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Haolonggood - New for 2025

Started by Halichoeres, January 03, 2025, 09:22:18 PM

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Turkeysaurus

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 25, 2025, 10:57:21 AMavatar_Turkeysaurus @Turkeysaurus
I've wanted a line of paleo accurate (for their time) retro dino models for the longest time. Imagine a line that goes through the 1800's Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins depictions, into the 1900s Charles R. Knight depictions, and so on.
A line of dinosaur models that celebrates the history of our evolving understanding of dinosaurs would be amazing... don't know if it'd sell well though. :P

As far as i know REBOR's retrosaurus "Mesozoic Rhapsody" sold really well.

I have no doubt figures from those old painting would sell well. There is no competition and they are iconic that would have enough appeal.



DavidJamesArmsby

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Quote from: Turkeysaurus on April 25, 2025, 08:05:28 PM
Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 25, 2025, 10:57:21 AMavatar_Turkeysaurus @Turkeysaurus
I've wanted a line of paleo accurate (for their time) retro dino models for the longest time. Imagine a line that goes through the 1800's Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins depictions, into the 1900s Charles R. Knight depictions, and so on.
A line of dinosaur models that celebrates the history of our evolving understanding of dinosaurs would be amazing... don't know if it'd sell well though. :P

As far as i know REBOR's retrosaurus "Mesozoic Rhapsody" sold really well.

I have no doubt figures from those old painting would sell well. There is no competition and they are iconic that would have enough appeal.


I hope so. But you'd think if they sold well Rebor would release the other colour variants, and the Ray Harryhausen/Invicta-inpspired pieces too.
I bought both of those Rebor retro rexes and they're wonderful. The Charles R. Knight one with Gwangi colours, especially.

thomasw100

The Holonggood fan account has posted on X that the new figure would be released on 29 April.

DefinitelyNOTDilo

Quote from: thomasw100 on April 25, 2025, 09:26:15 PMThe Holonggood fan account has posted on X that the new figure would be released on 29 April.

If that's true then I'd say that's a very reasonable time to wait.

Over9K

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 25, 2025, 07:36:56 PMAnd it's actually funny you mention Papo, because they're responsible for the absolute worst QC I've ever experienced! XD Again, I love Papo's stuff, and their 2005-2018 stuff is responsible for addicting me to dino collecting to begin with, but when I ordered my original Brown standing T. Rex it arrived with no paint at all except the base brown shades. No nails paint, eye paint, no teeth paint. Just a couple shades of mottled brown.

In the world of collecting diecast cars, that's called an 'Error', and can sometimes increase the value of that example manyfold.

thomasw100

Quote from: DavidJamesArmsby on April 25, 2025, 07:05:20 PMI've bitten my tongue every time Haolonggood vs. PNSO QC has come up, but I feel the need to finally break my silence;
I have bought every single PNSO figure since 2020, and almost every Haolonggood model to date (I skipped T. Rex 1.0, Therizinosaurus, and one or two others), and I can say from first-hand experience that PNSO's QC is way worse than Haolonggood's.
Just off the top of my head, my Baryonyx had a super warped face (which I managed to fix), my Styracosaurus had a severely warped nose horn (which I couldn't fix), most of the plates of my stegosaurus are warped (which I also couldn't fix), I've had at least 3 missing display stands not present in the boxes, and I've had to clip off extra plastic flash from more PNSO models than I can count. The flash issue seems to have disappeared as I haven't seen it in like 2 years, but I remember it was especially bad on my Allosaurus and Dunkleosteus.
The absolute worst was my PNSO Saurophaganax, though, which came with the most severe paint scuffage I've ever seen on a model. It's all on the right side and I'm convinced it was dropped and stepped on in the factory before being boxed up. I bought this model directly from PNSO's Aliexpress store and after 10 or so days of back-and-forth, they refused to refund or replace it because they couldn't find any proof of my order. This has massively sullied my opinion of the company's customer support. I'm seriously considering sharing a picture of this model, because it's really, really bad.

PNSO bipeds also have widely known issues standing, and if you buy any of their older models (pre-2020?) they have signifigantly downgraded paintjobs. A dirty practice a lot of companies do to keep production costs of older models down, but I don't think Haolonggood has done this yet for any of their older models (but I could be wrong?).

