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Jurassic World: Rebirth (July 2, 2025) 🦕

Started by Giganotosaurus, January 22, 2024, 08:12:19 PM

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Duna

#360
Soo, when we all thought we wouldn't have to watch any more stupid hybrid again, they just go with something that looks like a BELUGA WHALE ALIEN, which isn't even a dinosaur, just because they think the public is STUPID and can't be frightened by dinosaurs or a good suspense scene. Jurassic Park was scary in some scenes and there wasn't even a dinosaur in sight! That's good plot, good music and good filming.

At least the garbage that was that movie about locusts, Dominion, didn't have any stupid hybrids so I thought it was the end of that nonsense.

The spinosaurus just looks like the JW Baryonyx model (which is quite horrible by the way) with sail.
"titanosaurus"??? There are literally dozens of large sauropods and they come with that THING with sails and a whip like tail ... in titanosaurus?? Just the type of sauropods that didn't have such long TAILS?? ARE YOU JUST JOKING??

I haven't been able to watch the trailer more that once because I got angrier by the second, so that's it.


Dilopho

Quote from: Bread on February 05, 2025, 04:19:08 PMI see others are criticizing the plot or idea to head back to the island. While I agree, I am curious if everyone would just simply be fine with concept of "Yeah, we just want to go to the island due to dinosaurs being there, the desire to research." I for one was initially thinking this was the point of the expedition of the film but I'm curious to what everyone thinks about this blunt and simple concept prior to the trailer's reveal.
That works for me. But then again, maybe not so for the general public who would think that would be the height of stupidity.

MLMjp

#362
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 05, 2025, 03:32:45 PMTitanosaurus with those sails..just make a Amargasaurus? The Spinos are JW Baryonyx with sails. Mosa looks good, Quetz is hard to see in all the action but acceptable. Should have used Firebeak from Kenner.  The Red Rex is stellar. I love the that it's finally in a film. Dilo was cool and I think I see spots on it?  No ceratopsians..yet.  Will I love these enough to buy figures and statues? IDK yet.
Yeah I'm not very optimistic about getting any toys...

Tyrannosaurus? I dont need more.
Spinosaurus? Maybe if the head on the toy doesn't look as ugly as in the film...
Titanosaurus? Don't have space for more large sauropods, and I still have to get the Diplodocus.
Mosasaurus? Might be the best redesing so far...but do I really need another huge toy of it?
Quetzalcoatlus? Of an inferior desing? Nope.
The mutant? Not even for free.

Maybe a new species that we haven seen yet...



Gwangi

Quote from: MLMjp on February 05, 2025, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on February 05, 2025, 03:32:45 PMTitanosaurus with those sails..just make a Amargasaurus? The Spinos are JW Baryonyx with sails. Mosa looks good, Quetz is hard to see in all the action but acceptable. Should have used Firebeak from Kenner.  The Red Rex is stellar. I love the that it's finally in a film. Dilo was cool and I think I see spots on it?  No ceratopsians..yet.  Will I love these enough to buy figures and statues? IDK yet.
Yeah I'm not very optimistic about getting any toys...

Tyrannosaurus? I dont need more.
Spinosaurus? Maybe if the head on the toy doesn't look as ugly as in the film...
Titanosaurus? Don't have space for more large sauropods, and I still have to get the Diplodocus.
Mosasaurus? Might be the best redesing so far...but do I really need another huge toy of it?
Quetzalcoatlus? Of an inferior desing? Nope.
The mutant? Not even for free.

Maybe a new species that we haven seen yet...




Of the toy images that have been leaked the Spinosaurus and Parasaurolophus look like the only ones of interest to me.

Joliezac

Even if Nanmu, for example, made statue figures of these dinosaurs shown, I don't think I'd be interested in any of them. They're mostly dinosaurs we've seen before and I have zero interest in that mutant.

I was hyped for the trailer but had no idea there was going to be some mutant monster... I'm less excited now.

