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Modern shark models that work as prehistoric sharks?

Started by Sauropodlet, April 28, 2014, 03:48:02 AM

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Sauropodlet

I'm not really that familiar with shark evolution.  Are there any sharks alive today that survive intact from Mesozoic times (i.e. modern shark models that would work with my collection of marine reptiles)?

Among the rays I know there were sawfish like modern ones (but larger) and have picked up some sawfish to go with my Spinosaurs. What about other sharks/rays? Not sure if this is the right place to post this.



SBell

Just get the Safari Prehistoric Sharks toob. Problem solved!

Although, really, most requiem and mackerel sharks would stand in just fine for Cretaceous ones like Cretoxyrhina and Squalicorax.

Sauropodlet

Quote from: SBell on April 28, 2014, 05:21:18 AM
Just get the Safari Prehistoric Sharks toob. Problem solved!

Although, really, most requiem and mackerel sharks would stand in just fine for Cretaceous ones like Cretoxyrhina and Squalicorax.

Unless your problem is that you pretty much have all the museum-quality aquatic reptiles and need a sideline to keep collectingMesozoic sea critters... :)

But thank you for telling me which families are most similar to their Mesozoic antecedents. When you say 'mackerel sharks,' do you mean all of Order Lamniformes or just family Lamnidae (looks like the latter)?

So looks like among the commonly-produced species of shark, these guys would fit the bill:

Great White
Mako (any)
Tiger Shark
Blue Shark



SBell

Quote from: Sauropodlet on April 28, 2014, 08:40:20 AM
Quote from: SBell on April 28, 2014, 05:21:18 AM
Just get the Safari Prehistoric Sharks toob. Problem solved!

Although, really, most requiem and mackerel sharks would stand in just fine for Cretaceous ones like Cretoxyrhina and Squalicorax.

Unless your problem is that you pretty much have all the museum-quality aquatic reptiles and need a sideline to keep collectingMesozoic sea critters... :)

But thank you for telling me which families are most similar to their Mesozoic antecedents. When you say 'mackerel sharks,' do you mean all of Order Lamniformes or just family Lamnidae (looks like the latter)?

So looks like among the commonly-produced species of shark, these guys would fit the bill:

Great White
Mako (any)
Tiger Shark
Blue Shark

More likely just the lamnids. And yeah, those ones would be the usual suspects. I would also include bull sharks.

brandem

well kaiyodo makes a frilled shark, any good goblin shark could sub for Scapanorhynchus, and heck you could grab a nurse shark and call it Ptychodus maybe even do some fun modifications to it.

SpittersForEver

Quote from: brandem on April 28, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
well kaiyodo makes a frilled shark, any good goblin shark could sub for Scapanorhynchus, and heck you could grab a nurse shark and call it Ptychodus maybe even do some fun modifications to it.

I totally agree with you. You have very good advice!!!

Sabrefox

#6
Gonna let my noob show here and state in advance that I know practically nothing of species or name of prehistoric sharks...but chap mei makes a cool great white in their Animal Planet line that could bode well for some sort of Megalodon-type shark (as shown in this picture):

just a thought, but then again..if you're in museum-level quality; this may not be so applicable.

**For reference: the divers shown are 2.25" tall and can be seen in product photos here


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SBell

Quote from: Sabrefox on April 28, 2014, 09:49:01 PM
Gonna let my noob show here and state in advance that I know practically nothing of species or name of prehistoric sharks...but chap mei makes a cool great white in their Animal Planet line that could bode well for some sort of Megalodon-type shark (as shown in this picture):

just a thought, but then again..if you're in museum-level quality; this may not be so applicable.

**For reference: the divers shown are 2.25" tall and can be seen in product photos here

Keeping in mind that Megalodon lived long after the dinosaurs, and never met a single marine reptile monster. Whales, yes. In the Miocene.