In contrast, the only issue I've had with any of my Haolonggood models is my Alamosaurus has light paint scuffing on it's right side which is barely noticeable.
I still love the offerings from both Haolonggood and PNSO, I wouldn't buy virtually every single one of them if I didn't. But for models that cost SIGNIFIGANTLY more than any of their competitors, PNSO should not have these issues. Every time someone brings up bad QC in dinosaur models, I immediately think of PNSO.
I haven't had an issue since their Baryonyx, so I hope this is a sign of things to come.


First of all, I am really very sorry to hear that you had so much bad luck with your PNSO figures. I wonder if it makes any difference from which site one purchases them. I get everything from Lana Time Shop and it gives me peace of mind that whenever there is a problem, I can rest assured that they will provide a fair and reasonable solution.

I had very tiny paint defects on one or two of my PNSO figures, like a small 2 mm sized area on one leg of the Wuerhosaurus which fortunately I managed to fix myself. Other than that there was really nothing to complain about.

In contrast, I had several really bad cases of paint being rubbed off on my Haolonggood sauropods. On the Alamosaurus we talk about 5 cm sized area which was essentially white because the paint was rubbed off. Plus a number of smaller areas. This was so bad that Lana sent me a completely new Alamosaurus free of charge because there was no way I could fix this.

On my Haolonggood brown Brachiosaurus, the banding of the tail was poorly done with blue blotches inside the brown areas. Because I have anyway sent this figure to Dinosaur Models Artworks for fixing the head (filling the grooves on the mouth, removing the teeth), this could be fixed in a straightforward way.

On my green Camarasaurus, the transition between colors on the neck is razor sharp as if it were done with using a ruler. Not a nice natural natural transition. On the brown Camarasaurus, the tail had similar albeit much smaller issues like those on the Brachiosaurus. This again I could fix myself.

However, after all paint issues like these can be fixed straightforwardly so I am usually accepting most of this without complaining considering that Haolonggood provides very good value for money.

The only thing that persistently bothers me are the molding issues, i.e. areas of the figures have a glassy almost molten appearance on the surface and the surface texture is much less crisp than in other parts of the figure. And this I have not yet seen on any of the PNSO figures.

thomasw100

#1386
More teaser images appeared on Paleofiguras. They also stated that the first teaser image was flipped upside down to confuse us even more.




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SenSx

Looking good, but they are releasing everything except what I want: Iguanodon, Shantungosaurus and Mosasaurus... :-\

Sim

Quote from: SenSx on April 26, 2025, 08:13:50 AMLooking good, but they are releasing everything except what I want: Iguanodon, Shantungosaurus and Mosasaurus... :-\
I've felt kind of like this as well, except I'm not interested in any of the animals you mentioned getting made and I'm excited for this Saurolophus!

Flaffy

#1389
I'm very excited for the Saurolophus. While I do prefer the Asian giant as a species more, I don't believe we've ever had a proper scientific figure of the American species. So I am equally happy about it being S. osborni.

One nitpick though is I'm getting pretty tired of those tail highlights. I know it's HLG's signature and all but it wouldn't hurt to change up the formula every now and then.

Turkeysaurus

Shantugosaurus, Mosasaurus and Iguanodon are just rumors. Saurolophus is on silhouette pic.

suspsy

The two Saurolophus species are practically indistinguishable apart from size, so you can easily interpret the toy as either or as long as you don't mind the Asian species being a youngster.

Personally, I'm happy that it's the Canadian species.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Turkeysaurus

 Did they confirm it's american or give any measurements of the model?


thebermuda303

Quote from: suspsy on April 26, 2025, 01:44:46 PMThe two Saurolophus species are practically indistinguishable apart from size, so you can easily interpret the toy as either or as long as you don't mind the Asian species being a youngster.

Personally, I'm happy that it's the Canadian species.

One has scutes on its back while other doesn't, also heads are pretty different like the crest angle and snout length

Flaffy

Quote from: suspsy on April 26, 2025, 01:44:46 PMThe two Saurolophus species are practically indistinguishable apart from size, so you can easily interpret the toy as either or as long as you don't mind the Asian species being a youngster.

I disagree, Saurolophus is one of those rare instances where soft tissue preservation gives us a clue into how the two species differed in appearance in life. Their skulls had subtle differences too.

