Jurassic World discussion (spoilers)

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Of course, I felt awful about those poor innocent Apatosaurs, too. But, I have to say that I ultimately felt sorry for the Indominus, as well. It wasn't her fault the way she was made up and the secluded caged area she was held in for so long. For me, this is where her story parallels the Frankenstein monster's. I also felt sympathy for him as well. Not only because he was also made up from several different parts, but, it wasn't his fault that he was given a corrupt brain and didn't know how to deal with the outside world. He fought back mostly in fear.

It again all boils down to man playing God with an added big corporation greed aspect. And of course, we the consumer should be held responsible too, because we are never satisfied. We, now more than ever, always want more and are bored too easily with what we are given. This movie is a great example of art imitating life. We are constantly creating new technologies before we've completely understood how the ones they're replacing work or how to even resolve older issues. The pharmaceutical companies are continuously making new drugs before they know what long-term effects they will have. And so on... Art imitating life, big time! And it's not always pretty.

[Simon]

Reading the emotion in some of the previous comments is yet another confirmation to me that Messers. Spielberg, et al, made a pretty entertaining and engaging film - getting the audience to "buy into the characters" emotionally is critical to a movie's success at the box office.

Less than 24 hours before I go see it with the family in 3D IMAX.  I will give my thoughts afterwards...

[Arul]

Stumble, fall, hitted, running, but her cellphone is still in one piece and after that she still can make a call to the central control with her cellphone. What is claire cellphone ? Well maybe nokia..

[TJ_Terrorsaur]

Why are all the big dinos like Rexy and Indominus a she, and a few raptors are boys? Aren't they all supposed to be one gender?

As far as I know every dinosaur in the park are all female. I'm sure the wild ones are of both genders, but the ones in the park are all female.

[E.D.G.E. (PainterRex)]

Why are all the big dinos like Rexy and Indominus a she, and a few raptors are boys? Aren't they all supposed to be one gender?

As far as I know every dinosaur in the park are all female. I'm sure the wild ones are of both genders, but the ones in the park are all female.

They have stated that all of the animals in the park are of different genders. They said they no longer control the gender so that they can get the animals to mate and have offspring so they can put them in the petting zoo.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

I went to see JW again yesterday with my best friend. We were in costume, as Claire and Owen. Even though I had mixed feelings about the film the first time around, It looked a lot better to me the second time, probably just because I knew what to expect. I must admit though that Owen's line "They're dinosaurs wow enough" was delivered poorly; I'm not sure why the trailer version wasn't used. Anyways, it is worth it to see the movie a few times to catch all of the subtle references, and of course that ending. This was easily the best movie experience of my life.

[TJ_Terrorsaur]

Why are all the big dinos like Rexy and Indominus a she, and a few raptors are boys? Aren't they all supposed to be one gender?

As far as I know every dinosaur in the park are all female. I'm sure the wild ones are of both genders, but the ones in the park are all female.

They have stated that all of the animals in the park are of different genders. They said they no longer control the gender so that they can get the animals to mate and have offspring so they can put them in the petting zoo.

My bad,  must have missed it then. Maybe I'll catch it when I go see it again (and again, and again).

[alexeratops]

Why are all the big dinos like Rexy and Indominus a she, and a few raptors are boys? Aren't they all supposed to be one gender?

As far as I know every dinosaur in the park are all female. I'm sure the wild ones are of both genders, but the ones in the park are all female.

They have stated that all of the animals in the park are of different genders. They said they no longer control the gender so that they can get the animals to mate and have offspring so they can put them in the petting zoo.

Thanks!

[fabricious]

I watched it again yesterday with my colleagues from university. We had SO much fun, we were laughing all the time at the ridiculousness of the movie. And afterwards we spent half an hour in front of the cinema talking about all the many issues with anatomy, size etc. It was great.

[fabricious]

I'm not sure if it has been said before (didn't follow the whole thread so far), but did anyone notice the Stegoceratops being displayed on the computer screen in the lab, where they are looking at the Indominus (shortly before Blue eats that military guy)? Also, there are partly human spines in glass containers... I thought this was quite a bit over-the-top...

[Shadowknight1]

So, I'm curious.  I'm not 100% up to snuff on my paleo-knowledge, so can someone give me a rundown on the inaccuracies of the dinos?  Don't bother with the raptors, T. rex, or the holo-Dilo, I know those are messed up.

[alexeratops]

Well, the Triceratops doesn't have quills, which were probably on many ceretopsians.
The Mosasaur is nearly old Godzilla size, whereas he should be up to 60 feet long max. Also the Mosasaur doesn't have a tail fluke.
The Apatosaurus/Stegosaurus-es were a bit chunky, though not necessarily inaccurate. Any dinos I'm missing?

[E.D.G.E. (PainterRex)]

So, I'm curious.  I'm not 100% up to snuff on my paleo-knowledge, so can someone give me a rundown on the inaccuracies of the dinos?  Don't bother with the raptors, T. rex, or the holo-Dilo, I know those are messed up.

My Pleasure!

Apatosaurs: Necks are far too skinny, their skin is too saggy and elephant-like. The eyes look mammalian with whites and an iris. They are also a bit skrinkwrapped.