And I'd forgotten about goblin sharks (although, again--there's an actual Scapanorhynchus in the Safari toob).

brandem

Yeah the tube would be a good scale for larger mosasaurs and plesiosaurs, but a good goblin shark model would fit in scale with some icthyosaurs,

And I forgot sand tigers, they were around in the cretaceous

SBell

Quote from: brandem on April 29, 2014, 02:16:42 AM
Yeah the tube would be a good scale for larger mosasaurs and plesiosaurs, but a good goblin shark model would fit in scale with some icthyosaurs,

And I forgot sand tigers, they were around in the cretaceous

The biggest problem is that there are no larger goblin shark figures. I have several (mostly Japanese, plus the PV one) and most of them are about 3" long, same as the Safari.

And unfortunately, sand tigers don't get made much. There's a good one in the Colorata box, and a hard to find Kaiyodo Capsule one, but that's generally it. Nurse sharks are even tougher to find.

brandem

yeah but if they were not hard to find it wouldn't be collecting, or something like that,
btw favorite nurse shark model here:

SBell

Quote from: brandem on April 29, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
yeah but if they were not hard to find it wouldn't be collecting, or something like that,
btw favorite nurse shark model here:


Except you can't get the Neko works ones anymore. Sort of--the site never seems to have them anymore, although they don't say they're discontinued, just out of stock for 6-8 weeks. All the time.

And I kick myself for not getting the nurse shark and smooth hound shark when I ordered many years back, but there's nothing I can do about it now.

brandem

yeah unfortunately, just though I'd throw it out there as one to look for


Hynerpeton

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[about Lystrosaurus] Astonishingly, their vast herds make up more than half of all life on Earth. Never again will a single species do so well.

Walking With Monsters: (Hynerpeton) To avoid injury the males demonstrate their strength  in a strange  push up contest.

postsaurischian

Quote from: SBell on April 29, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Quote from: brandem on April 29, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
yeah but if they were not hard to find it wouldn't be collecting, or something like that,
btw favorite nurse shark model here:


Except you can't get the Neko works ones anymore. Sort of--the site never seems to have them anymore, although they don't say they're discontinued, just out of stock for 6-8 weeks. All the time.

And I kick myself for not getting the nurse shark and smooth hound shark when I ordered many years back, but there's nothing I can do about it now.

The Nekoworks sharks are top class - among the best figures ever made!
I'm glad I got 15 of the series' 21 models :).

Quote from: predino on June 05, 2014, 05:24:42 AM
What about the new Megalodon?

Rubbish! ...... sorry :-[.
I highly recommend the Pegasus Hobbies Great White Shark.

Hynerpeton

Well you want prehistoric and a great white is kinda but i rather use Megalodon its cousin. But its your choice. :)
Walking With Monsers:
[about Lystrosaurus] Astonishingly, their vast herds make up more than half of all life on Earth. Never again will a single species do so well.

Walking With Monsters: (Hynerpeton) To avoid injury the males demonstrate their strength  in a strange  push up contest.

SBell

Quote from: predino on June 05, 2014, 05:24:42 AM
What about the new Megalodon?

It's not their best shark. They should have either made a very distinct prehistoric one like Hybodus or Cladoselache or Xenacanthus, or just made some other modern ones that could use a good Safari Ltd treatment like a Bramble shark or something weird like that.

To my eye, the Megalodon looks like a stocky great white. Which is probably more or less accurate, but not all that distinct as far as a figure in a non-scaled series goes.

CityRaptor

#17
Yes, that Megalodon is pretty pointless and clearly not their best model. Hybodus would have been sweet. It pretty much existed from the Late Permian and most of the Mesozoic ( The oldest fossils are 260, the youngest 74,8 Mio Years old ) making it usable for a lot marine dioramas. 
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

postsaurischian


In case someone is interested, the Neko Works Hybodus and Stethacanthus are available again at  Hobby Link Japan ^-^.

CityRaptor

Odd that the two prehistoric sharks are still available while all the others are out of stock. One would think that shark lovers would embrace those, too.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

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