JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM

[Silvanusaurus]

In this 2nd one, they should start building up some hints that maybe Owen and Blue are more than just good friends; then their relationship will take centre stage in the 3rd film: 'Jurassic World 3: Eat Prey, Love'.

[Halichoeres]

In this 2nd one, they should start building up some hints that maybe Owen and Blue are more than just good friends; then their relationship will take centre stage in the 3rd film: 'Jurassic World 3: Eat Prey, Love'.

Grooooan 

[stargatedalek]

Better than where it's heading now. "Blackfish (*cringes*) with dinosaurs" sounds not only cheesy as all hell but very unilaterally depicted and promotes a perspective based on both a lack of knowledge and practicality regarding animals and conservation. I am trying not to get political here but it's hard, I've had negative personal experiences with groups like PETA and the kind of viewpoint that produces programs like Blackfish.

I'd much rather see Jurassic embrace its B movie side than attempt to become some sort of political commentary, especially after the, "disconcerting", perspective the subplots in Jurassic World that dealt with sexism and anti-intellectualism followed (and no I'm not talking about that woman dying on screen, I still take no issue with that besides her existence being poorly written).

[Derek.McManus]

I'd much rather see Jurassic embrace its B movie side than attempt to become some sort of political commentary, especially after the, "disconcerting", perspective the subplots in Jurassic World that dealt with sexism and anti-intellectualism



I agree with this idea...A movie with dinosaurs really does need a certain amount of the large scary creature runs amok element!

Also I'm wondering about the dinosaurs on site B, the other island? I think it said at the end of the movie it was to be left as a preserve, I wonder is this still the case in the movie universe? Could be potential for a story there poachers stealing dinosaurs or their dna perhaps or something to do with however is staffing the island.

[dragon53]

JURASSIC WORLD 2---Ted Levine (THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS) has joined the sequel cast in an undisclosed role.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I liked him in MONK . could be a great addition.

[Neosodon]

I didn't notice anything political about Jurassic world. The only message I really got from it was that animals are not toys or weapons and maybe they were trying to make a statement about genetic engineering too.

[Soopairik]

Oh boy. Jurassic World 2. It's fairly old news by now and it's not coming out until 2018, so I'm not quite sure why people are so excited.

[dragon53]

JURASSIC WORLD 2---NBCUniveral registered three new domain names: AllCreaturesHaveRights.com, AllCreaturesHaveRights.org and IslaNublarRescueMission.com. The new domain names reinforce earlier comments by JURASSIC WORLD writer/director Colin Trevorrow that the sequel would be about dinosaur abuse.

[stargatedalek]

I didn't notice anything political about Jurassic world. The only message I really got from it was that animals are not toys or weapons and maybe they were trying to make a statement about genetic engineering too.

It was political alright. "Archetypal smart characters smartness causes problems which leads to archetypal "get it done" character saving the day and the smart person ends up turning their back on their previous intellectualism". This general anti-intellectualism culture is having serious repercussions, just look at where everyone's least favorite toupee is currently residing. JW is just another sign of a sickness that's been working its way into pop-culture since the "drop a nerd on his hind-end" days, and in a time when it's ever so important to be moving on from such mindsets.

While simultaneously going through the "female character is having life problems but overcomes them by falling in love with male character and implying they want to start a family" shtick.

Some people have said that it was done to parallel Grant becoming more comfortable with children in the first film, but even if that was the intention it was originally done to subvert this trope. Subverting the subversion by applying it to a female character only repeats exactly what was originally being called out.



As for "JW2"; animal rights are an important topic for sure, but there is a lot more to animal rights than treating animals properly. A balance needs to be met where we can't just hold up in our homes and eat nothing but tofu products, it just wouldn't be sustainable. The entire human population can't be vegan because we can't produce enough vegan food substitutes for the entire human population to subsist on. Additionally, animal rights groups often target activities like culling and sport hunting, which are incredibly important practices for conservation! The MO of treating each animal as an individual does not work in a conservation setting, and would quickly lead to devastating overpopulation, decreased genetic diversity, and inevitably extinctions. Yes we humans are the ones who originally mucked up these populations, but that's all the more reason to take responsibility and keep them healthy, rather than abandon them as "animal rights" would have us do.

Why am I so confident that "JW2" will tackle animal rights from a one-sided perspective? Because there are no overpopulated colonies of Velociraptors that threaten fish stocks, no Apatosaurus herds that are causing irreparable damage to rainforest ecosystems and yet resist relocation, no impoverished populations that can't afford anything else but Dilophosaurus, and no sustainable Tyrannosaurus fisheries. Dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park universe only exist as captive animals, which makes them a perfect setting to stroke the egos of animal rights groups without displaying the whole picture.

[Simon]

It was political alright. "Archetypal smart characters smartness causes problems which leads to archetypal "get it done" character saving the day and the smart person ends up turning their back on their previous intellectualism". This general anti-intellectualism culture is having serious repercussions, just look at where everyone's least favorite toupee is currently residing. *SNIP*

PM Trudeau wears a toupee?  Wow. You coulda fooled me.  Well, as a Canadian I must assume you should know. (*BA-DUM-DUM*)

[Patrx]

Let's do please try to keep the content of this conversation as closely focused on the movie(s) in question as possible. 