Dilopho

Quote from: Gwangi on February 05, 2025, 05:03:34 PMOf the toy images that have been leaked the Spinosaurus and Parasaurolophus look like the only ones of interest to me.
Eh? There were images and not just text listings?

MLMjp

#366

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Dilopho

Quote from: MLMjp on February 05, 2025, 05:09:18 PMOh boy...

That's just some poor artwork renders like what they always have out for these films, it's not a good representation of the design.

DinoToyForum

Quote from: Dilopho on February 05, 2025, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: MLMjp on February 05, 2025, 05:09:18 PMOh boy...

That's just some poor artwork renders like what they always have out for these films, it's not a good representation of the design.



Nah, that's also pretty much what it looks like in the trailer:
Screenshot 2025-02-05 at 17.26.15.png



Dilopho


I mean just look at the Mosasaurus art, it doesn't look like the one in the trailer. It has a pinched together mouth at the back.

Funk

Quote from: DinoToyForum on February 05, 2025, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: Dilopho on February 05, 2025, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: MLMjp on February 05, 2025, 05:09:18 PMOh boy...

That's just some poor artwork renders like what they always have out for these films, it's not a good representation of the design.



Nah, that's also pretty much what it looks like in the trailer:
Screenshot 2025-02-05 at 17.26.15.png

This... Makes the JP3 design look accurate... How...

Gwangi

Quote from: Dilopho on February 05, 2025, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on February 05, 2025, 05:03:34 PMOf the toy images that have been leaked the Spinosaurus and Parasaurolophus look like the only ones of interest to me.
Eh? There were images and not just text listings?

Yeah, there's a low resolution image of some toys going around on Facebook. Appears to be legit.

Jose S.M.

I don't get the JP vibes that the marketing said this has anywhere. It gives me more Skull Island vibes if anything or Hollow Earth.

I don't mind the sailed sauropods, don't think is too different than the air sacs from the Dreadnoughtus in Prehistoric Planet. Spinosaurus is not too terrible and Mosasaurus and Tyrannosaurus look great. The Quetzalcoatlus looks bad and it was one of the few great things about Dominion so it's a shame it was changed.

I was on board with everything still until the mutant, I was hoping it was a dinosaur looking creature with some gnarly deformities or something like that, not an alien looking thing. And isn't that supposed to be a unknown species or something like that? Where would that fit? It doesn't look like anything! Terrible decision in my opinion.


DinoToyForum

#373
Quote from: Jose S.M. on February 05, 2025, 05:42:53 PMI don't get the JP vibes that the marketing said this has anywhere. It gives me more Skull Island vibes if anything or Hollow Earth.

I don't mind the sailed sauropods, don't think is too different than the air sacs from the Dreadnoughtus in Prehistoric Planet. Spinosaurus is not too terrible and Mosasaurus and Tyrannosaurus look great. The Quetzalcoatlus looks bad and it was one of the few great things about Dominion so it's a shame it was changed.

I was on board with everything still until the mutant, I was hoping it was a dinosaur looking creature with some gnarly deformities or something like that, not an alien looking thing. And isn't that supposed to be a unknown species or something like that? Where would that fit? It doesn't look like anything! Terrible decision in my opinion.

I still think they missed a trick when they started introducing fictional species in the JW series... instead of mutants they could have made up fictional 'real' dinosaurs, i.e. known only from DNA samples found in a mosquito but not yet discovered in the fossil record. That would have given the movie makers the creative license to make up monstrous creatures, but still remain rooted in the spirit of resurrecting prehistory. I remember presuming this to be the case way back when I saw the first Jurassic World trailer featuring the Indominus and thinking what a clever idea that was. Turns out, I gave them too much credit, that film was far from clever! And look where we are now.



