Haolonggood - New for 2025

[suspsy]

Imagine the meltdown here if new version has no lips anymore. 

LOL, what if they read @suspsy comment on HLG lips inconsistency

"aspects that need further discussion"
wondering what are these? on DTF it was received well, i think

LoL

"We took @suspsy 's words into consideration and decided to remove lips for concistency in our products.
                        Haolonggood "

It would be a real bummer now if new version will end up worse.

In future, please don't tag me for this sort of thing. I don't find it the least bit amusing.

[MLMjp]

Maybe @Flaffy comments about the crests and nasal ridge? I literally have not seen any other criticism towards the model neithere here, neither on Paleofiguras.

EDIT: Perhaps from chinese collectors?

[Turkeysaurus]

In future, please don't tag me for this sort of thing. I don't find it the least bit amusing.

Okay.

[Gwangi]

Seems like such a waste the destroy models close to completion? I thought this model looked great.

Same

[Samrukia]

for a long time i haven't been so super excited about the model, loved all color versions. strange

Maybe @Flaffy comments about the crests and nasal ridge? I literally have not seen any other criticism towards the model neithere here, neither on Paleofiguras.

[Quiversaurus]

Wow I'm baffled. Why would HLG wanna stop, and even more, destroy all these models?

What was found to be wrong with them, if you are able to share V @vampiredesign ?

I thought the Giganotosauruses looked wonderful...

[SenSx]

People imply they reacted to the comments on this forum, but I think they feel more concerned about chinese customers.
Imagine they asked HLG to make the giga lipless 
Chinese customers seem to be much more lipless fans, so it's not out of the possibilities.

[StickyDan]

Oh wow, that's a waste And a bummer, too, the model looked fine to me as it was.
I really hope they don't, as we Germans say, "verschlimmbessern" it - i.e. make it worse in an attempt to fix it :/

[Monkeysaurus]

Oh wow, that's a waste And a bummer, too, the model looked fine to me as it was.
I really hope they don't, as we Germans say, "verschlimmbessern" it - i.e. make it worse in an attempt to fix it :/

I know right? I love those German phrases. I didn't really see anything wrong with the Giga at all. I am not as knowledgeable as you guys are in complete fairness, but it seems like such a waste to get rid of them all. I'd love to know what issues they were referring to. This was the first HLG theropod I was planning to get in quite a while.

[Quiversaurus]

Serious suggestion: don't destroy them, sell the lipped versions on the Western market. I guarantee there will be sales.

Then keep the lipless ones for the Chinese market.

Four versions. There's a first for everything HLG! Don't let the cost you've already put into the current versions go to waste 

V @vampiredesign

[MLMjp]

Serious suggestion: don't destroy them, sell the lipped versions on the Western market. I guarantee there will be sales.

Then keep the lipless ones for the Chinese market.

Four versions. There's a first for everything HLG! Don't let the cost you've already put into the current versions go to waste 

V @vampiredesign

I dont think this is about the lips as Haolonggod mentions "being more rigorous in creating every scientifically restored model in the future"

[Darko2300]

Oh wow, that's a waste And a bummer, too, the model looked fine to me as it was.
I really hope they don't, as we Germans say, "verschlimmbessern" it - i.e. make it worse in an attempt to fix it :/

I know right? I love those German phrases. I didn't really see anything wrong with the Giga at all. I am not as knowledgeable as you guys are in complete fairness, but it seems like such a waste to get rid of them all. I'd love to know what issues they were referring to. This was the first HLG theropod I was planning to get in quite a while.

And now we have to wait even longer to get it. 

[Mattyonyx]

https://i.ibb.co/gZMkgjjL/Screenshot-2025-07-22-at-17-56-03-21-Dan-F-su-X-Kamitoge-Antrodemus-Can-you-tell-me-where-they-confi.png

[Flaffy]

The answer is quite simple: They did not get proper permission from Dan to use his skeletal, hence is trying to save face and avoid potential legal troubles related to copyright. They wouldn't have taken such drastic measures otherwise.


The ridge issue has spread quite far too. Collectors on Baidu noted as such. I've browsed the comments on various threads and the reactions certainly aren't as positive as this forum.

[MLMjp]

Yikes! Now it makes sense.

[Sim]

Some of the statements in the comments are incorrect though, as Mark Witton pointed out the nasal ridge in carcharodontosaurids is single.  Also, most of the nasal in Giganotosaurus has been found, it just wasn't figured in the paper that named it, as can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giganotosarus_carolinii_restos_originales_del_cr%C3%A1neo.JPG

[Flaffy]

Some of the statements in the comments are incorrect though, as Mark Witton pointed out the nasal ridge in carcharodontosaurids is single.  Also, most of the nasal in Giganotosaurus has been found, it just wasn't figured in the paper that named it, as can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giganotosarus_carolinii_restos_originales_del_cr%C3%A1neo.JPG

Yes the nasals would've been a single ridge according to Witton. But on the figure we can clearly see that the ridge extends past the nasals and onto the lacrimal bone (between the lacrimal crests), which I do not find very likely and is what @Kamitoge is referring to. From the additional angles they do not appear to be connected structures either, but two separate lacrimal ridges and one nasolacrimal ridge.

We have evidence of rugosities on the rostral end of the nasals, hence I find it more likely that the ridge would've been localised to this region instead of extending onto the smoother regions distally. This is again supported by Witton's reconstructions too. The keratin of the nasal ridge does not necessarily go between the lacrimal crests. It's not as simple a matter as whether the crest/ridge was single or connected.

[Monkeysaurus]

I don't get it. You need permission to use certain skeletal drawings to make figures? Wouldn't that be akin to copyrighting the moon?

[SidB]

Yikes! Now it makes sense.

It certainly does!

[bmathison1972]

I don't see how using a drawing of a skeleton for inspiration for a fleshed out figure is any copyright infringement, unless illustrations of the skeleton were used in marketing, advertising, etc.

In the end, a two-dimensional skeleton illustration and a three-dimensional plastic toy are not comparable (unless there is some legal mumbo jumbo I am aware of).



And with regards to destroying all those models, such a waste indeed. They would have sold, no matter what pedantic arm-chair paleontologists on the DTF might say...