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Jurassic Park 4 [Jurassic World] (no spoilers)

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darylj

I cant believe the hate this film is receiving...
its a sequal to jurassic park!!! that for one makes it worth seeing.

of course the original film will never be beaten it was a never before seen master piece based on an incredible book, that most of saw as youngsters. it will forever be imprinted on us as one of the most awe inspiring experiences of our lives.
the second film was good... but had massive boots to fill, and the third was... well... quite embarrassing.

this new film looks amazing.
its taking a new angle... while staying true to the original concept and idea.
I mean, for the people that are hating... what would you prefer?? another group of people, go back to the islands... and the dinosaurs have evolved to have feathers... theres chasing, and screaming... but they survive...? that would be an awful film.

Jurassic world will have action (as jp1 did), it will have cheesey lines(as jp1 did), it will have awesome looking dinosaurs that act like real animals, whilst carrying on the looks and themes of the previous films.
the d-rex, in my opinion is a great shout at the youth (and adults) of today that get bored of things very quickly, always wanting that new fix, that new craze. dinosaurs become the norm, and the need to please the public pushes the scientists to push the boundaries and (in the vein of the first film) become god... create a new dinosaur. this, in my opinion is a phenomenal concept that screams jurassic park!

the raptor motorbike scene is brilliant. i honestly don't understand peoples issues with it.
lions are dangerous... but as most people will have seen, people walk with, tickler, hug and play with lions. same with crocodiles. bears. hell... what animals cant be tamed to a degree. so why is it hard to believe that these, man made raptors cant be... tamed enough to not see the trainer as a threat? to see a man as one of the pack.
I don't think he was talking to them? they were just running together... hell, they could have been fleeing something. that's the clever thing with trailers, they can make you think one thing, but then the film can show you another.

oh, and if the d-rex can camouflage itself... its going to be terrifying.

oh.. and why would dinosaurs drink from a river that smells of people???
can anyone honestly tell me an animal that wouldnt drink form a river cos there were people in it?
if you go to a zoo... do animals avoid people??? no.. they get used to them.

come one people... don't hate on this film. don't not go see it - don't say, il wait for the dvd.
make sure we all see this film, in imax, in 3d, whatever. support it, make it a success..... then we'll get a jurassic park 5 :)

and hell, think of the toys, action figures etc.

HOW IS ANYONE NOT EXCITED!!!


Arul

@darylj whos the person (in this forum) which hate this ? We love it !  ^-^ we even cant wait until june 2015...

sauroid

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Foxilized

#1203
Quote from: darylj on November 26, 2014, 10:37:51 AM
I cant believe the hate this film is receiving...

Really?
Do you really don't understand the why, brother?

The criticism based on the fact that the trilogy, until now, besides all the good action (dinosaurs eating people, screams, choreographic chases, roarings...) they also had a EDUCATIVE side on the current paleontologic theories, which helped people to be educated on new ideas in a way more effective way than documentaries.
Yes, the movies had that vanguardist side, and yet still they also managed to keep conservative on many other aesthethic elements. They had the perfect mix for the mainstream to accept new information without being too much shocked on their fragile conservative minds.

This movie... seems it's gonna be ALL about being conservative and please your 1990s mental ideas of dinosaurs... And chooses to completely ignore any educative side. That way they assure the movie won't be criticized by the mainstream.
BIG MISTAKE which will make impossible for this movie to be truly good, if you ask.

They can always explain the InGen animals are NOT true dinosaurs but artificial creatures, genetically manipulated into what the mainstream audience spect to see (InGen deleted the feathers on the theropods, the spines on the sauropods and ceratopsians, etc etc...).
They can always explain THAT on the dialogues, somewhere. I really hope they do. It's something Crichton indeed did in his first novella to justifiy the lack of feathers on his animals. It perfectly works for this movie too... but they need to make that explanation explicit, if they care a bit for dinonerds like us (who are actually the ultimate fans of the franchise)
But I am unsure they care for us at all... I suspect they only care for the massive "don't-give-a-damn" audience, who doesn't need explanations. We dino-nerds, as much "JP" faithful fans as we are, we are a minority and therefore, we don't count.

