David Silvas New Kickstarter: Articulated Dinosaur TOYS

[terrorchicken]

I usually like colorful dinosaurs but I dont like any of the 2 blue raptors in this series, the color makes them look too toy-like for some reason.

[DinoLord]

After much consideration I was able to finalize my choices. I forwent pledging the original trio (I didn't find the Atrociraptor and Tsaagan that appealing) for just the Velociraptor plus some the Linheraptor, Saurornitholestes langstoni, fan's choice Pyroraptor, and V. osmolskae. I found these to have the most appealing color schemes. I originally considered the Balaur and Zhenyuanlong as well but couldn't justify the cost given the relatively major proportion inaccuracies.

[Victoria's Cantina]

Well, I had a last minute change of heart. I'd decided on the Velociraptor and Fan's choice Zhenyuanlong, but after re-assessing the images, I'm still uncomfortable with the Zhen's proportions... there's just something slightly too cartoony about the head, and I don't really like the 'beaky' look of the snout. As I can only afford 2 at a stretch, I don't want to have any regrets once all is said and done, and I'd rather those two be quite distinct from each other, so I've replaced the Zhen now with Balaur, my original second choice, as it has the large wings, and also contrasts nicely with the orange velociraptor.

I just want to make sure, does Balaur definitely now share the same large wing pieces as Zhenyuanlong? I'm finding it hard to tell from the photos without a direct side by side comparison.

Balaur is such a great design. I truly love the coloration. When these come back next summer that's definitely one I'd like to get.

[Flaffy]

Now that BotM has plowed through most of my funds, lets welcome the amazing 2017 releases! Yay... 

[Flaffy]

New KS update- Buitreraptor revisions and production starts
Link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/creativebeast/beasts-of-the-mesozoic-raptor-series-action-figure/posts/1743619

[DinoLord]

I was very happy to see the Buitreraptor revision. Now we just have to wait and see if the factory can carry it (and the general production) out with good quality... 

[Killekor]

Good.

Predasaurskillekor

[Halichoeres]

There was a shoutout to Sim in the update; thanks for your initiative! Your thorough yet respectful input made the whole line better.

[Archinto]

The buitreraptor revision will look great! Makes me want a wetlands set now.... darnit.

[Sim]

There was a shoutout to Sim in the update; thanks for your initiative! Your thorough yet respectful input made the whole line better.

Thanks Tim!  I'm glad you and others are happy about what my input achieved.  There has actually been another adjustment made to the Buitreraptor head too.  I explained to David why I thought the Buitreraptor figure's lower jaw was too deep, he accepted it and made the lower jaw less deep.  I don't know why he didn't mention this adjustment in the Kickstarter update, maybe he forgot.  I did ask him if it would be okay if I mentioned this adjustment on this forum and he said it was okay.

David sent me some photos he took before he sent the BotM parts to China of the Buitreraptor's head that showed the adjustment to the lower jaw depth.  I think this adjustment really improves the figure.  The teeth needed fixing too though, so I'm glad David decided to adjust both.  I hadn't seen the photoshopped teeth adjustment images until this Kickstarter update.  The teeth definitely look better in the "After" images.  The adjustment to the Buitreraptor figure's lower jaw depth can be seen in the images in the top row of the before and after images below.  I included a photo of the painted Buitreraptor prototype with the original lower jaw at a similar angle for comparison.

 

[Killekor]

I've seen that many users says that the Zhenyuanlong isn't accurate, so:

A) the promotional photos, (how many people said in other threads), many times are not like the  real model, so, probably this model is accurate.

B) if the point A doesn't convince you, you can say at David this thing and he probably will improve (and correct) the model, no?

[Flaffy]

I've seen that many users says that the Zhenyuanlong isn't accurate, so:

A) the promotional photos, (how many people said in other threads), many times are not like the  real model, so, probably this model is accurate.

B) if the point A doesn't convince you, you can say at David this thing and he probably will improve (and correct) the model, no?

oh boy, here we go again.
Firstly, calm down with the bold option, excessive use is unnecessary.
Steps to determine if a figure is accurate or not:
1. Pull up an image of the fossil/reliable skeletal reference on google
2. Compare the proportions of the figure to the fossil/skeletal reference
3. Determine if it's accurate or not
I'll save you the trouble and tell you that it's not accurate. It's tibia is is half the length of the actual animal, it's massive secondary feathers are shrunken down on the figure, and the head despite the much appreciated revisions, is still too big and therefore inaccurate. 
Link to the accuracy thread: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=4882.0
In case you didn't know, David had already revised the zhenyuanlong before. The first and original figure was even worse in terms of accuracy.
And David also stated that he might revise a few figures for the possible second production.

[Killekor]

There's a possible second production? I didn't know that.

Thanks

Predasaurskillekor

[Sim]

I'm not sure if the Zhenyuanlong figure's head is still too big.  Its secondaries and legs do look too short though.  If a second production run happens, I think it would be good if the Zhenyuanlong's inaccuracies are corrected.

If a second production run does happen, I'd really like the Velociraptor's wings to be made larger to be consistent with it having quill knobs.  I've been considering what Velociraptor's wings might have been like, and I think the Velociraptor figure should have secondaries that are at least as big as Zhenyuanlong's (as shown by the fossil specimen, not the BotM figure).  As for the part of the Velociraptor figure's wing composed of the primaries - the length looks decent to me given the shorter legs of Velociraptor compared to Zhenyuanlong, I think it's the breadth that's really too short.  I think it would be good if the Velociraptor's primaries were changed the same way David changed the Balaur/Zhenyuanlong primaries - by changing their overall shape from narrow and pointed to wide and rounded.

[Dinoguy2]

I'm not sure if the Zhenyuanlong figure's head is still too big.  Its secondaries and legs do look too short though.  If a second production run happens, I think it would be good if the Zhenyuanlong's inaccuracies are corrected.

If a second production run does happen, I'd really like the Velociraptor's wings to be made larger to be consistent with it having quill knobs.  I've been considering what Velociraptor's wings might have been like, and I think the Velociraptor figure should have secondaries that are at least as big as Zhenyuanlong's (as shown by the fossil specimen, not the BotM figure).  As for the part of the Velociraptor figure's wing composed of the primaries - the length looks decent to me given the shorter legs of Velociraptor compared to Zhenyuanlong, I think it's the breadth that's really too short.  I think it would be good if the Velociraptor's primaries were changed the same way David changed the Balaur/Zhenyuanlong primaries - by changing their overall shape from narrow and pointed to wide and rounded.

I think it's still too big. In fact the comparison shots of new and old look like the skull is basically the same size, just with reduced fluffiness and a slimmer lower jaw. The length of the nostril- eye distance and approximate distance from snout tip to where the back margin of the skull would be looks unchanged.

[Sim]

In that comparison image of the new and old head, to me it looks like the new head has a smaller skull.  The distance between the nostril and eye seems to be a bit less, and both the lower and upper jaw look smaller overall.

[Killekor]

This will be a better photo:



I have do it with keynote.

Thanks.

Predasaurskillekor

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

looks smaller to me as well.

honestly if doesn't match Zhenyuanlong you could prob just label it a similar far less complete species.   

[Killekor]

I tell now that the had seems more accurate. Unfortunately, David didn't resculpted the legs, so he isn't completely accurate.

Thanks

Predasaurskillekor

[Dinoguy2]

In that comparison image of the new and old head, to me it looks like the new head has a smaller skull.  The distance between the nostril and eye seems to be a bit less, and both the lower and upper jaw look smaller overall.

Yeah, now that I'm looking at this on a larger screen the new one is noticeably smaller. But its still significantly too large compared to the size it should be.