Mosasaurus (Not-a-dinosaur): Crocodillian scutes and appearance. Far too large and has a paddle-like tail fin (We now know it most likely had a fluke.

Triceratops: The feet are elephantine and were way different. The tail is too long. The skin is made to be elephant like. Most specimens of triceratops did not have triangular scutes around the frill and most of the time the eye horns pointed slightly forward.

Parasaurolophus: Not much wrong other than the skin and feet.

Pteranodon (not-a-dinosaur): WAY too skinny and skeletal, shrink-wrapped to the max. The heads are all right enough, at least they go the slight curve up on the beak right.

Dimorphodon (Not-A-Dinosaur): The head seems a little bit too big, but the animal did have a rather large head in life. Same things wrong as the Pteranodon.

Ankylosaurus: The armor is wrong. Last time i checked Ankylosaurus did not have spiny armor sticking out of the sides. The armor was more like large stones of bone embedded in the back in a somewhat connected pattern. The tail was incredibly stiff and could mostly only move from side-to-side, but very fast side-to-side.

Gallimimus: Should have had feathers, but not just a thin covering, but a large ostrich like coat since we now know that Ornithomimus had large wings like an ostrich. Their arms are pronated as usual.

Stegosaurus: The tails, although not quite dragging, are far too low to the ground and need to be parallel to the body and off the ground. The body is not suppose to be shaped in a parabola but more so the rib cage is curved and then having the tail stick out straight. The plates were way larger and changed sized depending on their position on the body. The spikes of the thagomizer stick out to the sides and pointed slightly backwards. The feet and skin are elephantine and wrong as well.

That should be it.

[Patrx]

Pretty thorough responses so far, but if I may, here are a few additions!

Apatosaurus: The front "feet" look like they have claws/nails. On real sauropods, only the innermost claw would be visible, and the portion of the foot touching the ground would have formed a sort of "half-moon" shape rather than a solid, circular pad.

Pterosaurs (both varieties): Missing the unique fur-like covering, ("pycnofibres") common to pterosaurs.

Galimimus: Missing shoulder girdle, the wings appear to stick out directly from the animals' necks. They also seem to have teeth, particularly visible in the movie's promotional material.

[pylraster]

Stumble, fall, hitted, running, but her cellphone is still in one piece and after that she still can make a call to the central control with her cellphone. What is claire cellphone ? Well maybe nokia..

You gotta wonder too, what her heels were made of. Thought she was gonna throw those stilletos away but nope. She runs away from Rexie while still wearing them.

[Sim]

Adding to the inaccuracies others pointed out, both the Pteranodon and Dimorphodon's heads are inaccurate.  Thankfully they're not as bad as the JP3 Pteranodon heads, those were so bad.

Pteranodon's beak is really long and curves upwards.  The Pteranodon in JW have a beak that's basically straight with no upward curve, looks like a bird's beak and isn't long enough.  Pteranodon actually have a very distinctive beak (and head)!

The Dimorphodon in JW have a snout that's too short and teeth that aren't like what's on real Dimorphodon skulls.  Compare the heads of a Dimorphodon skeleton and a JW Dimorphodon:


Oh okay, I'll do Pterandon too:

Well, the Triceratops doesn't have quills, which were probably on many ceretopsians.

The filaments you're thinking of are only known on Psittacosaurus.  There's nothing that suggests other ceratopsians had them, especially since evidence points towards Psittacosaurus not evolving into any of the other known ceratopsians.  So the Triceratops in Jurassic World not having filaments isn't an inaccuracy.

[amargasaurus cazaui]

Werent the security guards supposedly discussing how the pachycephalosaurs were always butting heads when in fact we now somewhat consider that a maybe type scenario? Last I read the idea of head butting pachys was no longer in vogue...

[brandem]

Stumble, fall, hitted, running, but her cellphone is still in one piece and after that she still can make a call to the central control with her cellphone. What is claire cellphone ? Well maybe nokia..

You gotta wonder too, what her heels were made of. Thought she was gonna throw those stilletos away but nope. She runs away from Rexie while still wearing them.

We've clocked the T-Rex at 32 miles per hour, in layman's terms, just under the speed of and unladen woman in heels.

[Takama]

Moved to Diffrent Thread

[Simon]

OK!  Saw the movie this afternoon in IMAX.  Here goes my first-take impressions, in no particular order:

1.  A Great Thrill Ride!
2.  Highly Enjoyable!
3.  Massively Ridiculous on so many levels! (I mean - Pteranodons and Dimophordons as crazed beefed up Vampire Bats from a Lugosi nightmare?  REALLY???)
4.  Not really related to the first 3 JP films! (All pretense of reality went out the window early!)
5.  Well-worth seeing!
6.  Wait - how are they gonna make a sequel after THAT?
7.  The whole dinosaur accuracy debate - what a tempest in a teapot!  These very, very VERY OBVIOUSLY - were NOT dinosaurs at all!
8.  A really well-made, over-the-top (several times over) MONSTER movie!
10. Hope they got their plagiarism insurance paid up!  Besides "borrowing" from JP I-II-III, I saw MASSIVE scene-stealing from Disney's "Dinosaur" and BBC's "WWD"!
11.  Definitely worth the price of admission!