[Takama]

DINOSAUR ABUSE EH???

. this is going to be hiliarious. I dare them to try and get me to care for somthing thats brainwashed an entire genration of kids and Adults into thinking Scaly raptors are the real deal

[stargatedalek]

It was political alright. "Archetypal smart characters smartness causes problems which leads to archetypal "get it done" character saving the day and the smart person ends up turning their back on their previous intellectualism". This general anti-intellectualism culture is having serious repercussions, just look at where everyone's least favorite toupee is currently residing. *SNIP*

PM Trudeau wears a toupee?  Wow. You coulda fooled me.  Well, as a Canadian I must assume you should know. (*BA-DUM-DUM*)

The (orange) man only won because of an antiquated system that doesn't account for disparages of social cultures within regions of a single nation. He represents an end of democratic formality and the normalization of politicians playing at peoples fear and bigotry to win votes, so pardon my genuine fear that my vote based on rationalization and months of study into candidates and party structure might become even more worthless than it already is in a three party system.

I was trying to make a humorous example of how anti-intellectualism is clearly visible in our modern cultural environment. It's far from a recent thing, but it's been becoming more and more prevalent and it started returning to generality around when "troll-culture" started becoming so big. Sites like 4Chan exist for people to literally flaunt their offensive comments and thrive in each others avoidance of self education, and now movies have started bringing it back into their subplots yet again. Anti-intellectualism is a real threat to social advancement and equality.

[Neosodon]

I didn't notice anything political about Jurassic world. The only message I really got from it was that animals are not toys or weapons and maybe they were trying to make a statement about genetic engineering too.

It was political alright. "Archetypal smart characters smartness causes problems which leads to archetypal "get it done" character saving the day and the smart person ends up turning their back on their previous intellectualism". This general anti-intellectualism culture is having serious repercussions, just look at where everyone's least favorite toupee is currently residing. JW is just another sign of a sickness that's been working its way into pop-culture since the "drop a nerd on his hind-end" days, and in a time when it's ever so important to be moving on from such mindsets.

While simultaneously going through the "female character is having life problems but overcomes them by falling in love with male character and implying they want to start a family" shtick.

Some people have said that it was done to parallel Grant becoming more comfortable with children in the first film, but even if that was the intention it was originally done to subvert this trope. Subverting the subversion by applying it to a female character only repeats exactly what was originally being called out.



As for "JW2"; animal rights are an important topic for sure, but there is a lot more to animal rights than treating animals properly. A balance needs to be met where we can't just hold up in our homes and eat nothing but tofu products, it just wouldn't be sustainable. The entire human population can't be vegan because we can't produce enough vegan food substitutes for the entire human population to subsist on. Additionally, animal rights groups often target activities like culling and sport hunting, which are incredibly important practices for conservation! The MO of treating each animal as an individual does not work in a conservation setting, and would quickly lead to devastating overpopulation, decreased genetic diversity, and inevitably extinctions. Yes we humans are the ones who originally mucked up these populations, but that's all the more reason to take responsibility and keep them healthy, rather than abandon them as "animal rights" would have us do.

Why am I so confident that "JW2" will tackle animal rights from a one-sided perspective? Because there are no overpopulated colonies of Velociraptors that threaten fish stocks, no Apatosaurus herds that are causing irreparable damage to rainforest ecosystems and yet resist relocation, no impoverished populations that can't afford anything else but Dilophosaurus, and no sustainable Tyrannosaurus fisheries. Dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park universe only exist as captive animals, which makes them a perfect setting to stroke the egos of animal rights groups without displaying the whole picture.

I have a hard time imagining them making people feel sympathetic for a bunch of animals running around ripping people's guts out. It seems like it should be the other way around, human abuse by animals.

[Pachyrhinosaurus]

Those url's give me the impression of dinosaur conservation. Perhaps they'll go in the direction of wild dinosaurs that need to be saved from whoever wants to destroy them (similar to TLW). I haven't read anything Trevorrow said as far as dinosaur abuse, so that might be evidence of a more animal rights/blackfish plot depending on what he said.

I'm just hoping for there to be wild dinosaurs and no character dinosaurs. It was fine with the rex and okay with the raptor squad, but the dinosaurs being nothing more than wild animals is a big part of the original two films that I think worked better than giving them what looked like human-like emotions. The same thing for the trained raptors; it was tolerable but I prefer how the raptors were handled in the first two films (gradual buildup until their reveal 3/4 of the way into the movie when things have already gone far down the tube). Just my two cents on it.

[dragon53]

JURASSIC WORLD 2---producer Frank Marshall posted that production on the sequel has begun.

[suspsy]

I'm not encouraged by the fact that he's got two outdated CollectA figures on display. Now, if it were the Feathered T. rex, the Therizinosaurus, and the Beishanlong...

[CityRaptor]

You notice the CollectAs but no the even more outdated Tripod Rex and the poster for the movie from 1960?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Dinosaurus! wasn't bad really..that could be some great inspiration.