Hence the hate.

If you still don't get it it's cause you already know this in the deep of your heart, brother, but don't wanna hear.

Said all that, I do love the fact this movie exists by many of the reasons you pointed, and for many more reasons which ain't rational at all. I love the mosasaur jumping. I love the motorcycle & raptors bit. I love the redhair woman. I love the idea of new toys and figures.
Yet... can anybody please tell me... where's John Williams?

And for the record, JP3 was awesome, flawled and all.  ;) If you consider JP3 to be shameful, now it's me who don't understand what are you finding so exciting on this new one.

Manatee

#1204
Quote from: Foxilized on November 26, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: darylj on November 26, 2014, 10:37:51 AM
I cant believe the hate this film is receiving...

They can always explain the InGen animals are NOT true dinosaurs but artificial creatures, genetically manipulated into what the mainstream audience spect to see (InGen deleted the feathers on the theropods, the spines on the sauropods and ceratopsians, etc etc...).
They can always explain THAT on the dialogues, somewhere. I really hope they do. It's something Crichton indeed did in his first novella to justifiy the lack of feathers on his animals. It perfectly works for this movie too... but they need to make that explanation explicit, if they care a bit for dinonerds like us (who are actually the ultimate fans of the franchise)
But I am unsure they care for us at all... I suspect they only care for the massive "don't-give-a-damn" audience, who doesn't need explanations. We dino-nerds, as much "JP" faithful fans as we are, we are a minority and therefore, we don't count.

This will be the second time I'm saying this in the past day, but hear, hear! They better explain...Henry Wu and his genetic escapades are the perfect loophole. Don't get me wrong, I'm angry that they haven't done anything to improve their prehistoric animals' accuracy. The D. rex seems on track to be an undersized kaiju. The general public will forever think mosasaurs are about three hundred feet long. But the movie will still be awesome.
I have two major expectations, now that I know of some of the inaccuracies:
1. Suchomimus.
2. The mosasaur having a tail fin. Seriously, tail fins can look really superb if done correctly!

Everything_Dinosaur

 The trailer looks very polished when we compared it to the original trailer for Jurassic Park, we are excited and can't wait.  There has been 22 years or so between the first film in this franchise and the fourth instalment, and cinematography and CGI rendering has moved on so much over this period.  We had a vote on the most iconic scene in the Jurassic Park films to date and the winner was that scene in JP1 when the Brachiosaurus is revealed and cinema goers see for the first time a giant dinosaur.

We hope the film lives up to its hyperbole, hope it has another iconic scene or two within it, perhaps when D. rex is revealed in full for the first time.  Sue in the office has already started "the Chris Pratt Appreciation Society."

Our thoughts for what they are worth.

Arul

Replied more than 1200 times but why this thread not include in top topics ? Sorry just intermezzo  :P

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Quote from: Everything_Dinosaur on November 26, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
The trailer looks very polished when we compared it to the original trailer for Jurassic Park, we are excited and can't wait.  There has been 22 years or so between the first film in this franchise and the fourth instalment, and cinematography and CGI rendering has moved on so much over this period.  We had a vote on the most iconic scene in the Jurassic Park films to date and the winner was that scene in JP1 when the Brachiosaurus is revealed and cinema goers see for the first time a giant dinosaur.

We hope the film lives up to its hyperbole, hope it has another iconic scene or two within it, perhaps when D. rex is revealed in full for the first time.  Sue in the office has already started "the Chris Pratt Appreciation Society."