Dilopho

Quote from: DinoToyForum on February 05, 2025, 05:54:08 PMI still think they missed a trick when they started introducing fictional species in the JW series... instead of mutants they could have made up fictional 'real' dinosaurs, i.e. known only from DNA samples found in a mosquito but not yet discovered in the fossil record. That would have given the movie makers the creative license to make up monstrous creatures, but still remain rooted in the spirit of resurrecting prehistory. I remember presuming this to be the case way back when I saw the first Jurassic World trailer featuring the Indominus and thinking what a clever idea that was. Turns out, I gave them too much credit, that film was far from clever! And look where we are now.

Actually, that's what they were going for originally. It was called a Malusaurus in early concepts and that was the exact origin of it.

Funk

Quote from: DinoToyForum on February 05, 2025, 05:54:08 PM
Quote from: Jose S.M. on February 05, 2025, 05:42:53 PMI don't get the JP vibes that the marketing said this has anywhere. It gives me more Skull Island vibes if anything or Hollow Earth.

I don't mind the sailed sauropods, don't think is too different than the air sacs from the Dreadnoughtus in Prehistoric Planet. Spinosaurus is not too terrible and Mosasaurus and Tyrannosaurus look great. The Quetzalcoatlus looks bad and it was one of the few great things about Dominion so it's a shame it was changed.

I was on board with everything still until the mutant, I was hoping it was a dinosaur looking creature with some gnarly deformities or something like that, not an alien looking thing. And isn't that supposed to be a unknown species or something like that? Where would that fit? It doesn't look like anything! Terrible decision in my opinion.

I still think they missed a trick when they started introducing fictional species in the JW series... instead of mutants they could have made up fictional 'real' dinosaurs, i.e. known only from DNA samples found in a mosquito but not yet discovered in the fossil record. That would have given the movie makers the creative license to make up monstrous creatures, but still remain rooted in the spirit of resurrecting prehistory. I remember presuming this to be the case way back when I saw the first Jurassic World trailer featuring the Indominus and thinking what a clever idea that was. Turns out, I gave them too much credit, that film was far from clever! And look where we are now.
Almost what they did for Peter Jackson's King Kong, with new spins on existing dinosaur groups.

Prehistory Resurrection

#376
Finally, the official, real trailer. Not those AI generated ones... Even before the trailer, I found it hard to comprehend the plot of the film. Dominion's plot could have been about finding a solution to the dinosaurs spreading all over the world, but it wasn't. The main plot was instead about finding a solution to the locusts infestation. This new movie had the chance, but yet, once again; it's another plot. It's collecting DNA samples...for medical purposes. Why, just... why? This was covered in Dominion, albeit somewhat loosely. Also, why is it from only the largest species? Also, why is it once again an expedition going to an out-of-reach, isolated environment? I thought the dinosaurs were spreading all over the earth by now. Also what is the island used as a research facility for the original park being talked about? Is it Isla Sorna? And why the new variants/ re-designs for some species? What happened to the original clones? I guess all of these questions will be answered only after watching the movie. Finally, the dialogue feels generic and could be better.

On the positive side, I like the humor used to enlighten the mood. Moreover, I liked the "When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth" banner, a nice throwback from the original movie. Furthermore, I liked the Titanosaurs shot; it was like fantasy creatures in a fantasy land. Also, as for the mutant abomination; this was originally an idea for a fourth Jurassic Park movie that was later scrapped. While disliked by many, this horror aspect gets finally explored in this movie. Even James Cameron, who would almost direct the original film, said in an interview that "Mine would have been Aliens with dinosaurs... I'd have gone further, nastier, much nastier." I also liked the T-Rex swimming scene; a scene from the novel that wasn't seen on the big screen until now. It also reminds me of the similar scene in Prehistoric Planet. Finally, I liked the aquatic Spinosaurs cooperating with the Mosasaur to attack the boat. It reminds me of modern-day animals helping each other; called mutualism or symbiosis. Some species work together to find a meal or guard against predators. In this case, it is to "defend territory, stalk, hunt".

