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Human Genome Project Disproves Evolution?

Started by Flaffy, August 30, 2016, 03:23:34 AM

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Flaffy

I see quite a few creationists use the Human Genome Project to try and disprove evolution.
But does it really disprove evolution?


Gwangi


DinoLord

I don't see how it would. What are their lines of argument?

tyrantqueen


Halichoeres

My training is in evolutionary biology and my family is mostly creationists, so I think I would have heard about it, but I'd love to see what someone might have come up with. Do expand.
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Certain people will also claim that feathered dinosaurs are a fraud invented by "the Chinese" (direct quoting here) to harm America by destroying conservative values with evolution. Certain people will also claim that the second Ghostbusters movie was better than the original. Doesn't mean either has any ground to stand on.

Flaffy

#6
Direct quote from creationist comment.
"The neo-Darwinian, incremental, micro-mutation evolutionary model (as promoted by Richard Dawkins and others) has been disproved by the completion of the Human Genome Project in 2001. Among their many findings, they have demonstrated that it is not by one small, incremental change at a time whereby change within an organism actually takes place. In fact, for many things, there are entire gene complexes that must first be in place in order for a single inheritable trait to change. The truth is, sometimes it takes ten, fifteen, or more specific changes in order to change just one single gene action, and many gene actions are needed in order to produce one inheritable trait. Parts of living creatures are constructed of intricate components with interrelated connections that all need to be in place in order for it to work, these are controlled by many genes that all have to act together in the proper sequence. Natural selection would not choose parts that did not have all of their components existing, in place, connected, and regulated because the parts simply would not work. Thus all of the beneficial mutations (and none of the destructive ones) must happen all at the same time by "pure, random chance." This is physically and demonstrably impossible."
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I am so tempted to pick that apart...

But no. Just no. It's a bunch of poppycock that just uses the 'genome' as an excuse, because it sounds scientific. These same people try to use thermodynamics, quantum physics and pretty much any other large-sounding scientific principle to the same end, with about the same result (vis nobody takes it seriously except themselves).

CityRaptor

I would file that kind of claim under the typical creationist nonsense.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

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suspsy

Debating creationists is actually one of my hobbies, however, this topic does not belong here or anywhere else on the DTF. Indeed, one of the things I love about this place is that I can get away from all that chicanery.

Can someone please lock this thread?
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DinoToyForum

Locked, because there's nowhere for a meaningful conversation on creationism to go.



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