Our thoughts for what they are worth.
I am always particularly amazed at the perceptions and ideas people have regarding the various scenes from that first movie in the franchise. For me, in my own perceptions, the scene with the rearing brachiosaurus spelled out clearly and definitely in a way nothing else could, just how poorly the science and research, were applied after all the hype the movie was given. Horner chose to utilize Brachiosaurus for the scene, perhaps the one sauropod species that has least need to rear up, aside from being the least physically suited, to the point of being anatomically impossible for such a posture. For me it was a huge and solid fail, and will always be, particularly for this reason. The acting, the dialogue and the planning for the scene were all perfection. Had Horner just paid a bit more attention to the idea that sauropods that were considered as candiates for rearing were generally those with sledlike structures on their tail verts...i.e Diplodocoids, and not short tailed, highly adatped tree browsers, the scene might have taken on a much more striking tone. This proved to be the opening shot fired in an entire fail riddled with attempts to reinforce warm blooded stratgies for all dinosaurs. The only shot for me in the movie that rivaled the sheer lack of knowledge used in the Brachiosaur scene , was the sneezing scene....ugh. Just not a huge fan of the entire thing myself.If only they had utilized a serious paleontologist for the movies....
Authors with varying competence have suggested dinosaurs disappeared because of meteorites...God's will, raids by little green hunters in flying saucers, lack of standing room in Noah's Ark, and palaeoweltschmerz—Glenn Jepsen


Doug Watson

#1208
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum. I am older than probably the majority of the members here so my first dino toys were the Marx series and the first dinosaurs I saw on film were probably in the original King Kong. I was already a dino fanatic at that point because of the Sunday trips my father took me on to the National Museum of Natural Science. Since those early days I have sought out and watched every cinematic crappy dinosaur I could find just to see a living breathing dinosaur. When JP came out that was the first time I could say I was seeing an actual animal. Until JP came along the best we had were the very inaccurate dinosaurs by Ray Harryhausen which were brought to life with choppy stop motion animation with bad blue screen integration with everything from cavemen to cowboys and I loved it because it was entertainment and it continued to fuel my love of dinosaurs. For those of you who weren't born yet or were too young before JP came out dinosaurs were still popular especially amongst young boys but JP turned dinosaurs into rock stars beyond anything that I had seen in the past. I was working at the museum at that time and museums with dinosaur collections experienced a huge explosion in attendance and many fossil galleries underwent complete renovations and expansions because of it. Did you know that some museums try to place their dinosaur halls in the heart of the museum so visitors will be forced to pass the less popular galleries in the hopes they may stop and take a look on the way out? Members on this forum have said that they got hooked on dinosaurs because of JP and I would guess there are some 20 something year old budding palaeontologists who got their spark from watching the JP movies. Our toy hobby owes a big thanks to the JP films and their popularity. These films should be seen and enjoyed as entertainment only and if they inspire future scientists that's a bonus. Heck when the first film came out two of our museum palaeontologists were asked to critique it on local TV station and they were able to put aside the inaccuracies and enjoy it for what it was. They probably said a quiet thank you for helping their job security. If you want to be educated since JP came out there have been numerous TV series dedicated to dinosaurs and evolution using CG dinosaurs by the way that we wouldn't have if it wasn't for the break throughs that were made with that technique in the JP films. When JP was first conceived it was planned to use a blend of stop motion animation and practical effects. Because Spielberg was convinced by a simple CG animation test for a T rex we now have the CG documentary dinosaurs you now see on WWD etc.
Dinosaurs have never been more popular and you should all thank the producers of the JP series for that.
Anyway that's enough from me I will be there when JW comes out and I will add it to my DVD collection when that comes out and I can only hope we get another two at least.

Manatee

Quote from: ARUL on November 26, 2014, 12:35:12 PM
Replied more than 1200 times but why this thread not include in top topics ? Sorry just intermezzo  :P
It appears to be about views, not replies.

tyrantqueen

QuoteWe had a vote on the most iconic scene in the Jurassic Park films to date and the winner was that scene in JP1 when the Brachiosaurus is revealed and cinema goers see for the first time a giant dinosaur.
I love that scene too. Feels like a dream come true for anyone, seeing a real dinosaur alive. And the music is just epic.

