PREHISTORIC PLANET: ICE AGE

[Torvosaurus]

I know and agree the main focus is the animals. duh lol of course i want to see the various beasts of the world.
But if this is 10,000 bc, this would be the transition area between Paleolithic and Mesolithic? It would be amazing to see the human cultures explored too, not just lumped as "cro-magnons". Magdalenians/Proto-WHG, Caucasus Hunter Gatherers, Natufians, WSHG/EHG. because this would also explore our own ancestors. And to see rhe cultures be depicted with accuracy, not just caricatures.

I'd prefer they avoided humans altogether. At some point it becomes less of a paleontology series and more of an anthropology one. I really dislike it when they cross that barrier.

Torvo

I agree on it can be too much at once.
May you expand why exactly you do not like it though?

I'm just more of an animal-centric kinda guy who finds human cultures as a nuisance in programs like this. I've seen numerous programs on Neandertals, Denisovans, the ghost Western European lineage, Homo erectus, Homo floriensis, Homo luzonensis, Homo naledi, various European stone-age cultures, etc. (all based on what we know of these cultures and/or evidence of different human behaviors among them, with very little to do with the animals they lived among) that I don't see the need for human culture to be brought into a documentary like this. With the possible exception when humans are prey and get ate by a sabre-tooth. 😀

Torvo

[Trenchcoated Rebbachisaur]

I hope that if they have humans, they stay in the background, unless they're relevant to the stories of the focus animals somehow. Kinda like how in stuff like Blue Planet, Humans remain offscreen until it's time to showcase filiming methods or introduce a guy who has been starting an effort to safeguard baby leatherback turtles.

[Dynomikegojira]

Yeah I more of in the background proponent myself but Torvo brought up a good point we already have so many paleodocs about ancient humans that it may seem redundant to do here but I'd still say go for it as long as it's sparingly.

[AcryAllo]

I definitely welcome a break from dinosaurs (as much as I'd love infinite seasons dedicated to dinosaurs). I do hope it applies that speculative creativity that made the series so captivating in the first place. Dunno how far you could push recent mammals, but at the very least they could do some Hodari Nundu-esque "these interactions MUST have happened" scenarios.

Nundu is the only paleo artist that seriously disgusts me...He's done a drawing where a dromaeosaur stares at a private organ of dead sauropod

[Stegotyranno420]

Yeah I more of in the background proponent myself but Torvo brought up a good point we already have so many paleodocs about ancient humans that it may seem redundant to do here but I'd still say go for it as long as it's sparingly.

It appears redundant because most of the time is always lumped and caricatured as some cro-magnon stereotype rather than the actual ethnic diversity of that time. But I see Torvos point better and I agree with him. Its better to make a separate documentary if we want to do stuff with humans.

@AcryAllo I wont go so far to say I dislike Hodari, since his ideas can be super captivating, and also I remember looking at his drawings as a little kid. But now u mentioned that...im having secondary thoughts.
Tbh i have this same problem with CM Koseman and Joschua Knuppe. They can too avant garde, and personally their style either looks incomplete or bizarre. Joschua is no stranger to making scenes of intercourse or defecation which I get "is natural and part of showing animals as animals" but really man??? 🫣 Though some of his more complete/official works can be nice.

[AcryAllo]

Yeah I more of in the background proponent myself but Torvo brought up a good point we already have so many paleodocs about ancient humans that it may seem redundant to do here but I'd still say go for it as long as it's sparingly.

It appears redundant because most of the time is always lumped and caricatured as some cro-magnon stereotype rather than the actual ethnic diversity of that time. But I see Torvos point better and I agree with him. Its better to make a separate documentary if we want to do stuff with humans.

@AcryAllo I wont go so far to say I dislike Hodari, since his ideas can be super captivating, and also I remember looking at his drawings as a little kid. But now u mentioned that...im having secondary thoughts.
Tbh i have this same problem with CM Koseman and Joschua Knuppe. They can too avant garde, and personally their style either looks incomplete or bizarre. Joschua is no stranger to making scenes of intercourse or defecation which I get "is natural and part of showing animals as animals" but really man??? 🫣 Though some of his more complete/official works can be nice.

Yeah, only reason I was unlucky enough to find out was when someone posted it on a thread on Dinopedia Fandom

[AcryAllo]

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