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Mattel, Jurassic World: The Fallen Kingdom toys - new for 2018

Started by Takama, December 23, 2017, 04:21:36 AM

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Dilopho

Quote from: waste_management on July 24, 2018, 02:05:55 AM

I was just wondering, maybe its the thing where the dna sample of the indominus was kept in and the T-rex destroys it like in the movie?

Nah, that was just a little tube.


MLMjp

Apparently Mathew Brando thinks the "collectors line" of six-inch scale figures is a bad idea and that it can cause of the death of the Jurassic Park/World toys again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I93kf8g-fes

Personaly I don't care about those figures but I think he's over-reacting a bit. It is not like those figures will replace the regular line.

CityRaptor

So is this Dio Brando guy some sort of authority or expert? Nope! So yeah, he is just some guy spreading panic. I mean neither are the 6 inch figures meant to replace the regular line, nor are they even meant to interact with eachother. They are their own line, so none of his feared scale issues should occur. Besides it's also hypocrisy on his part that he shows two differently scaled human figures at the beginning and thinks this is okay. Not to mention that he apparently thinks that the G.I. Joe guy from the Allosaurus set was made by Kenner.
Jurassic Park is frightning in the dark
All the dinosaurs are running wild
Someone let T. Rex out of his pen
I'm afraid those things'll harm me
'Cause they sure don't act like Barney
And they think that I'm their dinner, not their friend
Oh no

MLMjp

Quote from: CityRaptor on July 24, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
So is this Dio Brando guy some sort of authority or expert? Nope! So yeah, he is just some guy spreading panic. I mean neither are the 6 inch figures meant to replace the regular line, nor are they even meant to interact with eachother. They are their own line, so none of his feared scale issues should occur. Besides it's also hypocrisy on his part that he shows two differently scaled human figures at the beginning and thinks this is okay. Not to mention that he apparently thinks that the G.I. Joe guy from the Allosaurus set was made by Kenner.

You could say yes, heck you could even say he was the one that star the anti-Hasbro movement back when Hasbro made the Jurassic World toys. A lot of Jurassic park toy collectors know about him and thank him for opening their eyes about how crappy the Jurassic World toys were. avatar_Victoria's Cantina @Victoria B has talked to him several times and she probably can explain things better than me.

Primeval12

I'm honestly just happy that I can scale up these figures to my Primeval toys :O

Quote from: MLMjp on July 24, 2018, 03:28:55 PM
Apparently Mathew Brando thinks the "collectors line" of six-inch scale figures is a bad idea and that it can cause of the death of the Jurassic Park/World toys again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I93kf8g-fes

Personaly I don't care about those figures but I think he's over-reacting a bit. It is not like those figures will replace the regular line.

Gwangi

Brando is legit, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss his fears. He was a shining light during the Hasbro years. And, he makes some great points in this video. I watched it, wondering myself what the problem was, but I don't generally collect action figures so I wasn't "in the know". By the end of the video I felt his fears were legitimate and I totally agree that play sets are preferable to a collector line. It makes little difference to me, I collect dinosaurs. Not play sets, not action figures. As long as they keep pumping out quality dinosaurs then I'll be happy. But what about the children? THE CHILDREN! They certainly deserve some awesome play sets and those should take priority I think.

Dilopho

A line of 6 Inch figures would be nice. I don't think they'd take prominence though.

You know what would be nice? Repaints based on Jurassic World Evolution.

There's many, many gooorgeous skins in that game.
(And I'm still holding out for a retool of the Velociraptor that makes it a Deinonychus  O:-) )
Side Note:

These Acrocanthosaurus skins from Warpath....do you think Papo based their Acro's color schemes on the first two?

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Loon

I wouldn't dismiss Brando either, he made some good points by showing what happened to the 3.75 inch Star Wars stuff after 6" took the lead. However, I do think he's overreacting, because the dinosaurs are an important part of the play of these and I just can't see Mattel doing those in six inch scale. The only thing that makes me worry about that is the way Mattel referred to these as "collector" figures, which is a very Hasbro mindset. I pray that doesn't mean 5 poa humans and non-articulated Dinosaurs for the 3 inch line, but who knows?

tanystropheus

#1548
The Indoraptor stands to benefit the most from a "collectors line."