Dinomike

Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum. I am older than probably the majority of the members here so my first dino toys were the Marx series and the first dinosaurs I saw on film were probably in the original King Kong. I was already a dino fanatic at that point because of the Sunday trips my father took me on to the National Museum of Natural Science. Since those early days I have sought out and watched every cinematic crappy dinosaur I could find just to see a living breathing dinosaur. When JP came out that was the first time I could say I was seeing an actual animal. Until JP came along the best we had were the very inaccurate dinosaurs by Ray Harryhausen which were brought to life with choppy stop motion animation with bad blue screen integration with everything from cavemen to cowboys and I loved it because it was entertainment and it continued to fuel my love of dinosaurs. For those of you who weren't born yet or were too young before JP came out dinosaurs were still popular especially amongst young boys but JP turned dinosaurs into rock stars beyond anything that I had seen in the past. I was working at the museum at that time and museums with dinosaur collections experienced a huge explosion in attendance and many fossil galleries underwent complete renovations and expansions because of it. Did you know that some museums try to place their dinosaur halls in the heart of the museum so visitors will be forced to pass the less popular galleries in the hopes they may stop and take a look on the way out? Members on this forum have said that they got hooked on dinosaurs because of JP and I would guess there are some 20 something year old budding palaeontologists who got their spark from watching the JP movies. Our toy hobby owes a big thanks to the JP films and their popularity. These films should be seen and enjoyed as entertainment only and if they inspire future scientists that's a bonus. Heck when the first film came out two of our museum palaeontologists were asked to critique it on local TV station and they were able to put aside the inaccuracies and enjoy it for what it was. They probably said a quiet thank you for helping their job security. If you want to be educated since JP came out there have been numerous TV series dedicated to dinosaurs and evolution using CG dinosaurs by the way that we wouldn't have if it wasn't for the break throughs that were made with that technique in the JP films. When JP was first conceived it was planned to use a blend of stop motion animation and practical effects. Because Spielberg was convinced by a simple CG animation test for a T rex we now have the CG documentary dinosaurs you now see on WWD etc.
Dinosaurs have never been more popular and you should all thank the producers of the JP series for that.
Anyway that's enough from me I will be there when JW comes out and I will add it to my DVD collection when that comes out and I can only hope we get another two at least.

Amen! I think you have a point here. I had been fascinated by dinosaurs before JP but it was JP that really made me love them. I even did a short internship at a museum of paleontology in my native country ;) I remember how the famous JP interpretation of dilophosaurus puzzled me to no end as I had l learned from the few books I owned then that dilophosaurus should have been bigger.  But we didn't have the Internet back then so checking facts was hard. Oh, those were the times!
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Saurian

Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum. I am older than probably the majority of the members here so my first dino toys were the Marx series and the first dinosaurs I saw on film were probably in the original King Kong. I was already a dino fanatic at that point because of the Sunday trips my father took me on to the National Museum of Natural Science. Since those early days I have sought out and watched every cinematic crappy dinosaur I could find just to see a living breathing dinosaur. When JP came out that was the first time I could say I was seeing an actual animal. Until JP came along the best we had were the very inaccurate dinosaurs by Ray Harryhausen which were brought to life with choppy stop motion animation with bad blue screen integration with everything from cavemen to cowboys and I loved it because it was entertainment and it continued to fuel my love of dinosaurs. For those of you who weren't born yet or were too young before JP came out dinosaurs were still popular especially amongst young boys but JP turned dinosaurs into rock stars beyond anything that I had seen in the past. I was working at the museum at that time and museums with dinosaur collections experienced a huge explosion in attendance and many fossil galleries underwent complete renovations and expansions because of it. Did you know that some museums try to place their dinosaur halls in the heart of the museum so visitors will be forced to pass the less popular galleries in the hopes they may stop and take a look on the way out? Members on this forum have said that they got hooked on dinosaurs because of JP and I would guess there are some 20 something year old budding palaeontologists who got their spark from watching the JP movies. Our toy hobby owes a big thanks to the JP films and their popularity. These films should be seen and enjoyed as entertainment only and if they inspire future scientists that's a bonus. Heck when the first film came out two of our museum palaeontologists were asked to critique it on local TV station and they were able to put aside the inaccuracies and enjoy it for what it was. They probably said a quiet thank you for helping their job security. If you want to be educated since JP came out there have been numerous TV series dedicated to dinosaurs and evolution using CG dinosaurs by the way that we wouldn't have if it wasn't for the break throughs that were made with that technique in the JP films. When JP was first conceived it was planned to use a blend of stop motion animation and practical effects. Because Spielberg was convinced by a simple CG animation test for a T rex we now have the CG documentary dinosaurs you now see on WWD etc.
Dinosaurs have never been more popular and you should all thank the producers of the JP series for that.
Anyway that's enough from me I will be there when JW comes out and I will add it to my DVD collection when that comes out and I can only hope we get another two at least.

