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Mojo Fun: New for 2018

Started by sauroid, December 09, 2017, 03:29:01 PM

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Stuckasaurus (Dino Dad Reviews)

Hmmm, I'm definitely tempted by that Baryonyx. As RobinGoodFellow points out, it's definitely the closest to the real thing on the market right now. I've simply been substituting Safari's Suchomimus for old Bary' whenever I rearrange my shelf in a way that calls for the latter.


Shonisaurus

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I do not understand paleontology, but honestly regardless of the genius of Mojo's baryonyx, perhaps the best done paleontologically to date according to members of the forum, the two dinosaurs that I like are the giganotosaurus and deinychus despite criticism.

The giganotosaurus Mojo seems superior to the mapusaurus Collecta, the mapusaurus Collecta is missing from my point of view "body" or better said volume (and with that I do not want to offend the followers of the brand Collecta of which I am one of them) .

On the other hand, Mojo's deinonychus seems to me a better figure than Collecta velociraptor. But they are simple appreciations of a profane person in the matter of dinosaurs.

Paleodude

From my perspective the biggest problem I find with the Theropod's this year is they're all seemingly in the same pose as everything else done by Mojo, typical mid stride fare. As a result it seems they've made the feet quite a bit larger than they really should or need be. Also I'll need to see how the pain application fairs with the production as most if not all of the Mojo figures I've found in stores have really sloppy paint.

indominus

Finally, a Baryonyx figure! Normally I would only buy from Papo or Rebor, but I will go out of my way to pick up this creature. I want to erase the memory of the Papo Baryonyx. The bright blue is a little off putting, I would have preferred a more realistic colour scheme, such as Papo's, although an exception can be made. 

SidB

Yes! Glad to hear that there's someone else who heartily hates the Papo bary as much as I do. The Mojo one, in its simplicity and comparative accuracy, just blows the Papo squatting freak out of the water.

indominus

Quote from: SidB on December 20, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Yes! Glad to hear that there's someone else who heartily hates the Papo bary as much as I do. The Mojo one, in its simplicity and comparative accuracy, just blows the Papo squatting freak out of the water.

Agreed. Papo makes some good figures but the Baryonyx is an atrocity. I hope that Mojo continues on with this streak and produces many more figures in the future.

sauroid

i'm confident that Mojo would just get better. it's just a shame that they release very few prehistroic figures each year.
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SidB

Hopefully sales will pickup with the improvements in the product line, which in turn may increase their output.

Sim

Quote from: indominus on December 20, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: SidB on December 20, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Yes! Glad to hear that there's someone else who heartily hates the Papo bary as much as I do. The Mojo one, in its simplicity and comparative accuracy, just blows the Papo squatting freak out of the water.

Agreed. Papo makes some good figures but the Baryonyx is an atrocity. I hope that Mojo continues on with this streak and produces many more figures in the future.

I agree with both of these posts.  I think you put it well, SidB.  I made a post a few months ago where I explained why I dislike the Papo Baryonyx, it's Reply #15 here: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6106.msg180798#msg180798  At the end of that post, I linked to an entertaining video by a Papo fan in which they say why they dislike the Papo Baryonyx.

It looks like the Mojo Baryonyx will be a significantly better representation of the animal than all previous Baryonyx figures.  I'm excited for the Mojo Baryonyx, it's the 2018 figure I'm looking forward to the most!  It's made me interested in seeing what prehistoric figures Mojo will make in the future.

PhilSauria

Been off the grid in New Zealand for the past twelve days so these are all new to me. Just when I thought all of the new releases had been announced these come out of left field. I'll be checking them out, I like the look of the Baryonyx (paint work can always be altered but I'll see how it looks in hand). The way it's going Papo will be the only company without a Giganotosaurus in it's lineup if they don'y add one soon!

Shonisaurus

Quote from: PhilSauria on December 22, 2017, 09:34:04 AM
Been off the grid in New Zealand for the past twelve days so these are all new to me. Just when I thought all of the new releases had been announced these come out of left field. I'll be checking them out, I like the look of the Baryonyx (paint work can always be altered but I'll see how it looks in hand). The way it's going Papo will be the only company without a Giganotosaurus in it's lineup if they don'y add one soon!