Switching scales early in the game has collapsed lines (e.g. Bandai's ThunderCats), but this is in 2019 after the introduction of 16 additional species and a near complete product line. This might not have as big of a (negative) effect as one would imagine. Hopefully, before they switch scales, Mamenchi and Indominus Rex are already released.

Faelrin

Honestly as long as they continue to keep up the quality control of this year's line going forward, I won't be too terribly concerned about them having a 6 inch collector's assortment. Right now it seems they are keeping it small and clearly focusing on the main line for 2019. They said those 6 inch figures won't be out till late next year anyways. By that point I hope my film species collection will be complete, not that I wouldn't be interested in or concerned what happens after, but I will have my dream JP collection achieved by then (hopefully).


Moving on, I updated my film species collection list, and I only have a few left at this point for this year's assortment. I really only need the Roarivores Pteranodon and Sinoceratops (even though the sculpt is a Pachyrhinosaurus, it has the color scheme, and branding of the creature in the film, which will suffice for me for now), and the Legacy Dilophosaurus, Spinosaurus, and Gallimimus. I also plan on picking up the Legacy JPIII Velociraptor and JW Pteranodon (to go with the Legacy JPIII one), which would complete the film's variety for those creatures (mostly). I also need some Compsognathus, and I plan to get the Imaginext pair first, though I might end up with the Legacy ones and possibly the Destructasaur ones if I choose to get any of the things they come with going forward.

Edit: I'll probably try to pick up the Thrash and Throw Tyrannosaurus (for the better scale, and electronic feature), and Grab and Growl Indoraptor too (better head sculpt, electronic feature, maybe better scale too?).



The Brachiosaurus in 2019 will be my first priority the moment it is released, although I am seriously hoping for Parasaurolophus and Indominus rex as well. That would only leave Apatosaurus, Corythosaurus, and Mamenchisaurus left (which might not end up with toys, but it's nothing I couldn't live without). A green Tyrannosaurus resembling the one in TLW or JPIII would be an important addition for the film's variety (like with the different Velociraptors and Pteranodons), if they end up making one. If not  there's always the highly sought after Kenner Bull Tyrannosaurus I guess.

Anyways here's how my assortment is looking so far, minus the Mosasaurus which is on my bed (I'll have more close up pics in my collection thread):

Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

tanystropheus

#1550
Are you picking up the Suchomimus or only dinosaurs that have been featured in the films?

MLMjp

Quote from: Faelrin on July 24, 2018, 09:06:38 PM
Edit: I'll probably try to pick up the Thrash and Throw Tyrannosaurus (for the better scale, and electronic feature), and Grab and Growl Indoraptor too (better head sculpt, electronic feature, maybe better scale too?).

The Brachiosaurus in 2019 will be my first priority the moment it is released, although I am seriously hoping for Parasaurolophus and Indominus rex as well. That would only leave Apatosaurus, Corythosaurus, and Mamenchisaurus left (which might not end up with toys, but it's nothing I couldn't live without). A green Tyrannosaurus resembling the one in TLW or JPIII would be an important addition for the film's variety (like with the different Velociraptors and Pteranodons), if they end up making one. If not there's always the highly sought after Kenner Bull Tyrannosaurus I guess.

Amen to that. Also back when the toys were announced in New York toy fair there were images where you could see both Indoraptors together, and they both looked the same size.

This is weird. Remember when I talked about the Spinosaurus having a loose right leg? Well, it seems it depends on the pose.

It´s like the stiffness of the legs changes depending to which side of the locking point you move it, if you move the leg forward passing the locking point, it is stiff and it can hold the pose perfectly, but if you move the leg backwards passing the locking point, it becomes loose and can't hold an upright pose.

Digibasherx

Quote from: MLMjp on July 24, 2018, 03:28:55 PM
Apparently Mathew Brando thinks the "collectors line" of six-inch scale figures is a bad idea and that it can cause of the death of the Jurassic Park/World toys again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I93kf8g-fes

Personaly I don't care about those figures but I think he's over-reacting a bit. It is not like those figures will replace the regular line.