we love JP, but not JW hybrids, that destroy the  idea of the park for me
Soory,my English is poor


Saurian

#1213
Quote from: Dinomike on November 26, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum. I am older than probably the majority of the members here so my first dino toys were the Marx series and the first dinosaurs I saw on film were probably in the original King Kong. I was already a dino fanatic at that point because of the Sunday trips my father took me on to the National Museum of Natural Science. Since those early days I have sought out and watched every cinematic crappy dinosaur I could find just to see a living breathing dinosaur. When JP came out that was the first time I could say I was seeing an actual animal. Until JP came along the best we had were the very inaccurate dinosaurs by Ray Harryhausen which were brought to life with choppy stop motion animation with bad blue screen integration with everything from cavemen to cowboys and I loved it because it was entertainment and it continued to fuel my love of dinosaurs. For those of you who weren't born yet or were too young before JP came out dinosaurs were still popular especially amongst young boys but JP turned dinosaurs into rock stars beyond anything that I had seen in the past. I was working at the museum at that time and museums with dinosaur collections experienced a huge explosion in attendance and many fossil galleries underwent complete renovations and expansions because of it. Did you know that some museums try to place their dinosaur halls in the heart of the museum so visitors will be forced to pass the less popular galleries in the hopes they may stop and take a look on the way out? Members on this forum have said that they got hooked on dinosaurs because of JP and I would guess there are some 20 something year old budding palaeontologists who got their spark from watching the JP movies. Our toy hobby owes a big thanks to the JP films and their popularity. These films should be seen and enjoyed as entertainment only and if they inspire future scientists that's a bonus. Heck when the first film came out two of our museum palaeontologists were asked to critique it on local TV station and they were able to put aside the inaccuracies and enjoy it for what it was. They probably said a quiet thank you for helping their job security. If you want to be educated since JP came out there have been numerous TV series dedicated to dinosaurs and evolution using CG dinosaurs by the way that we wouldn't have if it wasn't for the break throughs that were made with that technique in the JP films. When JP was first conceived it was planned to use a blend of stop motion animation and practical effects. Because Spielberg was convinced by a simple CG animation test for a T rex we now have the CG documentary dinosaurs you now see on WWD etc.
Dinosaurs have never been more popular and you should all thank the producers of the JP series for that.
Anyway that's enough from me I will be there when JW comes out and I will add it to my DVD collection when that comes out and I can only hope we get another two at least.

Amen! I think you have a point here. I had been fascinated by dinosaurs before JP but it was JP that really made me love them. I even did a short internship at a museum of paleontology in my native country ;) I remember how the famous JP interpretation of dilophosaurus puzzled me to no end as I had l learned from the few books I owned then that dilophosaurus should have been bigger.  But we didn't have the Internet back then so checking facts was hard. Oh, those were the times!

