Beasts of the Mesozoic Accuracy Check

[stargatedalek]

I for one don't mind Acheroraptor, I think the booby colours are generic enough to pass nicely. Same for most of the ones based on birds of prey since, and no offense to birds of prey here, most birds of prey have very generic patterns that could easily pass on game birds too. And that's (in terms solely of comparisons to modern analogues) what dromaeosaurs were, a cross between birds of prey and game birds.

[Appalachiosaurus]

I would agree with twentybelow if we were getting these things for free, but we are not. If i'm paying upwards of 30 bucks for a little toy to sit on my shelf and look pretty, it better damn well look pretty. We are the consumers, we are the ones paying him. We can complain if we want, because we have the power to cancel our pre-orders if our needs are not met.

[Mirroraptor]

Does anyone know that a bigger Zhenyuanlong sp.(probably not suni)specimen now in Shenyang Normal University?

[Sim]

Does anyone know that a bigger Zhenyuanlong sp.(probably not suni)specimen now in Shenyang Normal University?

I hadn't heard of this before.  Can you provide any more info about this?

[Killekor]

Sorry, but, any accuracy check of the Pyroraptor, Archaeoraptor and Linheraptor!? Will be fantastic do also an accuracy check of the Buitreraptor, Mononykus, Microraptor (please!?) And artic Troodon! Same thing for the Babies.

I'm not an expert of Dromaeosaurs, so i can't do It.

Killekor

[Flaffy]

Sorry, but, any accuracy check of the Pyroraptor, Archaeoraptor and Linheraptor!? Will be fantastic do also an accuracy check of the Buitreraptor, Mononykus, Microraptor (please!?) And artic Troodon! Same thing for the Babies.

I'm not an expert of Dromaeosaurs, so i can't do It.

Killekor

You don't have to be an expert, just pull up a skeletal reference from the internet and compare.
For the big 'raptors', check page 1.

[Dinoguy2]

Sorry, but, any accuracy check of the Pyroraptor, Archaeoraptor and Linheraptor!? Will be fantastic do also an accuracy check of the Buitreraptor, Mononykus, Microraptor (please!?) And artic Troodon! Same thing for the Babies.

I'm not an expert of Dromaeosaurs, so i can't do It.

Killekor

Pyroraptor and Acheroraptor are known from scraps of bone so it's not possible to do an accurate restoration of them. Any representation of those species has to be 100% made up based on possible relatives. Linheraptor is probably a synonym of Tsaagan. I might try those smaller critters though.

[Killekor]

Hi,
I've tried to do an accuracy check of the Linheraptor, and this are the results:




I think that Is accurate, probably more than the Tsaagan, i'm not an expert of accuracy checks, so, if someone note something that i didn't know, please, post It.

Vote:

Accuracy: 10
Color scheme: 10

Thanks

Killekor

[stargatedalek]

The skull is to thick vertically relative to the jaw, the sickle claw isn't long enough, and the body is to compact.

[Killekor]

the body is too compact.

Sorry, but, it's possibile that the body seems compact because there are many feathers? Or, it's possibile that this Linheraptor represents a Fat Linheraptor?

the sickle claw isn't long enough

Too me the Toe claws seem of the right size.

Killekor

[stargatedalek]

the body is too compact.

Sorry, but, it's possibile that the body seems compact because there are many feathers? Or, it's possibile that this Linheraptor represents a Fat Linheraptor?

Nope. Compare the pubis and shoulder on the skeletal versus the model.

the sickle claw isn't long enough

Too me the Toe claws seem of the right size.

Look at it relative to the length of toe bones.

[Killekor]

You're right, Sorry.

Killekor

[Sim]

The Linheraptor figure's skull looks accurate to me.  It isn't very easy to see in that small image that was posted, but in this larger image it can be seen the figure's head is tilted up a bit: https://www.facebook.com/113487525333128/photos/a.1154970781184792.1073741847.113487525333128/1555837664431433/?type=3&theater  So what might make the upper jaw look deeper is actually some of the right side of the upper jaw being visible.  The figure also has lips that cover some of the teeth.

As for the body being too compact, and the sickle claw not being long enough, I'm not seeing either of these.  Dinoguy2's photoshop comparison for the Tsaagan figure took into account the proportions of Linheraptor and didn't find either of these inaccuracies.  The position of the shoulder and pubis is the same in the Tsaagan and Linheraptor figures, and the Linheraptor figure's sickle claws are actually larger than the Tsaagan figure's.

[Killekor]

The Linheraptor figure's skull looks accurate to me.  It isn't very easy to see in that small image that was posted, but in this larger image it can be seen the figure's head is tilted up a bit: https://www.facebook.com/113487525333128/photos/a.1154970781184792.1073741847.113487525333128/1555837664431433/?type=3&theater  So what might make the upper jaw look deeper is actually some of the right side of the upper jaw being visible.  The figure also has lips that cover some of the teeth.

As for the body being too compact, and the sickle claw not being long enough, I'm not seeing either of these.  Dinoguy2's photoshop comparison for the Tsaagan figure took into account the proportions of Linheraptor and didn't find either of these inaccuracies.  The position of the shoulder and pubis is the same in the Tsaagan and Linheraptor figures, and the Linheraptor figure's sickle claws are actually larger than the Tsaagan figure's.

Thanks, Sim, for the very informative and clarify post. Now i don't know if keep my Zhenyuanlong in my Backerit preorder or replace It with the Linheraptor. It's the fantastic Zhenyuanlong color scheme that do to me indecided from replace It for the Linheraptor

Killekor

[stargatedalek]

Thanks for the additional photos, I think the skull and body was just the angle, but the claw is definitely to small. Linheraptor has an immense sickle claw, even ignoring the coating in life the claw itself is as large as the entire adjacent toes.

[Sim]

I've compared the proportions of the Linheraptor figure's sickle claw and adjacent toes to the Linheraptor skeletal posted in this thread as well as the Linheraptor fossil specimen, and the figure's sickle claw doesn't appear to be too small.

Linheraptor does have a very large sickle claw, so it seems appropriate the Linheraptor figure has the largest sickle claw part in this Beasts of the Mesozoic series, which it shares with the Saurornitholestes and Acheroraptor figures.

[Mirroraptor]

Does anyone know that a bigger Zhenyuanlong sp.(probably not suni)specimen now in Shenyang Normal University?

I hadn't heard of this before.  Can you provide any more info about this?

The only thing I know about this specimen is it has been called "Dromaeosaurus" for many years and regarded as Tianyuraptor's adult.I visited the specimen at MTE12,but lost all the photos.It is now in PMOL.

[Sim]

Mirroraptor, is this the specimen you're referring to?: http://dinoweb.ucoz.ru/_fr/2/0900402.jpeg

[Mirroraptor]

Mirroraptor, is this the specimen you're referring to?: http://dinoweb.ucoz.ru/_fr/2/0900402.jpeg

Yes.Thank you.

[Sim]

Mirroraptor, is this the specimen you're referring to?: http://dinoweb.ucoz.ru/_fr/2/0900402.jpeg

Yes.Thank you.

I'm glad I could find it!  I've seen this specimen referred to as an undescribed Tianyuraptor-like dromaeosaurid, so when you mentioned it has been regarded as Tianyuraptor's adult, I thought of this specimen.  I read it's reported to be 2.5 metres long.

This specimen seems similar to both Tianyuraptor and Zhenyuanlong, but it seems to look more like Tianyuraptor to me.  Is it being called an unnamed species of Zhenyuanlong now?  I'm guessing it's still undescribed?