that monster's existence is quite another. It's time for humanity to take that head-on again... it's time for a "Godzilla Is A Victim, The True Monster Is Man" film that does more than pay lip service to that concept.

[PumperKrickel]

Thusly Minilla does not exist, thank god, except for within the imagination of people whose minds have been twisted by the reality of Kaiju attacking their nation.

Wouldn't that mean that not only Minilla, but all Kaiju except for Godzilla are fictional? It's an interesting concept.

[DinoFan2010]

Would Godzilla Raids Again be in the same continuity as the 1954 film? Because, if so, that would mean that Anguirus also exists in the real world along with Godzilla.

[Over9K]

Thusly Minilla does not exist, thank god, except for within the imagination of people whose minds have been twisted by the reality of Kaiju attacking their nation.

Wouldn't that mean that not only Minilla, but all Kaiju except for Godzilla are fictional? It's an interesting concept.

Exactly! In those worlds, only Godzilla exists, although one can assume that any Toho Kaiju with a solo debut film, and subsequent appearances in either solo sequels to their own canon film, or appearances in cross-overs would have the same situation ie; Rodan '56, Varan '58, Mothra '61 and Dogorah '64  are all canon to themselves, but subsequent appearances of these Kaiju are in-universe fiction within that canon.

 

Would Godzilla Raids Again be in the same continuity as the 1954 film? Because, if so, that would mean that Anguirus also exists in the real world along with Godzilla.

Actually, Raids Again becomes the first movie. Godzilla attacks Odo Island and Tokyo in 1954, and a year later Toho releases their first Godzilla film, Godzilla Raids Again. Because the original Godzilla was killed, Toho felt that they needed to raise the stakes for the film, adding Anguirus.

[DinoFan2010]

Wait, is Godzilla 2014 a real world event, since Shin Godzilla was released 2 years after that film? And if so, would that make the MUTOs the only other canon kaiju besides Godzilla?

[Over9K]

Wait, is Godzilla 2014 a real world event, since Shin Godzilla was released 2 years after that film? And if so, would that make the MUTOs the only other canon kaiju besides Godzilla?

2014 and 1998 cannot be canon, because they are not Toho.

[DinoFan2010]

Ok, thanks!

[Over9K]

Ok, thanks!

This is all just my personal head-canon, nothing official. Just my brain trying to make 30-something separate films connect in a cohesive way.