Dilofosaurus JP was young, so he was small in TLW dilo 6 meters, is shown on the monitor in a van ;)
Soory,my English is poor

Foxilized

#1214
Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum.

Maybe cause you don't want to understand.

I'll try to, anyway.

You say we must thank these people for making dinosaurs popular.
Well, what this people is making popular is wrong ideas about dinosaurs.
What is to be thanked?

Nothing wrong with that as far as fictional movies goes. I love Godzilla and kaiju stuff, movies that are made just for fun. But this is "Jurassic Park", a franchise we should actually THANK for making Reinassance ideas about dinosaurs popular. Besides being fun, they also introduced to the mass public new scientific and evolutionary ideas they would have never known otherwise. Now this next movie ignores that legacy and instead focuses only on 1990s aesthethics which were kinda conservative already then, and now are totally obsolete.

Excuse sir, what should we thank these people for, again?

I am not spoiling the movie to myself. I am gonna enjoy it with all its failures and lacks. But this movie is not made for geeks. It's made for silly people. Which is nice, I am an idiot myself so I know I am gonna love it anyway.

But the truth is the truth. No matter how hard you try to ignore it: they don't care about us. So there's nothing to thank them for. In fact, there's a lot to protest about. As many jpnerds and even proffesional paleontologists are doing since they knew the "no feathers" choice.

You know what I don't understand, my friend?
The fact that this truth is a sort of taboo... even in THIS forum.
Now, THAT I'll never understand.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Saurian on November 26, 2014, 05:08:43 PM
Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum. I am older than probably the majority of the members here so my first dino toys were the Marx series and the first dinosaurs I saw on film were probably in the original King Kong. I was already a dino fanatic at that point because of the Sunday trips my father took me on to the National Museum of Natural Science. Since those early days I have sought out and watched every cinematic crappy dinosaur I could find just to see a living breathing dinosaur. When JP came out that was the first time I could say I was seeing an actual animal. Until JP came along the best we had were the very inaccurate dinosaurs by Ray Harryhausen which were brought to life with choppy stop motion animation with bad blue screen integration with everything from cavemen to cowboys and I loved it because it was entertainment and it continued to fuel my love of dinosaurs. For those of you who weren't born yet or were too young before JP came out dinosaurs were still popular especially amongst young boys but JP turned dinosaurs into rock stars beyond anything that I had seen in the past. I was working at the museum at that time and museums with dinosaur collections experienced a huge explosion in attendance and many fossil galleries underwent complete renovations and expansions because of it. Did you know that some museums try to place their dinosaur halls in the heart of the museum so visitors will be forced to pass the less popular galleries in the hopes they may stop and take a look on the way out? Members on this forum have said that they got hooked on dinosaurs because of JP and I would guess there are some 20 something year old budding palaeontologists who got their spark from watching the JP movies. Our toy hobby owes a big thanks to the JP films and their popularity. These films should be seen and enjoyed as entertainment only and if they inspire future scientists that's a bonus. Heck when the first film came out two of our museum palaeontologists were asked to critique it on local TV station and they were able to put aside the inaccuracies and enjoy it for what it was. They probably said a quiet thank you for helping their job security. If you want to be educated since JP came out there have been numerous TV series dedicated to dinosaurs and evolution using CG dinosaurs by the way that we wouldn't have if it wasn't for the break throughs that were made with that technique in the JP films. When JP was first conceived it was planned to use a blend of stop motion animation and practical effects. Because Spielberg was convinced by a simple CG animation test for a T rex we now have the CG documentary dinosaurs you now see on WWD etc.
Dinosaurs have never been more popular and you should all thank the producers of the JP series for that.
Anyway that's enough from me I will be there when JW comes out and I will add it to my DVD collection when that comes out and I can only hope we get another two at least.

we love JP, but not JW hybrids, that destroy the  idea of the park for me

Why would it? Consider in a world as jaded as today where everyone wants to know "what's new?" how do you go about giving it to people who have seen all the real dinosaurs in a theme park that been open for years? If you have no more dna to work with you create something new out of what you have to bring in the visitors. You do what Ian always cautioned against doing..play God and create your own creatures. Of course in doing so you have nothing to base it's behavior or capabilities on..it's chaos theory incarnate. When it goes wrong, and it will, something will have to remove it..my bets are for a T-Rex or a huge mosasaur.