It's a pity Papo still has a new giganotosaurus, that's well sculpted not like figures like the plesiosaurus.

On the other hand Collecta unfortunately has not yet made a giganotosaurus either, since the Mapusaurus is another type of Carcharodontosaurus. Not only does Papo need to make a giganotosaurus, Collecta also has that unfinished business unfortunately.

tanystropheus

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Quote from: indominus on December 20, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: SidB on December 20, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Yes! Glad to hear that there's someone else who heartily hates the Papo bary as much as I do. The Mojo one, in its simplicity and comparative accuracy, just blows the Papo squatting freak out of the water.

Agreed. Papo makes some good figures but the Baryonyx is an atrocity. I hope that Mojo continues on with this streak and produces many more figures in the future.

"Atrocity"? Not scientifically accurate as it is rather hulked up and the proportions are wrong but an atrocity it is not. The sculpt itself is second to none, especially the detailing and contouring on the head, the coloration is vibrant (although, a bit more suitable for a crustacean) and the pose is awkward --to be fair a lot of Papo prehistorics have awkward poses, if you happen to pay close attention to their patterns.

There is actually a bimodal distribution regarding the individuals that favor or disfavor the Papo Baryonyx. Most folks that tend to harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the Bary have never held one in hand. DTF members that own the Bary actually quite respect it for what it's worth, inaccuracies and all. Don't get me wrong, it is an inaccurate model, but a colossally impressive inaccurate model.

tyrantqueen

I think the word "atrocity" is a bit hyperbolic for what is essentially a child's toy.

P.S it also has moobs.


Minmiminime

Quote from: tyrantqueen on December 22, 2017, 12:03:09 PM
I think the word "atrocity" is a bit hyperbolic for what is essentially a child's toy.8

P.S it also has moobs.

A lot of Papo dinosaurs seem a little over-developed in that area ;D It a shame they haven't thought to redo the Bary's colours. Even the "rainbow" scheme would possibly suit it better..! Anyway, back to topic. I'm rather fond of this contribution by Mojo, I think it'll look very striking in the dino cabinet
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CityRaptor

Quote from: indominus on December 20, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Agreed. Papo makes some good figures but the Baryonyx is an atrocity. I hope that Mojo continues on with this streak and produces many more figures in the future.

Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

stargatedalek

Honestly, I don't own (but plan to eventually) but having seen it in-hand I can't say it's all that inaccurate. The pectorals yah it shouldn't have those, and the eye-socket is a little shrink-wrapped, but other than that it really doesn't have any objective errors in accuracy.

It doesn't actually have an under-bite, the lower jaw is just thicker at the tip making it look like an under-bite when open. While it's not very likely Baryonyx would have a big lump of flesh on it's lower jaw it's not something we can say objectively that it didn't have.

People are also quick to say that it has teeth on the lower jaw where it shouldn't, but we actually have very little of Baryonyx skull known. The tooth placement of the Papo Baryonyx is still in line with the actual fossils we have just as much as the alternate skull that everyone copy-pastes for their reconstructions without actually looking into how much of it was assumed.




I would argue the Papo Baryonyx is the most accurate extinct animal Papo has made, perhaps tied with the Kaprosuchus (which I do own).

Faelrin

The color scheme, and the pose of the hands (and slightly the head), are what bother me the most about the Papo Baryonyx. I think it might be over sized, although it isn't like all the Papo dinosaurs are in a strict scale either. I'm not too bothered by the awesomebro-ness it has going on, but I do think this new Mojo one seems more like a real animal, vs being a movie monster.
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Fembrogon

These new Mojo figures actually look half decent, in particular the three theropods. I don't think there are many good figures of these genera on the market right now (and I'm always eager for more Giga), so I'll keep watching these.

Shonisaurus

Totally agree with you the three theropods are fantastic. Unfortunately, Diplodocus Mojo is another thing.  :)

Brachiosaurus of the same brand was of higher quality. That diplodocus is honestly not attractive without that means that when you commercialize any online company there will be to buy it.

Sim

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Quote from: tanystropheus on December 22, 2017, 10:06:15 AM
Most folks that tend to harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the Bary have never held one in hand.

