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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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bmathison1972

#1120
The lip issue was never an issue to me. Don't care, never had.

But for everyone where it seems to be the ultimate deal breaker, can you even determine whether or not it has lips when its mouth is open? A lot of animals with lips can bear teeth when their mouths are open (even us silly humans).

Or are there pics of the model with its mouth closed?

EDIT: I scrolled up a bit more and I see with its mouth closed, it's lipless.

All that being said I really like these rexes, I just have no need to replace the one I have.


Turkeysaurus

Price is amazing though. You can buy tiny PNSO for 35 dollars, HLG gives a T.rex. Cameron costs more than twice.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: BlueKrono on April 08, 2025, 06:25:51 AMavatar_Blade-of-the-Moon @Blade-of-the-Moon Wait, that's a question you ask yourself?

Yeah, I do have a 1:35 Dinamation Rex incoming already I commissioned so..  :*D

I find it funny how it's lips now, a few years ago we would be arguing over the extent of feathers on it lol :))

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

I would still prefer many animals that are commonly depicted naked with feathers, just a couple down the top - kinda like what the Eofauna Mastodon seems to have (Not entirely sure didn't get around to picking one up yet). I am one of those weirdos who doesn't mind the random buttfluff on all the CollectA Ceratopsians, though.

Nolips are far less ignorable imo... Keeping the mouth open helps a bit. But someone pointed out that nolipped Theropods look like they're constantly chewing up their lower jaw and I can't unsee it anymore lol. T.rex is one of the genera where that effect is the least pronounced, though, since their lower jaw is quite hefty and their teeth are relatively short. I guess the PNSO lipmouth and Eofauna's Bulldoggy rex are probably worth picking up, once I get through my Ceratopsian/Thyreophoran/Mammal backlog.

DavidJamesArmsby

#1124
Lipless theropods often look too monstrous, feral, or deformed to me. Like they're big, ugly fantasy/sci-fi creatures and not real animals. This figure does look really nice though, and it's easily one of the least monstrous-looking lipless T. Rexes I've ever seen.
I'll be buying it, especially for the low price, but I sure wish it had lips.

Gwangi

Quote from: bmathison1972 on April 08, 2025, 03:04:21 PMThe lip issue was never an issue to me. Don't care, never had.

But for everyone where it seems to be the ultimate deal breaker, can you even determine whether or not it has lips when its mouth is open? A lot of animals with lips can bear teeth when their mouths are open (even us silly humans).

Or are there pics of the model with its mouth closed?

EDIT: I scrolled up a bit more and I see with its mouth closed, it's lipless.

All that being said I really like these rexes, I just have no need to replace the one I have.

It seems like a lot of folks cannot tell if a figure has lips when the mouth is open, which to me says just keep the mouth open.  ::D

Totoro

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 08, 2025, 04:39:02 PMLipless theropods often look too monsterous, feral, or deformed to me.

To me, the lipless beasts look worse than monsterous...they just look DERPY, which is something I cannot abide in my collection.   ::D

I pass on many hadrosaurs if they look like they are wearing shower caps.  I accept that I have a small problem here.   
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PoptartDoodle

Rebor's T. rex has its issues, but having a lipped and lip-less version was a genius strategy. I'm not sure why no one else has done this.

ceratopsian

I'd thought exactly the same, avatar_Gwangi @Gwangi!

Quote from: Gwangi on April 08, 2025, 04:41:37 PM.......

It seems like a lot of folks cannot tell if a figure has lips when the mouth is open, which to me says just keep the mouth open.  ::D

thebermuda303

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 08, 2025, 04:39:02 PMLipless theropods often look too monsterous, feral, or deformed to me. Like they're big, ugly fantasy/sci-fi creatures and not real animals. This figure does look really nice though, and it's easily one of the least monterous-looking lipless T. Rexes I've ever seen.
I'll be buying it, especially for the low price, but I sure wish it had lips.
I do agree that this guy looks very naturalistic even tho lips are missing, in general this might be my objectively favorite t rex figure around, great colors, it has those slightly larger scales that I love on my figures and pose is pretty nice looking. I'll most likely go for eofauna in the end but I'll wait for some reviews first.

Turkeysaurus

#1130
Quote from: Gwangi on April 08, 2025, 04:41:37 PMIt seems like a lot of folks cannot tell if a figure has lips when the mouth is open, which to me says just keep the mouth open.  ::D

I think PNSO easier to notice and probably accurate for lipless representation. Just like crocodiles there is not much room for imagination. They are straight out from the jaw.









On the other hand look at Haolonggood's lower jaw:





Elengassen

#1131
Quote from: SenSx on April 08, 2025, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: Sim on April 08, 2025, 07:38:41 AMI too am keen on getting past the Tyrannosaurus and Giganotosaurus. I find them uninteresting. If this Tyrannosaurus does lack lips, a reason for why could be obtained from the development of Haolonggood's first Tyrannosaurus. They received feedback to make the teeth more prominent and made it so on their first Tyrannosaurus. Perhaps in China the teeth being so visible on Tyrannosaurus is preferred.

I remember a comment from VampireDesign from HLG, stating that there is pressure from China people who love lipless.
That would explain why the most iconic species got figures with visible teeth and the others not.

Well now that I got Dinosaur_Model_Artwork to make le lips on figure, that isn't an issue anymore.


This is the first explanation I've heard that makes any kind of sense of HLG's inconsistent approach to lips. Oh well, at least the lack of them means I won't be tempted to buy it (I don't need another T. rex...)

As for the figure itself, it looks good (lips/no lips debate aside), but IMO both variants have a very typical Haolonggood colour scheme that feels similar to many of their other figures. Personally I was more looking forward to seeing the two plainer variants – not sure if/when those are coming.
One day we will know the truth about Spinosaurus... but not today.

Turkeysaurus



Look at it's lower jaws. No wonder we thought there is a chance upper teeth might fit in before seeing closed mouth pic.


Blade-of-the-Moon

I think a lot of the issues are just what we are used to vs any kind of accuracy. I watch and read all the comments I just don't post on them becasue it's an issue that's not solved yet like so many others in paleontology. There's no right answer. If a lipless theropod appeals to me I'll get it, same for a lipped one or anything in between. I actually have an assortment of different ones in my collection. My only real advice is buy what you like lol

Primeval12

I love the sculpt, detail, and color. I won't be getting this one though. I already ordered Sue and don't particularly love T. rex so don't need more.

Over9K

#1135
Blows my mind that somehow those upper teeth end up outside the lower jaw.




That moves this one down the list. The colors just aren't enough to make it an insta-buy, and full lips would have put it there. If I'm going to buy another lipless Tyrannosaurus, it has to be unlike any other lipless figure in my collection, it has to bring something specific or new ie; being modeled on a specific specimen, or displaying a specific pathology. A clean, T-pose, lipless Tyrannosaur just doesn't tick any boxes at this point.

EDIT: I wonder if that flappy lower jaw will make more work for the custom artists to put full lips on the figure...

oscars_dinos

.... I don't like them :||  :||  :|| .... I can understand why everyone does but to me despite the active pose they feel very stiff to me.

SRF

I wonder how PNSO's Cameron and this Rex look like side by side from a top down perspective.
But today, I'm just being father

Over9K

Quote from: SRF on April 08, 2025, 07:13:42 PMI wonder how PNSO's Cameron and this Rex look like side by side from a top down perspective.

Here's the HLG from the aerial view... posted by avatar_Turkeysaurus @Turkeysaurus a ways back.


Flaffy

Not interested in another lipless rex. But hope it sells well to fund more obscure taxa.

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