I like that 6 inch line, matches up with the MotM line.  But really, not everyone can afford higher tier toys, and I'm sure some parents can't dish out premium price for the larger size.  So I don't get the hate for different size/price point of the same toy.


Faelrin

Quote from: tanystropheus on July 24, 2018, 09:40:35 PM
Are you picking up the Suchomimus or only dinosaurs that have been featured in the films?

My main focus is on the film's creatures, but I'm not going to miss the opportunity to pick up some fabulous toys of the other non film species they are making. I already have the Attack Pack Herrerasaurus (with the game color scheme), and I plan to pick up the Suchomimus, Protoceratops, and Minmi from this year's assortment. I am definitely looking forward to the Amargasaurus and Styracosaurus of next year as well. Possibly more if I'm interested in anything else they might make for next year's line.

Edit: I forgot to mention the Destructasaur Dimetrodon (assuming it comes with the Microceratus, though even if it doesn't I'll probably get the blue Velociraptor set which does come with it).

avatar_MLMjp @MLMjp Good to know about the G@G Indoraptor's size. I forgot about it being at Toy Fair.
Film Accurate Mattel JW and JP toys list (incl. extended canon species, etc):
http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Every Single Mainline Mattel Jurassic World Species A-Z; 2025 toys added!:
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9974.0

Most produced Paleozoic genera (visual encyclopedia):
https://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=9144.0

ibijuro

Perhaps I missed it, but I'm surprised how little complaint I've seen about how bizarrely boxy the Allosaurus's head looks.
Is it just a limited batch?

Extremely dissappointing considering it's a favorite by so many.

ALL my therapods fall down from flimsy legs (except rex).
If only i could get floor polish in to toghten them up...

(Gosh I just realized for all the reading I do here, I'd almost never posted!)

tanystropheus

Quote from: ibijuro on July 25, 2018, 11:59:29 AM
Perhaps I missed it, but I'm surprised how little complaint I've seen about how bizarrely boxy the Allosaurus's head looks.
Is it just a limited batch?

Extremely dissappointing considering it's a favorite by so many.

ALL my therapods fall down from flimsy legs (except rex).
If only i could get floor polish in to toghten them up...

(Gosh I just realized for all the reading I do here, I'd almost never posted!)

Yeah, the Allosaurus looks really weird to me so I never bothered picking it up. It's also got a messed up jawline. It's a shame since it is depicted quite frequently in the new film.

I hope they reissue it or release a better quality Allosaurus product for their premium line.

Dilopho

For me, it at least gives it a distinct look. It does look a little too boxy, though.

yankeetrex

Brando likes to think that he is the reason Mattel and Universal came together when they took the license away from Hasbro.  He went on a whole twitter tirade saying that for all he has done any they havent sent him a single figure to review for Free.  For all you have done? I mean honestly, come on bro, were you there sitting in facilitating the meetings?  A few youtube videos does not make you the reason they decided to go with Mattel.  There really are only 2 large toy companies. Not that hard to say, well, lets give Mattel a try.

As far as the 6 inch line goes, this is a collector line, we probably would get at most 3-6 figs a year.  Probably in a Matty Collector situation like Ghosbusters had all those years ago.  There wont be any kind of line loss.  I doubt these will even be sold in stores.  Probably available only thought their website. I have been invited to sit in on the second collector focus group Mattel will have about this line and will share these concerns if people think its necessary, but I doubt this will be an issue like it has become for star wars.

Digibasherx

Quote from: tanystropheus on July 25, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Yeah, the Allosaurus looks really weird to me so I never bothered picking it up. It's also got a messed up jawline. It's a shame since it is depicted quite frequently in the new film.

Was it in more than the volcano scene?  Was it in later scenes?

Jose S.M.

Quote from: Digibasherx on July 25, 2018, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: tanystropheus on July 25, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Yeah, the Allosaurus looks really weird to me so I never bothered picking it up. It's also got a messed up jawline. It's a shame since it is depicted quite frequently in the new film.

Was it in more than the volcano scene?  Was it in later scenes?

Yes,
Spoiler
a juvenile was sold after the Ankylosaurus during the auction scene and one can be seen later when all of the dinosaurs are trapped in the room with the gas
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