All in all, seems like an okay movie, though it could be better in some aspects. This is once again judging only the trailer, and I am yet to give my opinion on the whole of the film.

Abobo


Faelrin

#378
So the design leaks were right more or less. Only one we've yet to see is the Aquilops outside a leaked plushie. Other then the plot, I'm not too big of a fan of most creatures in the film being spoiled right off the bat with this trailer. Though the marketing (or lack there of) has been good up to this point. But I mostly like what I see.

So for starters I screencapped all the creatures revealed in this trailer.

Titanosaur is sort of what the leaks described it as, with the sails and bulbous head. I like the color work we can see here for it, with the stripes, and the orange sails. Kind of gives me PNSO Alamosaurus vibes honestly (minus the sails). I also wonder if the sails is a throwback to the Toho kaiju design, which I think is a fun touch. Can't wait to see Mattel's figure of this one.



Got to say I am surprised at how the Spinosaurus is nearly there. The only thing holding it back is the short neck and the FK Baryonyx like jaws. Otherwise it has the features we've come to expect, such as the large rounded sail, the paddle like tail, and even a crest atop the head for post 2020 reconstructions. Outside of the colorful sails, it's pretty much a bland grey which is unfortunate. The JPIII one reigns supreme on fantastic color design. In any case, I'm stoked to see how both Mattel and Frontier handle this one (especially the later with all their alternative color options).

Also worth mentioning that they did mention some of the animals would look a little off in that Vanity Fair article, so maybe that's why it has the awful jaws and short neck? Ditto for the below Quetzalcoatlus design.

Edit: Lol I saw a comment on reddit saying it must have more frog DNA because of its short neck. That's one way to think of it.



The Quetzalcoatlus reminds me of the og Kenner toy. Not a 1:1 obviously, but it has the large head and shorter neck like it. And at least it has pycnofibers again thankfully. I actually prefer the color design here to the Dominion one, although the Dominion one is more faithful to the real animal (other then being oversized). Also hoping we get a new toy of this one's design.





The mutant is exactly what the leaks described it as, and while I was hoping we could do without that, it is what it is.



The (failed) raptor clone seems almost faithful to the JP design which is refreshing (particularly the color design). Something about the head looks off to me, but that might also be the point, who knows. Short of that one, they didn't spoil the live one's design which is surprising (or maybe they did with that dead one?).



Mosasaurus is definitely looking better then the JW design, but only because its croc features have been toned down and it has the proper fluke tail.



The Dilophosaurus returning is the only surprise here, and it looks to be based on the Dominion design again. Not too surprising, considering the T. rex design. While the Spinosaurus and Mosasaurus cooperative hunting thing might seem dumb, there are plenty of ocean animals that more or less do this, so I'm not too fussed about it. If anything one should be more fussed about them going after such small prey (but that's what we come to expect for these films).

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OwossoHarpist

Quote from: Duna on February 05, 2025, 04:22:30 PMSoo, when we all thought we wouldn't have to watch any more stupid hybrid again, they just go with something from a japanese monster movie, which isn't even a dinosaur, just because they think the public is STUPID and can't be frightened by dinosaurs or a good suspense scene. Jurassic Park was scary in some scenes and there wasn't even a dinosaur in sight! That's good plot, good music and good filming.

At least the garbage that was that movie about locusts, Dominion, didn't have any stupid hybrids so I thought it was the end of that nonsense.

The spinosaurus just looks like the Baryonyx model (which is quite horrible by the way) with sail.

WTF is "titanosaurus"??? They just invented another new species? There are literally dozens of large sauropods and they come with that MONSTER with a sail on top of the head and a whip like tail ... in titanosaurus?? Just the type of sauropods that didn't have such long TAILS?? ARE YOU JUST JOKING??

I haven't been able to watch the trailer more that once because I got angrier by the second, so that's it.

By the looks of it, I say the sauropod is a total rip off from Magic the Gathering: Ixalon, which I think that's where they got the idea for all of the island scenery from.

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