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JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM

Started by dragon53, August 10, 2016, 06:41:36 PM

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Loon

#320
Here are some new photos taken at a licensing show in some godless foreign land. They just show off the old T.rex, Blue, and some "new" Raptors.














Also, the T.rex appears to no longer be named Rexy, but Roberta. Which is apparently a name that's been there since the beginning, shown by these storyboard sheets.


I wonder if this is a reference to Roberta Rex, star of 1963's "Children of the Damned?"


Reptilia

#321
Could the one in the last pics be the infamous "Indoraptor"? Or is it just the standard JP raptor design? Would be strange for them to show a new character so early, and all the rest seems just promo material from the last movie anyway.

Blade-of-the-Moon

i hate that old cg art soooooooo much...

Faelrin

Aside from the new renders of Blue all of those other raptor renders are old. Some of those were used for the Jurassic World Exposition. Some of these are their very old merchandise renders (I think the greenish one seen is of Charlie or Blue).

And I'm still going to call the T. rex Rexy. The other name just doesn't seem to fit such an iconic character. I really hope they don't call her that in the film. She's never had a name in any of the films.
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
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Reptilia

#324
Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on October 26, 2017, 03:13:56 AM
i hate that old cg art soooooooo much...

The promo material is much more cartoony than the actual movies' CG or animatronics, admittedly they don't make a good service to the franchise with this.

Shadowknight1

Blue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.  Then again...I know so little about this movie other than the title and that Malcolm's back, know nothing about the story.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Gwangi

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 27, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Blue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.  Then again...I know so little about this movie other than the title and that Malcolm's back, know nothing about the story.

Was she the last raptor? I wouldn't be surprised if there were wild raptors in the restricted zone.

Reptilia

#327
So after the accident in the previous film the park has been abandoned? Is that confirmed in the sequel's plot?

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Gwangi on October 27, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 27, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Blue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.  Then again...I know so little about this movie other than the title and that Malcolm's back, know nothing about the story.

Was she the last raptor? I wouldn't be surprised if there were wild raptors in the restricted zone.

This was highly speculated plot point, it wouldnt surprise if it were the case.  this go round it feels like Owen and Blue will be teaming up again as well.

Quote from: Reptilia on October 28, 2017, 12:13:25 AM

I think its closed to tourists, then the volcano goes to erupt and they have to relocate all the dinosaurs.
So after the accident in the previous film the park has been abandoned? Is that confirmed in the sequel's plot?

Reptilia

#329
According to Jurassic Collectables the name "Roberta" for the T-Rex was just a nick that the crew used in the making of the movie. The two raptors in the kitchen scene were nicknamed "Kim" and "Randy". But does the T-Rex was ever called "Rexy", either in the movies or the novels? I always assumed it was a moniker invented by fans.


Blade-of-the-Moon


Loon

Rexy is only ever mentioned twice in the original novel. It's the nickname Muldoon gives the tyrannosaurus.

Reptilia

#332
Didn't remember that.

Shadowknight1

Quote from: Gwangi on October 27, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 27, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Blue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.  Then again...I know so little about this movie other than the title and that Malcolm's back, know nothing about the story.

Was she the last raptor? I wouldn't be surprised if there were wild raptors in the restricted zone.
And if so, Blue would be an outsider to the pack and unlikely to be integrated.  The only way she could would be to kill whatever Alpha she came across, if my knowledge of pack animals is correct...which it might well not be.
I'm excited for REBOR's Acro!  Can't ya tell?

Faelrin

Would there have even been other raptors on the island other then the raptor squad in JW? Unless that one JP game is still canon (which JW seems to contradict in some areas), I thought by the end of the first film they were all dead?
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2024 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 28, 2017, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Gwangi on October 27, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 27, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Blue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.  Then again...I know so little about this movie other than the title and that Malcolm's back, know nothing about the story.

Was she the last raptor? I wouldn't be surprised if there were wild raptors in the restricted zone.
And if so, Blue would be an outsider to the pack and unlikely to be integrated.  The only way she could would be to kill whatever Alpha she came across, if my knowledge of pack animals is correct...which it might well not be.

We know nothing about how these genetically engineered animals behave.  The only thing we can surmise is that they have some sort of pack leader.  In JP it was female, in JP3 it was female, in JW it was Owen, a human and a male.  Then the Indominus.  I left out the Lost World because its explained in the novel, they no social hierarchy at all.


Quote from: Faelrin on October 28, 2017, 05:06:56 PM


Would there have even been other raptors on the island other then the raptor squad in JW? Unless that one JP game is still canon (which JW seems to contradict in some areas), I thought by the end of the first film they were all dead?

maybe.

- In the novel raptors could camouflage and there were a lot of them.
- in JP there three adult raptors caged but escaped then killed.  However Grant found an entire nest of hatched eggs that vanished into the forest.
- cut scene from TLW has Ludlow mention the destruction of Isla Nublar, both architectural and biological.  If not cut this would mean everything was destroyed?
- JW shows that everything wasn't destroyed just fenced off in a different part of the island.  The majority of the staff seems to have no idea what is back there. 

HD-man

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 27, 2017, 12:58:44 AMBlue lives?  I figured she was pretty much doomed.  Unless there's another enclosure somewhere, she was the last raptor on Nublar and pack hunters don't do so well alone.

Not necessarily (See the last 2 paragraphs: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/19/science/rabbits-beware-some-birds-of-prey-hunt-in-packs.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm ). Even obligatory pack hunters don't hunt in packs all the time (E.g. "In summer, when wolves hunt singly or in small groups, caching appears to be an important behavior": https://www.amazon.com/Wolves-Behavior-Conservation-David-Mech-ebook/dp/B00TV18E16 ).

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on October 28, 2017, 03:10:36 PMAnd if so, Blue would be an outsider to the pack and unlikely to be integrated.  The only way she could would be to kill whatever Alpha she came across, if my knowledge of pack animals is correct...

It isn't ( http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 ). To be fair, though, the JP series isn't very clear about what kind of social structure their raptors are supposed to have ( http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=4919.msg143924#msg143924 ).
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Gwangi

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on October 28, 2017, 05:25:05 AM
This was highly speculated plot point, it wouldnt surprise if it were the case.  this go round it feels like Owen and Blue will be teaming up again as well.

I keep thinking back at that early "Jurassic World" poster. There's a raptor, and a nest, and it looks like the restricted zone to me. Of course it doesn't talk much about the restricted zone in the movie.



QuoteAnd if so, Blue would be an outsider to the pack and unlikely to be integrated.  The only way she could would be to kill whatever Alpha she came across, if my knowledge of pack animals is correct...which it might well not be.

I wouldn't stress too much over raptor politics, especially in a science fiction movie.  ;)

Reptilia

#338
Never noticed before that in that poster the park is still under construction.

Loon

Some new behind-the-scenes photos have popped up. Showing off some sort of alvarezasaurid, and a baby Apatosaurus.

Alvarezasaurid (possibly mononykus?)



Apatosaurus

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