When you go back to the novel you can see where Wu told Hammond, these aren't REAL dinosaurs. Just facsimiles we created based on what we think they should look like. Wu wanted to alter their behavior further, make them more docile, disease resistant, ect..all genetic tinkering, the essence of Jurassic Park.

Dr. Henry Wu is back in this film looking to make a name for himself or prove something..how better than to create your own dinosaur species ?

If you recall during Dr. Grant's lecture in JP3 he stated " What Ingen did was create genetically engineered theme park monsters, nothing more. "  Now later on when flying over the island, you see his face light up " I'd forgotten.." . 

This leads back to Doug's statement which I agree with. These are all theoretical dinosaurs, but they are ALIVE and in front of us ( same feeling I had in 93' sitting in that dark theater.) We've become a bit jaded looking for accuracy everywhere I think. Try to keep the wonder and merriment in it. Keep that in mind. 

Foxilized

#1216
Probably because the more incredible, the less powerfull JP is.

Crichton spent thousands of pages trying the dinosaurs were credible.

Now compare that to the idea of a "mutant" dinosaur-terminator with no explanation whatsoever, beyond that "it's genetics, we can do anything".

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Foxilized on November 26, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum.

Maybe cause you don't want to understand.

I'll try to, anyway.

You say we must thank these people for making dinosaurs popular.
Well, what this people is making popular is wrong ideas about dinosaurs.
What is to be thanked?



I'd say one thing here. Just about everyone who has visited our dinosaur park here has mentioned seeing Jurassic Park.  It did wonders for getting people into dinosaurs. Took my interest to a whole new level when I found out about it.  Yes it showcases a lot of incorrect information however that still gets them into dinosaur exhibits and museums where they can learn the truth and even more. I use our JP Raptor replica as a jumping off point when I talk about feathers, wrist orientation, ect..and it works because they recognize the film animal and can imagine what I'm talking about added to it.  For getting people to try and learn more about our prehistoric past , intentional or not, for that I thank them.

Blade-of-the-Moon

Quote from: Foxilized on November 26, 2014, 07:05:17 PM
Probably because the more incredible, the less powerfull JP is.

Crichton spent thousands of pages trying the dinosaurs were credible.

Now compare that to the idea of a "mutant" dinosaur-terminator with no explanation whatsoever, beyond that "it's genetics, we can do anything".

He did. As a good writer should, but even then there were mistakes.  I don't think much of anyone thought dinosaurs ever had snake tongues.

We don't know that. The movie hasn't been seen yet so you can't say it's not explained to your satisfaction..correct?

Foxilized

Quote from: Blade-of-the-Moon on November 26, 2014, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: Foxilized on November 26, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Doug Watson on November 26, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
I'll never understand the hate the entire Jurassic Park series receives here on a DINO forum.

Maybe cause you don't want to understand.

I'll try to, anyway.

You say we must thank these people for making dinosaurs popular.
Well, what this people is making popular is wrong ideas about dinosaurs.
What is to be thanked?



I'd say one thing here. Just about everyone who has visited our dinosaur park here has mentioned seeing Jurassic Park.  It did wonders for getting people into dinosaurs. Took my interest to a whole new level when I found out about it.  Yes it showcases a lot of incorrect information however that still gets them into dinosaur exhibits and museums where they can learn the truth and even more. I use our JP Raptor replica as a jumping off point when I talk about feathers, wrist orientation, ect..and it works because they recognize the film animal and can imagine what I'm talking about added to it.  For getting people to try and learn more about our prehistoric past , intentional or not, for that I thank them.

Maybe you should have kept reading my entire post.  ;)

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