I think the only thing this accusation shows is you judge people too much when they disagree with your opinion.  I can tell you I don't "harbor aggressive feelings aimed at the" Papo Baryonyx.  I would like to forget it exists.


Quote from: tanystropheus on December 22, 2017, 10:06:15 AM
DTF members that own the Bary actually quite respect it for what it's worth, inaccuracies and all.

It makes sense that those who buy the Papo Baryonyx are also people who like the figure, and that those who dislike the figure wouldn't buy it.  Due to how incongruous some of its features are, the Papo Baryonyx's worth is quite subjective.  You might like it, while I think it looks like an anthropomorphic (in its pose and other details like having breasts/pecs) Spinosaurus-dragon-kaiju hybrid.


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Quote from: stargatedalek on December 22, 2017, 04:59:37 PM
It doesn't actually have an under-bite, the lower jaw is just thicker at the tip making it look like an under-bite when open. While it's not very likely Baryonyx would have a big lump of flesh on it's lower jaw it's not something we can say objectively that it didn't have.

I think you're misunderstanding.  That the Papo Baryonyx's lower jaw isn't longer than the upper jaw was understood ages ago.  The mistake that can be seen when its mouth is closed, is that the Papo Baryonyx has teeth in the lower jaw that protrude outside the upper jaw instead of being INSIDE of the upper jaw.  This can clearly be seen in the photo of the Papo Baryonyx you posted, and how extensive this is can be seen in photos of the Papo figure with its mouth fully closed.  Compare this (click on the image to enlarge it): https://twitter.com/skeletaldrawing/status/563735786386767872 to the Papo Baryonyx with its mouth closed.


Quote from: stargatedalek on December 22, 2017, 04:59:37 PM
People are also quick to say that it has teeth on the lower jaw where it shouldn't, but we actually have very little of Baryonyx skull known. The tooth placement of the Papo Baryonyx is still in line with the actual fossils we have just as much as the alternate skull that everyone copy-pastes for their reconstructions without actually looking into how much of it was assumed.

After reading this, I have to ask, are you aware that in the image of the skull you posted, the known parts of Baryonyx's skull are the grey parts while the unknown parts are the ones coloured in black?  Because your post is making it sound like you've got them the other way round.  The image you posted shows a lot of Baryonyx's skull is known.  Additionally, alveoli are preserved in known parts of the upper and lower jaws of Baryonyx, so even if some teeth haven't been preserved in those areas and are shown in black, these teeth are still known to an extent with regards to their position and width.  I think it isn't fair for you to say, "People are also quick to say that it has teeth on the lower jaw where it shouldn't".  This suggests they didn't spend enough time to reach that conclusion, which you don't know.  In fact, I spent more than a little time to check that before I pointed out this mistake.  I tend to spend a lot of time checking things before I say them to say things that are correct, and this was no exception.  It's also taken me a lot of time to write thorough replies about mistakes in the Papo Baryonyx, which gets tiring when it's done more than once, and even more tiring when it's to someone who claims it doesn't have inaccuracies others have shown it does have.

When I said the Papo Baryonyx has teeth in its lower jaw where it shouldn't, I was of course referring to known parts of the lower jaw.  I said that some of the large teeth at the front of Baryonyx's lower jaw are missing on the Papo figure, being replaced with a greater number of small teeth instead.  This is correct.  The front of Baryonyx's lower jaw including the tooth arrangement is known, and it is not like what is seen on the Papo figure.  A Baryonyx dentary that shows this can be seen here: http://biostor.org/reference/110558/page/16


Quote from: stargatedalek on December 22, 2017, 04:59:37 PM
Honestly, I don't own (but plan to eventually) but having seen it in-hand I can't say it's all that inaccurate. The pectorals yah it shouldn't have those, and the eye-socket is a little shrink-wrapped, but other than that it really doesn't have any objective errors in accuracy.

In addition to the pecs that I agree with you it shouldn't have, and the inaccurate dentition which I've explained previously in this post, the Papo Baryonyx has nostrils that aren't in the right place, and the front of its upper jaw is much too shallow/flattened.

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