"Soft tissue reconstructions of Saurolophus based on preserved skin impressions. Variations in scale arrangement and patterning are used here as a basis for possible colour patterns, which are particularly evident in the caudal region. (A) Saurolophus osborni showing mottled appearance of tail integument. (B) Saurolophus angustirostris showing midline feature-scales and banded pattern on the tail. Illustration by L. Xing and Y. Liu. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0031295.g013"

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

The size comments are based on the silhouette size chart teaser thing HLG released earlier this year. The Saurolophus there is clearly the American species, sizewise.

If they did mean to make the Asian species I'd have to worry about them having somehow forgotten to include the stripes and feature scales. And if HLG had made a blunder that massive right after their Rictus Rex I would immediately lose all trust in them as a company forever and turn into a pubble of pink goop on the spot. So it has to be the American species for the sake of my peace of mind. Duh.  :)


Also what kind of psychopath would display a juvenile dinosaur without a matching adult for comparisons sake. Couldn't be me. Ehehem.

oscars_dinos

figure actually looks very good I'm interested

SidB

Quote from: Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur on April 26, 2025, 04:01:43 PMThe size comments are based on the silhouette size chart teaser thing HLG released earlier this year. The Saurolophus there is clearly the American species, sizewise.

If they did mean to make the Asian species I'd have to worry about them having somehow forgotten to include the stripes and feature scales. And if HLG had made a blunder that massive right after their Rictus Rex I would immediately lose all trust in them as a company forever and turn into a pubble of pink goop on the spot. So it has to be the American species for the sake of my peace of mind. Duh.  :)


Also what kind of psychopath would display a juvenile dinosaur without a matching adult for comparisons sake. Couldn't be me. Ehehem.
By all means, do what you have to do, but avoid at all costs becoming a "puddle of pink goop" - it's the worst kind, you know!

suspsy

Quote from: Flaffy on April 26, 2025, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: suspsy on April 26, 2025, 01:44:46 PMThe two Saurolophus species are practically indistinguishable apart from size, so you can easily interpret the toy as either or as long as you don't mind the Asian species being a youngster.

I disagree, Saurolophus is one of those rare instances where soft tissue preservation gives us a clue into how the two species differed in appearance in life. Their skulls had subtle differences too.

"Soft tissue reconstructions of Saurolophus based on preserved skin impressions. Variations in scale arrangement and patterning are used here as a basis for possible colour patterns, which are particularly evident in the caudal region. (A) Saurolophus osborni showing mottled appearance of tail integument. (B) Saurolophus angustirostris showing midline feature-scales and banded pattern on the tail. Illustration by L. Xing and Y. Liu. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0031295.g013"

Colour patterns are irrelevant in this case, though, since Haolonggood probably didn't take any guidance from that study when they decided on colour schemes for their Saurolophus. As for crest differences, they're pretty darned subtle. I still say the toy will be able to pass off as either or if one chooses. But we shall see what the final product looks like.
Untitled by suspsy3, on Flickr

Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur

Quote from: suspsy on April 26, 2025, 07:49:41 PM
Quote from: Flaffy on April 26, 2025, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: suspsy on April 26, 2025, 01:44:46 PMThe two Saurolophus species are practically indistinguishable apart from size, so you can easily interpret the toy as either or as long as you don't mind the Asian species being a youngster.

I disagree, Saurolophus is one of those rare instances where soft tissue preservation gives us a clue into how the two species differed in appearance in life. Their skulls had subtle differences too.

"Soft tissue reconstructions of Saurolophus based on preserved skin impressions. Variations in scale arrangement and patterning are used here as a basis for possible colour patterns, which are particularly evident in the caudal region. (A) Saurolophus osborni showing mottled appearance of tail integument. (B) Saurolophus angustirostris showing midline feature-scales and banded pattern on the tail. Illustration by L. Xing and Y. Liu. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0031295.g013"

Colour patterns are irrelevant in this case, though, since Haolonggood probably didn't take any guidance from that study when they decided on colour schemes for their Saurolophus. As for crest differences, they're pretty darned subtle. I still say the toy will be able to pass off as either or if one chooses. But we shall see what the final product looks like.
The fact that we know (of) the color patterns is one of the more major things this genus has going for it. Why even bother making an accuraccy-aimed dinosaur model if you don't care about the dinosaur? Would you say the same thing if HLG produced a green Borealopelta, a Duonychus with three fingers, or an Ankylosaurus without osteoderms? xP

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