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Gnasty Gnorc new collection and reviewing past releases

Started by GnastyGnorc, November 18, 2024, 11:49:38 PM

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GnastyGnorc

Hi I am very new to this forum and semi new to collecting. And as of now PNSO is the the company that has really gripped me. Although I am open to models from other places as well.

For now, I am really trying to focus my collection on North American species at 1:35 scale. Eventually I would love to displays based on formation in my office.

That being said I am trying to only buy figures that I deem as scientifically accurate as possible. Because of that I have been binging DinosDragons youtube channel. Such a gem in this niche space.

My current (very small) collection is as follows:

PNSO
Lambeosaurus
Sauropelta
Styracosaurus
Saurophaganax (I am aware of the new research but I am content for this just being an excellent large Allosaurus. Which I assume must of still existed by the remains)
Lokiceratops (Still awaiting delivery

I am reviewing older releases and are any of the following PNSO releases considered outdated based on new scientific papers or just bad on release?

Centrosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Zuul
Spinops
Borealopelta is this truly 1:35 or close? I believe the DinosDragons review said it was 1:31 but in another review said it was close to 1:36?
Parasaurolophus
Triceratops
Torosaurus



DefinitelyNOTDilo

Hi, welcome! For the most part those models are all good, but the PNSO Anky is a bit oversized and doesn't have the best anatomy, I'd personally recommend waiting to get the Eofauna Anky as it's looking to be the most accurate on the market. Borealopelta from what I can tell is also oversized, but is in general a good figure. And I think Spinops is oversized but I'm not entirely sure, it's hard to find scales for some of the older models.

GnastyGnorc

Quote from: DefinitelyNOTDilo on November 19, 2024, 12:05:55 AMHi, welcome! For the most part those models are all good, but the PNSO Anky is a bit oversized and doesn't have the best anatomy, I'd personally recommend waiting to get the Eofauna Anky as it's looking to be the most accurate on the market. Borealopelta from what I can tell is also oversized, but is in general a good figure. And I think Spinops is oversized but I'm not entirely sure, it's hard to find scales for some of the older models.

good to know! Yea I have seen the eofauna and like what I see so far. What are some of the anatomical issues in the PNSO Ankylosaurus?

DefinitelyNOTDilo

To my untrained eye the shape of the torso and positioning of the osteoderms stand out the most. The tail is also bent seemingly more than it could in life, there is a sharp bend in the end of the tail, but the back half of ankylosaur tails would have been essentially stiffened rods.

Halichoeres

I get closer to 1:25 for the PNSO Borealopelta. The CollectA version is about 1:40, so if you're trying to stick to one scale it might fit in as a young animal.
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avatar_DefinitelyNOTDilo @DefinitelyNOTDilo the positioning of the osteoderms is still tentative since they have never been described in the position they occupied when the animal was alive. In fact, almost all restorations are sightly different, some wildly so.

avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres agree on the Borealopleta, it's around 1:20, not even the largest nodosaur would be this big in 1:35 and Borealopelta was not on the larger side.
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DefinitelyNOTDilo

Quote from: Leyster on November 20, 2024, 03:26:01 PMavatar_DefinitelyNOTDilo @DefinitelyNOTDilo the positioning of the osteoderms is still tentative since they have never been described in the position they occupied when the animal was alive. In fact, almost all restorations are sightly different, some wildly so.

While that is true, I don't believe PNSO's model really lines up with what we know about ankylosaurs or it's relatives found with osteoderms in situ

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GnastyGnorc

Quote from: Leyster on November 20, 2024, 03:26:01 PMavatar_DefinitelyNOTDilo @DefinitelyNOTDilo the positioning of the osteoderms is still tentative since they have never been described in the position they occupied when the animal was alive. In fact, almost all restorations are sightly different, some wildly so.

avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres agree on the Borealopleta, it's around 1:20, not even the largest nodosaur would be this big in 1:35 and Borealopelta was not on the larger side.

How are you getting to 1:20? With a 5.5 meter long individual and I would say it comes out to 1:31.

I originally was under the impression that borealopelta was bigger than sauropelta but it seems like that is the opposite now.

crazy8wizard

I think the scaling changes based on what you measure. Borealopelta is missing most of its back half including the tail so any specific length past the front of the hips is estimated.

Leyster

Quote from: GnastyGnorc on November 24, 2024, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: Leyster on November 20, 2024, 03:26:01 PMavatar_DefinitelyNOTDilo @DefinitelyNOTDilo the positioning of the osteoderms is still tentative since they have never been described in the position they occupied when the animal was alive. In fact, almost all restorations are sightly different, some wildly so.

avatar_Halichoeres @Halichoeres agree on the Borealopleta, it's around 1:20, not even the largest nodosaur would be this big in 1:35 and Borealopelta was not on the larger side.

How are you getting to 1:20? With a 5.5 meter long individual and I would say it comes out to 1:31.

I originally was under the impression that borealopelta was bigger than sauropelta but it seems like that is the opposite now.
Been a lot, but I think I based it on skull lenght. It's always my preferred method when available, as is not dependant on total lenght (often extimated due to incompleteness). If the skull is not available, then I go with the femur.

Top scalebars are 10 cm, skull lenght from top of the skull to the rostral bone is sightly more than 30 cm, skull lenght of the model taken from the same point is less than 2 cm.
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Halichoeres

Yeah, the PNSO has a slightly oversized head. I got 1:25 from postcranial elements.
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